captainvette2112 84 Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) If they are going to making everyone roll around with a fireaxe locked and loaded 100% of the time because their "new and improved" dumb ass broken AI zombies agro you from 2000 yards away and can walk through walls to get you..... the least they could do is put some damn LOOT on them. Its not like they are really any more dangerous or exciting. You can kill 5 at a time walking backwards with a fire axe, you can still outrun them if you shoulder your weapon and run with your fists up, you just cant really easily avoid them anymore. So the devs made zeds slightly more annoying. You know what they call annoyances in MMOs? Time sinks. But time sinks usually have some reward. So how about it? Come on devs.. we know you are incapable of fixing your broken AI and your goal seems to be to make them more annoying so why not throws us the slightest bone and make them lootable. I mean I know you guys are working on some really important end game content like spray painting guns and new skins for the soda cans but maybe you can find some time for this Edited April 3, 2014 by captainvette2112 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bozey 34 Posted April 3, 2014 But if you axe/shoot them to death, wouldn't that mean you will get ruined items anyway?IF they would add loot to the zeds 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beck (DayZ) 1768 Posted April 3, 2014 You have a point to this post, but the way it is written is pretty hostile. If you actually want people (the devs) to take you seriously, you should think twice before posting. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inception. 9443 Posted April 3, 2014 You have a point to this post, but the way it is written is pretty hostile. If you actually want people (the devs) to take you seriously, you should think twice before posting. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captainvette2112 84 Posted April 3, 2014 You have a point to this post, but the way it is written is pretty hostile. If you actually want people (the devs) to take you seriously, you should think twice before posting. The truth hurts I guess. 2+ years of work and what? A new inventory system, new skins, and item decay? OHHH and maybe sometime this month we will get a working fireplace... come on. They might as well take the zombies out of the game altogether and replace them with invisible dust clouds which serve absolutely no purpose other than to be annoying by randomly doing damage to players. That way at least people will stop bitching about the broken AI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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soulfirez 901 Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) The truth hurts I guess. 2+ years of work and what? A new inventory system, new skins, and item decay? OHHH and maybe sometime this month we will get a working fireplace... come on. They might as well take the zombies out of the game altogether and replace them with invisible dust clouds which serve absolutely no purpose other than to be annoying by randomly doing damage to players. That way at least people will stop bitching about the broken AI Buys alpha game and complains about alpha state of the game oh my you have so much WIN in your life dont you .... ( but hey one day i do hope they put loot on zeds even if it gets ruined when i axe or shoot them it will give you a chance of getting something good for kill and it will make them seem like they were once human ,id actually like some to have a backpack like in BP (i would only make it the lowest level craftable backpack and never put anything of great value in them at best a lucky clip for a pistol etc.. Edited April 3, 2014 by SoulFirez 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
odin_lowe 3686 Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) The truth hurts I guess. 2+ years of work and what? A new inventory system, new skins, and item decay? OHHH and maybe sometime this month we will get a working fireplace... come on. They might as well take the zombies out of the game altogether and replace them with invisible dust clouds which serve absolutely no purpose other than to be annoying by randomly doing damage to players. That way at least people will stop bitching about the broken AI ...or go make your own game... Seriously, learn how video games are made. What the devs are doing and how much what you say here won't change how the guys who made Cabela Hunting, who are now dealing with the AI of zeds and animals. People shouldn't get access to Alphas/Betas. Ten years ago, when I use to beta test in closed community, we never saw these types of threads on the limited access forums... Edit: In before thread closes. Of course I'd like to see loot on zombies. Themed items like ammo on a military zombie, bandages on zombie medic, etc. But right now they won't add anything of such... We're in ALPHA, there's no broken AI, there's no AI at all.... It's like a newborn who doesn't know how to walk. It learns. The devs will polish and add more code to create the AI. Be prepared to see MORE bugs as the AI becomes more developed. Then, they'll fix more bugs till it gets better, to the point where it's stable. Edited April 3, 2014 by Odin Lowe 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Etherious 907 Posted April 3, 2014 To me you seem like every other imprudent being out there that can't process what it means to develop a game and yet when you hear something that intrigues you such as DayZ you jump the gun, ESPECIALLY knowing that it's a early stage game yet you expect a full fledged Diablo 3 or Fallout 3 game outta it. Y'all just need to go back to your other daily activities and stop annoying/bitching at Devs who are trying to finish a game without annoyances bothering them. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soulfirez 901 Posted April 3, 2014 Damn i havent been reading the news on dayz much in the last couple of weeks i knew they had bought a crew from a hunting game across to do animal zed AI (and hit box fixing) i didnt know it was the cabelea crew EPIC i so love there hunting games i cant count how many hours i have blown hunting in there games ( i prefer real hunting but with a young wife and a baby under 2 i get little to no time to hunt these days. Now i am really pumped for hunting in Dayz ill be hiding down wind with my meat bait out for wolves and pop my prey shall fall lol. As for the zeds now is not really the time to complain about them as they behaviour etc is just a place holder we all know that lets wait till they get them closer to what they want before making sweeping suggestions and out right complaints shall we ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NinjaTurkey 255 Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) If they are going to making everyone roll around with a fireaxe locked and loaded 100% of the time because their "new and improved" dumb ass broken AI zombies agro you from 2000 yards away and can walk through walls to get you..... the least they could do is put some damn LOOT on them. Its not like they are really any more dangerous or exciting. You can kill 5 at a time walking backwards with a fire axe, you can still outrun them if you shoulder your weapon and run with your fists up, you just cant really easily avoid them anymore. So the devs made zeds slightly more annoying. You know what they call annoyances in MMOs? Time sinks. But time sinks usually have some reward. So how about it? Come on devs.. we know you are incapable of fixing your broken AI and your goal seems to be to make them more annoying so why not throws us the slightest bone and make them lootable. I mean I know you guys are working on some really important end game content like spray painting guns and new skins for the soda cans but maybe you can find some time for this Ok im really starting to get annoyed with posts like this. The dev team are working on this. The game is in testing phase. You payed to test. Stop whining and come up with something constructive.The devteam dont all work on the same thing, different parts of the team do different jobs. Would you rather they not release some of the stuff they have been releasing until zombies are done? Because if thats what you want then we would still but stuck with just an M4, Mosin and an fnx 45 and barely anything to wear. Edited April 3, 2014 by NinjaTurkey 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NinjaTurkey 255 Posted April 3, 2014 The truth hurts I guess. 2+ years of work and what? A new inventory system, new skins, and item decay? OHHH and maybe sometime this month we will get a working fireplace... come on. They might as well take the zombies out of the game altogether and replace them with invisible dust clouds which serve absolutely no purpose other than to be annoying by randomly doing damage to players. That way at least people will stop bitching about the broken AI I hate to be "that guy" but Alpha....... ffs why can people not understand this. You were warned by dean hall before you bought it. You were warned on the steam page before you bought it. And you were/are being warned everytime you open the damn game that it is in alpha. Features will be buggy. They will break upon patch day. This is the testing phase of the game. Not the full release. If you want great features then i suggest you wait. Because its gonna be a bumpy ride for you i think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pacific_coast 632 Posted April 3, 2014 op makes valid but dickish point loot on zeds is coming Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeppa 562 Posted April 3, 2014 Oh.. what an ignorance with OP. Please do some research about the development and what have happened before you post something so silly stuffFirst post has a point, with very poor delivery... tho the first post woudnt be posted at all if you would have done the research about what coming and planned.But if this ranting helps you cope, let it all out! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captainvette2112 84 Posted April 3, 2014 I work in an agile development environment so dont talk to me about how development works. While I understand that different members of the team work on different items simultaneously the point is there are only so many dev points/hours per sprint and the way this team has been allocating resources just blows my mind. By the way, in most "alpha" settings you have multiple pushes per week, not per month. Now I agree that we were all warned about "alpha" but I dont think anyone (even the biggest butt sucking fanboys) realized just how empty of a shell the game was going to be nor how slow dev was going to be. Yes we are testers.. but guess what? Testers need shit to test. Most studios have to spend a lot of money to outsource a QA company to alpha test for them so this team has got it pretty good imo. There are few games with the kind of hype that allows the developers to take advantage of their customers by making them pay to test for them... so you would think they would use the resource. Thats all I am saying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enforcer1975 1111 Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) Buys alpha game and complains about alpha state of the game oh my you have so much WIN in your life dont you .... ( but hey one day i do hope they put loot on zeds even if it gets ruined when i axe or shoot them it will give you a chance of getting something good for kill and it will make them seem like they were once human ,id actually like some to have a backpack like in BP (i would only make it the lowest level craftable backpack and never put anything of great value in them at best a lucky clip for a pistol etc.. He is a bit right though..i mean 2 years and how far have they got? If you played a lot of their games you should know that this is even slower than their average pace. They overestimated themselves with ArmA 2 ( still patching ), DayZ Mod, ArmA 3, DayZ SA...what else? Or are they just bad at organizing? Edited April 3, 2014 by Enforcer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captainvette2112 84 Posted April 3, 2014 So YES I GET IT.... ALPHATM Content coming SOONTM DayZ Beta. Scheduled Q4 2019. Sign up now $59.99 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anothercynicalbrit 166 Posted April 3, 2014 Can not reply in all honesty, it's as if you want the alpha screamers to take this post to the graveyard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soulfirez 901 Posted April 3, 2014 He is a bit right though..i mean 2 years and how far have they got? If you played a lot of their games you should know that this is even slower than their average pace. They overestimated themselves with ArmA 2 ( still patching ), DayZ Mod, ArmA 3, DayZ SA...what else? Or are they just bad at organizing?been playing there games since OFP slower hmm maybe a llittle butt then its semi ambitous where most of there games have followed the same tried and true formula. If you think its slower because you just went through the arma 3 alpha i wouldnt have really called it an alpha it was more a mid beta by the time we got it day 1 and oh you know they only just finished the game even though its been gold for what 6 months so yeah they gott alot on there plates for a pretty small developer/publisher.. As for the 2 years part granted i would have thought they would have been further along on release day but lets not forget the original idea was to merely stabilize dayz the mod as dayz the standalone but they took a different path to rebuild sections of the engine to allow a much closer to the original intent of the mod in the SA ( namely a survival game not yet another death match shooter) They stated at release alpha was going to be a year long affair and your surprised at the development pace ( a year in ALPHA) sorry you are starting to sound like a jaded fan mate. They have been pretty transparent in the devel0opment in there schedule /progress from day 1 ( to fourth coming on rockets behalf i would say. But in the end if you not happy you can always play something else and come back in 6 months if itts a wash out you paid 30 dollars hell you pay more going to the movie theater so in the end if you lose you dont lose alot do you but the way people piss and moan its like life itself hinges on this. So many i am a developer types on this forum it amazes me how so many important people have time to play test a game in just come out of its first quater of alpha dedicated indeed.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadAsh (DayZ) 1513 Posted April 3, 2014 OP doesn't have a valid point. He clearly does not understand what a zombie survival game is. The loot prize he gets from killing zombies is the loot he finds in the towns he visits where the zombies spawn. Up until the latest patch most loot was free, as zombies weren't an issue, but that was only a temporary situation, it wont be anymore. Now you have to work for it, and gradually will become more difficult as the zombie AI gets implemented and they get the ability to go up all stairs etc. As for loot on zombies, if it is a question between more zombies or loot (which would indeed most likely be ruined, and mostly of crappy value anyway) for performance reasons , I choose more zombies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) (even the biggest butt sucking fanboys) If you're just going to rant on about an Early Access Alpha I shall go ahead and lock this thread. Maybe it shouldn't have happened in the first place. Read before posting. Rather hilarious how much people expected from a relatively small studio, such as Bohemia. Maybe should stick to AAA-titles, because they're always working. On full release. Without crashes. After months. Battlefield. Edited April 3, 2014 by kichilron 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites