"Please wait" and then "Your dead"

[~TT~ 1]

so been alive for about 5 days and had good runs looting 2 air bases, wanted to continue my adventure today & joined a half full server, fully geared with m4,  plenty of ammo, mosin on hand and a good amount of food.

 

closed the game previously inside a barn behind a house near the airbase, double clicked the server to join and it goes "Please wait" after about 10 seconds it changed to "Your dead".

 

then i hear a guy wacking an axe on me..so pretty much i have been live since "Please wait" status which was on for 10-15 seconds, some random has axed me while i was still loading to the server, felt soo shit like i wasted 4 days of my time for nothing. why the f does it take soo long in "please wait" status and why does the player go live during that time ? why cant it be "Waiting for host" then instantly spawn like before the recent patches were done??.. or having the player not going live until the "Please wait" is done :unsure:

Edited May 14, 2014 by ~TT~

[zombiewarpig 40]

That was just bad luck and/or a bad place to spawn. I myself stand in a bush far from anything important and haven't been in danger when joining.

[AlphaDogMeat . 493]

Let me be the first to console you on your loss...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bwahahaha.

 

Rule (insert number here) of DayZ SA:  Don't get attached to your gear/character.

[dayy 173]

Thats why you should log in the forest... I always do, been alive for 4 weeks, stopping illegals from entering Elektro

[emigrates 261]

Fully kitted out.. 4 Days of work

Keeping an M4 and a Mosin on one character.. Lots of avoiding ladders, contact and eating

Getting axed to death for logging out in a high pop area... priceless

 

For everything else, there's the treeline.

[Exorade 214]

Good.

 

 

 fully geared with m4

 

<_<

[Grimey Rick 3417]

Great community we have here, eh?

@OP: It's definitely ridiculous your character loads while we're staring at a blank screen completely oblivious to what's happening to us. It needs addressed.

ITT:

Guy reports blatant bug. Is laughed at.

[emigrates 261]

Great community we have here, eh?

@OP: It's definitely ridiculous your character loads while we're staring at a blank screen completely oblivious to what's happening to us. It needs addressed.

ITT:

Guy reports blatant bug. Is laughed at.

Game loading = bug?

 

I'm sorry not everything is spontaneous. Some things do take time, such as rendering and loading.

[lauda 44]

I see one person that understands what TT is talking about. Not too bad for this forum.

Maybe he should take emigrates advice and ask the treeline next time he has a problem. The treeline will not understand anything aswell, but at least there won´t be a stupid comment.

[okami (DayZ) 129]

Totally agree with rick grimey. Yes, it was not the best thing to log out near a high pop area. BUT it adresses problem which has every right to be adressed, at least this is what i thought this forums where made for.

 

It was a problem in the mod and it still is in the standalone (it has much improved but it is still there) that you are present in the games world before you can see and act. And this can be adressed to and sorted out by the developers.

 

No need for all the negativity.

[Phoenix777 43]

I actually tested this out last night. I was with a patient when the server restarted, he rejoined a server in his area (Australia) first, and i joined a little bit afterwards. When "please wait" came up, I asked him if he could see me, he said no. It lasted for at least a good minute or two since his server had 200 ping for me, and it wasn't until like 5 seconds before I spawned that he said that he saw me.

I just wanted clarify that, because I know that I was always freaking out when I was joining laggy servers and it felt like I was a sitting duck for several minutes. It sucks that you can't do anything but I just imagine it'd be a lot more buggy or immersion breaking if they made you invisible or invincible for the first 10 seconds you're on the server.

Edited May 14, 2014 by Phoenix777

[emigrates 261]

The problem is, games load and render. It's nothing new, it just happens. Hell, if even if he didn't have "Please wait" then the person who attacked him might have killed him in the 3 minutes it takes to render the game once you can see anyway. Just deal with it, don't log out in silly areas. Even if a survival game this would be a completely inappropriate place to log out. 

 

What you're asking for it, you want everything to be there the moment the Press connect. Sorry folks, it doesn't work like that.

[MagneticToast 102]

Great community we have here, eh?

@OP: It's definitely ridiculous your character loads while we're staring at a blank screen completely oblivious to what's happening to us. It needs addressed.

ITT:

Guy reports blatant bug. Is laughed at.

Yup been saying this since day 1. people have a problem with it being fixed for some reason.

[lmstr 11]

Maybe I'm just lame, but if I forget where I logged out cause I haven't played for a week - I always login on a low pop server to get my bearings then server hop to a high pop server once I know where I am and find a safe spot to relog.

[lauda 44]

I was always freaking out when I was joining laggy servers

 

Seems like i have that long "Please wait" period every time i change the server (same hive), except i´ve closed the game completely. So i would not say it has much to do with lag.

It´s a little funny because the penalty got changed to 100 seconds and as a replacement for the reduced 500 seconds we now have "Please wait" B)

Edited May 14, 2014 by lauda

[gearjammer 97]

I've always wondered if that was the case because I can hear sound while I am at the "please wait" screen. One time I even heard people speaking and thought for sure I would be a goner. Now I always crawl inside a pine tree to log out.

[xalienax 621]

The problem is, games load and render. It's nothing new, it just happens. Hell, if even if he didn't have "Please wait" then the person who attacked him might have killed him in the 3 minutes it takes to render the game once you can see anyway. Just deal with it, don't log out in silly areas. Even if a survival game this would be a completely inappropriate place to log out. 

 

What you're asking for it, you want everything to be there the moment the Press connect. Sorry folks, it doesn't work like that.

No he just doesnt want the player model created in the world untill AFTER the client has compleeted loading and you have control of your char.

[Grimey Rick 3417]

I actually tested this out last night. I was with a patient when the server restarted, he rejoined a server in his area (Australia) first, and i joined a little bit afterwards. When "please wait" came up, I asked him if he could see me, he said no. It lasted for at least a good minute or two since his server had 200 ping for me, and it wasn't until like 5 seconds before I spawned that he said that he saw me.

I just wanted clarify that, because I know that I was always freaking out when I was joining laggy servers and it felt like I was a sitting duck for several minutes. It sucks that you can't do anything but I just imagine it'd be a lot more buggy or immersion breaking if they made you invisible or invincible for the first 10 seconds you're on the server.

Good information, however, to me it proves there are varying degrees of this problem. My friend and I were playing on a full server which suddenly restarted as we were in the NWAF ATC. No big deal, we'll just reconnect. He gets right in, no issue. I, however, am stuck at "Please wait..." for literally a full minute. I can hear the environment and my friend walking around. I asked him if he could see me, to which he answered "lel yep gonna rob ur ass xD".

So yeah, this is a big issue that needs to be addressed at some point. I don't understand the mentality of people saying "lol log out somewhere safe noob", as this can just as easily happen to you for entirely different reasons. Why people would argue for a fix to a game they play is beyond me.

EDIT: My computer is leaps and bounds better than my friend's, so I'm fairly certain this isn't a rendering issue. I feel as if it's a latency issue.

Edited May 14, 2014 by Grimey Rick

[irl-calibre 744]

interesting article about tears.. I think people should examine them under a microscope to understand better the emotion caused by a death in a fantasy..

 

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-microscopic-structures-of-dried-human-tears-180947766/?no-ist

[real meatshield 424]

Rick I doubt its latency, because it happens to me more often that not on my own server, which I ping <15ms regularly.

 

Also agree that it ought not be rendering, as I am also well-endowed in the hardware arena as well.

 

Someone stated above something to the effect that it's paybacks on the other side of the login timer since it was reduced; I am almost tempted to agree with that because it sure feels like it. Last month, 300 sec timer, but then you load right in... this month, 60 sec timer but then you wait 240 sec. at "please wait" while your character is already in the world.

[Irish. 4886]

so been alive for about 5 days and had good runs looting 2 air bases, wanted to continue my adventure today & joined a half full server, fully geared with m4,  plenty of ammo, mosin on hand and a good amount of food.

 

closed the game previously inside a barn behind a house near the airbase, double clicked the server to join and it goes "Please wait" after about 10 seconds it changed to "Your dead".

 

then i hear a guy wacking an axe on me..so pretty much i have been live since "Please wait" status which was on for 10-15 seconds, some random has axed me while i was still loading to the server, felt soo shit like i wasted 4 days of my time for nothing. why the f does it take soo long in "please wait" status and why does the player go live during that time ? why cant it be "Waiting for host" then instantly spawn like before the recent patches were done??.. or having the player not going live until the "Please wait" is done :unsure:

 

I feel bad for you man, really I do.. but at least you learned that you should never log out in a place like that. Ever.

 

The logging in process is often long, and usually your player is just sitting there in game the entire time. Sometimes the server restart or a random disconnect will leave you in horrible log-in locations. The only way around this is find an empty server, log-in, move to safer location then find good server. 

[oanj 28]

The problem is, games load and render. It's nothing new, it just happens. Hell, if even if he didn't have "Please wait" then the person who attacked him might have killed him in the 3 minutes it takes to render the game once you can see anyway. Just deal with it, don't log out in silly areas. Even if a survival game this would be a completely inappropriate place to log out. 

 

What you're asking for it, you want everything to be there the moment the Press connect. Sorry folks, it doesn't work like that

What a suprise another person on a forum pretending to be a programming god...

He just doesnt want the player model created in the world untill after the game client has completed loading and you have control of your character. Think before you post.

[emigrates 261]

What a suprise another person on a forum pretending to be a programming god...

He just doesnt want the player model created in the world untill after the game client has completed loading and you have control of your character. Think before you post.

When did I mention anything about programming? I haven't the first clue and never stated it. I'm basing my "It's a game, they need to load" on years of experience. Load up anything, you'll notice it will load while it generates the surroundings. But yeah, what a surprise another person on a forum who can't read.

[Death By Crowbar 1213]

The "Please wait..." delay on loading is something I've run into a lot lately, and seems prevalent on some servers and not others. I'm not sure if it's due to network, server load, population count, etc - but sometimes I've experienced it on "Please wait..." for up to 10 minutes (or more), and when I hit escape to bring up the menu I can see where I spawned and some of the world but it's as if the world is stuck not actually loading for some reason yet I believe it's possible you might be spawned in at that point. I always have to hit escape, choose Exit, and then try another server when that happens.

 

So two thoughts:

1. You're dealing what appears to be a bug, I get the same thing from time to time. It seems rather new, it only started in the past maybe 2 weeks for me.
2. Take greater care in where you camp. You took great care on those gear runs from the sounds of it possibly on low pop servers, but if you're going to spawn into a high pop server you've gotta take great care to do so where you're almost assuredly alone and not where zeds can get you. The main reason is due to what you experienced.

Looks like this bug has been reported, be sure to chime in with any details you have and also vote it up so hopefully it's addressed sooner rather than later.

http://feedback.dayzgame.com/view.php?id=8257

[xX_fr0st-w0lf_Xx (DayZ) 343]

OP just deal with it.

 

Just like we have to deal with desync, and broken zeds, and hackers, and pressing hotbar keys 7 times....

 

Don't you dare mention your issues to the community, they will tear you a new one.