Martmital 436 Posted April 10, 2014 yeah, totally bullshit, on a post soviet country we should be swimming in p90's and honey badgers with tactical combat extra field resistant picatinny rails and p2000s, with our l33t l96a1 rifles and a corvette driving around. 'murica people... Why would the yanks want a british rifle? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathlove 2286 Posted April 10, 2014 Why would the yanks want a british rifle?Idk the same reason id want one of your WW1 trench helms or knifes. Or maybe one of those WW2 African helmets the British used. See what i did there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martmital 436 Posted April 10, 2014 Idk the same reason id want one of your WW1 trench helms or knifes. Or maybe one of those WW2 African helmets the British used. See what i did there? So you want em cuz they look cool? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathlove 2286 Posted April 10, 2014 So you want em cuz they look cool?That and there more unique than probably over in Great Britain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martmital 436 Posted April 10, 2014 That and there more unique than probably over in Great Britain. Even in Good ol' Blightly they would be considered rare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted April 10, 2014 Why would the yanks want a british rifle? I wouldn't mind this british rifle. L1a1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terminal_boy 860 Posted April 10, 2014 About as British as Coca-Cola... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meekalew 44 Posted April 10, 2014 i feel like the more they release about dayz its slowly turning from a modern zombie survival game to a caveman zombie survival game well bows? there will be technical bows and crossbows so lets call it ok i agree with the idea that gathering rocks and woods (sound familiar?) is an important aspect of surviving but i just cant stop thinking about it dayz is loosing its modern-ness and morphing into a caveman game.. I can guarantee you, if the zombie apocalypse were really happening; I would choose a crossbow or a bow over a gun as a primary weapon of choice. No matter how silenced you think a silencer can silence a modern weapon, none are as silent as a crossbow or a bow. If you're in a world where zombies and potential enemies are hiding around every corner and getting from place to place quietly and alive counts, you want silence. The first bullet you fire would alert zombies to your direction, the second would send any nearby zombies coming for you from all directions. It's a part of the realistic simulation, where the smart people who want to survive would carry guns but only rely on them as a last resort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
napalmdog 71 Posted April 10, 2014 Now from your post i dont really get what your saying but it sure seems like your insulting Americans. I dont really appreciate that sir and/or ma'am.I'm American and guns are as American as apple pie, if you hadn't been paying attention. Or at least that's what's implied, not by Lipemr but the guy walking down the sidewalk with an AR-15 over his shoulder because it's his God-given right as an AMERICAN! Sorry, off-topic rant on my end over. Just had to say it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murlough 192 Posted April 10, 2014 I'm American and guns are as American as apple pie, if you hadn't been paying attention. Or at least that's what's implied, not by Lipemr but the guy walking down the sidewalk with an AR-15 over his shoulder because it's his God-given right as an AMERICAN!Sorry, off-topic rant on my end over. Just had to say it... .........Wtf does that have to do with anything? I never said jack shit against guns either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daemonkid 493 Posted April 10, 2014 Guns are far more commonly owned than bows. I would argue especially in Chernarus seeing as it is based off of Czechoslovakia (a country who's third most popular and widespread sport is sport shooting which uses firearms).Czechoslovakia hasn't existed for quite a while Wolf.It's Czech Republic now. ;P 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimey Rick 3417 Posted April 10, 2014 i feel like the more they release about dayz its slowly turning from a modern zombie survival game to a caveman zombie survival game well bows? there will be technical bows and crossbows so lets call it ok i agree with the idea that gathering rocks and woods (sound familiar?) is an important aspect of surviving but i just cant stop thinking about it dayz is loosing its modern-ness and morphing into a caveman game.. Because post-apocalypse, the world would obviously maintain, no, improve its level of technology, right? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036 Posted April 10, 2014 Because post-apocalypse, the world would obviously maintain, no, improve its level of technology, right?Well you know by reading the "Modern Science and Mechanic" magazine turns you into a rocket scientist. Didn't you know that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted April 10, 2014 About as British as Coca-Cola... How so was it not a former British service rifle ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipemr 160 Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Right, because that's what I said. I wasn't referring to what the OP was articulating, meaning stoves and such /sarcasm And your blind prejudice against my nationality is adorable! Do they make more of your kind? well, you wanted fully railed FALs and G3s on the other thread, you implied your rail tacticool fetish there. Now from your post i dont really get what your saying but it sure seems like your insulting Americans. I dont really appreciate that sir and/or ma'am. Nothing against north american people, i'm against "murica" people, if you know what i mean. That people that dream with an AR15 with 25 attachments glued to it, "cause dayum, when SHTF i would need that, i would be tactical" Edited April 10, 2014 by lipemr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipemr 160 Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Again... FN FNX used by nobody outside of a few LE organizations in Belgium and the US (who use the FNP, not the newer FNX). Relatively rare in the civilian market. In the game. 1911, rendered as a modified Kimber Warrior, used by nobody. Insanely expensive and rare in the civilian world. Or, if you use your imagination, it resembles the M45A1 used solely by "tacticool" operators in MARSOC/FORECON. In the game. Amphibia S, highly regulated and expensive single-make modification for the Ruger Mk II only used by SEALs. In the game. How are these things not obscure again?Pistols are another entire different story, They needed a generic model for a .45 pistol, there's no more generic pistol than the FNX, same with the amphibia, they needed a silenced .22 pistol, they're not common anywhere outside america, heck, they're rare even in america. So they put in the amphibia S, modified version of the well known ruger mk2.And no one cares if it's a "kimber" or a "dogshit2000" 1911, it's a 1911, dont matter if they added the most common one or the most rare one, they're all the same. Pistols always have a irrelevant place in your inventory anyway, as they all function exactly the same. Rifles on the other side, have a much more relevant part on the gameplay. If you see someone with a pimped out FNX,you're going to tell yourself "oh, look at that pimped out pistol", if you find someone with a pimped out m249 SAW ACOG, that's another story. Edited April 10, 2014 by lipemr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
napalmdog 71 Posted April 10, 2014 .........Wtf does that have to do with anything? I never said jack shit against guns either.I'm sorry if it was otherwise, I'm now just left wondering what insult to America you're ascertaining from lipemr's post... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katana67 2907 Posted April 10, 2014 Pistols are another entire different story, They needed a generic model for a .45 pistol, there's no more generic pistol than the FNX, same with the amphibia, they needed a silenced .22 pistol, they're not common anywhere outside america, heck, they're rare even in america. So they put in the amphibia S, modified version of the well known ruger mk2.And no one cares if it's a "kimber" or a "dogshit2000" 1911, it's a 1911, dont matter if they added the most common one or the most rare one, they're all the same. Pistols always have a irrelevant place in your inventory anyway, as they all function exactly the same. Rifles on the other side, have a much more relevant part on the gameplay. If you see someone with a pimped out FNX,you're going to tell yourself "oh, look at that pimped out pistol", if you find someone with a pimped out m249 SAW ACOG, that's another story. So pistols aren't subject to your "tacticool" racism? The contradictions in your logic are hilarious (i.e. a modified Mk II is totally fine, but a slightly modified G3 is "tacticool"). Done with you. Priceless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windex 13 Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) eh, I'm not so sure about the bows comment. While they exist everywhere, I think guns are almost always more prevalent, especially after a military standoff with an army of infected. Couple that with the portability of bullets, and guns have a real reason to exist in a Zed world. They do, but that doesn't mean they'll grow on trees, or that the ammo will. Case in point, look how many people here have never so much as touched a real firearm. A lot of people are like that, and they won't have the faintest idea where to find a weapon or what to put in it during a zombie apocalypse. Making a bow is not all that hard. It's a legit survival skill even in a modern setting. I don't really see what the OP is griping about. There have been a number of times I've had to use much more primitive skills IRL than are available in-game. All we're doing right now is running around looking for cans of beans. Edited April 10, 2014 by Windex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pillock 850 Posted April 10, 2014 Making a bow is not all that hard. It's a legit survival skill even in a modern setting. Really? I've never tried, but I would expect it to be pretty difficult. An effective, deadly weapon to be used against large or fast moving animals or people? Using materials you've scavenged and gathered yourself? I'd expect there to be quite a lot of fairly shit prototypes before you manage to make something you could rely on. And then you've got to practice using it. The reason firearms replaced bows and arrows in warfare was that they were easier to manufacture and use, wasn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DedicateDdos 50 Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Really? I've never tried, but I would expect it to be pretty difficult. Not that difficult I made both crossbow and bow myself many years ago, and those worked pretty well. Eventually my parents took away most of it when we started making pointy arrows but it's really not -that- hard.edit: the bow was based of an SAS survival guide, the crossbow was made using a cycling flag pole (flexible plastic stick) cut in three and taped together and a wooden base. I understand that people like guns and eastern european countries are loaded with those (seriously why would anyone living in a crappy wooden shed spend their money on guns is beyond me though) but let's just assume everyone and most of their guns took of to safer places and those washing up ashore just need to make due with what's left. I'd love to see more decay on weapons though. Edited April 10, 2014 by DedicateDdos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gannon46 788 Posted April 10, 2014 1. Apocalypse happens2. society crumbles apart3. manufacturing of all items ceases, no food is farmed, medicine is rare as is every other manufactured item4. People have to rely on older methods of doing things.5. things wear down from use and parts must be replaced but parts are rare.6. without experts with the knowledge to do things, even basic farming is beyond most people - how many people even know how to skin an animal? Who's going to know how to make parts for machinery.7. slowly over time things devolve until humans can get together in large enough numbers again to have the necessary skill, knowledge and labour force to put things back on track. Of course things are going to go backwards unless you're saying zombies are going to work serving me burgers? "Oh sorry sir, I think my ear fell in your chips"how does number 7 happen when everyone just kills each other. how can one get any skills or gain any survivors for a group when all that happens is survivors killing other survivors.maybe when base building gets added or helis and I'm sure they won't be filled with killers flying the coast machine gunning everything. a scene from platoon comes to mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellcat420 212 Posted April 10, 2014 i feel like the more they release about dayz its slowly turning from a modern zombie survival game to a caveman zombie survival game well bows? there will be technical bows and crossbows so lets call it ok i agree with the idea that gathering rocks and woods (sound familiar?) is an important aspect of surviving but i just cant stop thinking about it dayz is loosing its modern-ness and morphing into a caveman game.. and that is what would really happen. learn human history noob. there are many examples in the past of what happens when civilization collapses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipemr 160 Posted April 10, 2014 So pistols aren't subject to your "tacticool" racism? The contradictions in your logic are hilarious (i.e. a modified Mk II is totally fine, but a slightly modified G3 is "tacticool"). Done with you. Priceless. rage as much as you want, redneck, it doesnt change anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murlough 192 Posted April 11, 2014 I'm sorry if it was otherwise, I'm now just left wondering what insult to America you're ascertaining from lipemr's post... Erm, well... looking back at his post now i cant remember xD. Well i suppose ill just apologize and move along. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites