The-MCV- 149 Posted March 24, 2014 I played last night with a friend and he had to log out to reboot. He had to sit down, nothing broken, for us... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karmaterror 982 Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) Seems like an alt F4/ Crash issue. Was like this in the mod aswell, if you tried a legitimate log out then you got the 15 sec timer....alt f4 and it bypassed that. I was hoping for the combat log system from the mod just without this exploit. Because lets face it, its like weeds said, people just wait for the log out then rush in for a no skill free kill. Bring out a better more robust system devs....preferably live like the one from the mod :) OP yours does sound like he logged ...the animation glitched...that's why he stood there like a deer in headlights for 2 mins. That in its self is immersion breaking part of the current system :( Edited March 24, 2014 by Karmaterror Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drunken Knife 17 Posted March 24, 2014 Easy idea (I seriosly got that from SAO, google it if you don't know it)Make the character stay on the server for like 2 minutes and the actual player not able to log into another server. If he combat logs, players can shoot him and he WILL be dead and has to start over. If you do that, those guys will actually try to fight back, just to stay alive. This would also make teaming up interesting, even for bandits. One guy logs out, the other one waits till the character disappears. It is a risk for the second player, but it is better than both dieing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMentMan 707 Posted March 24, 2014 lol, my friend logged out and logged in and there was 2 of him 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omgwtfbbq (DayZ) 1069 Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) There is no need for a fix since you can simply play hardcore if you don't want someone stalking you with 3pp.You just want your >>exploit<< third person view tailored to your personal needs Seeing your char from above is exploiting FIX IT!!!!!111oneoneoneelevenone You're missing the point; the dev team wants realism on all fronts, but they still allow third person because everyone would have a fucking fit if they took it out. Someone created a mod that allows for third person, but any objects not visible in first person cannot be seen while in third person. With this, any complaints about the "claustrophobic" first person view can be invalidated by simply switching to third person. People can no longer see around corners, and everyone can keep their view the way they want it, with nobody having an advantage over the other. I can tell by you extreme defense of the exploit that you use it a lot, and don't want it taken out. Hopefully soon the developers take out the crutch. EDIT: Here is the mod (skip to 3 minutes 40 seconds in) Edited March 24, 2014 by omgwtfbbq Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rauchsauger 94 Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) You're missing the point; the dev team wants realism on all fronts, but they still allow third person because everyone would have a fucking fit if they took it out. Someone created a mod that allows for third person, but any objects not visible in first person cannot be seen while in third person. With this, any complaints about the "claustrophobic" first person view can be invalidated by simply switching to third person. People can no longer see around corners, and everyone can keep their view the way they want it, with nobody having an advantage over the other. I can tell by you extreme defense of the exploit that you use it a lot, and don't want it taken out. Hopefully soon the developers take out the crutch. The crutch is removed it is called hardcore.If you want realism you would hardly want something different from 1st person view.In that regard it is pointless to want to change regular. And the proverbial vocal (not to say loudmouthed) minority aside everyone else seems to be okay with the 3pp atm. And if that helps diversify and by that extending the playerbase there will be more money to benefit hardcore and regular game mode.If you cannot see that you are blind. But the real issue at hand is - that all you realism blablabla 3pp exploit people really want 3rd person view but without the drawbacks.So you just want a different "crutch" (Your words not mine. I just can't stand hypocrites) Edited March 24, 2014 by Rauchsauger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omgwtfbbq (DayZ) 1069 Posted March 24, 2014 The crutch is removed it is called hardcore.If you want realism you would hardly want something different from 1st person view.In that regard it si pointless to want to change regular. But the issue at hand is - that all you realism blablabla 3pp exploit people really want 3rd person view but without the drawbacks.So you just want another "crutch" (Your words nor mine I just can't stand hypocrites) You aren't really contributing to the conversation anymore, you're just talking in circles. Like I said, the issue is that most people are reliant on the exploit even though many won't admit it. In its current state, because it is allowed, you are at a disadvantage if you don't use it, because others can see over/around walls that you can't. The solution is to go to third person to level the playing field. Because you keep going on about it, I do play on hardcore servers, but my friends play on regular. I would like to play with my friends more, but I don't play regular because of the exploit. If both regular and hardcore servers are essentially the same save for the additional camera angle, people would seamlessly switch between the two. It's even possible for hardcore to be removed completely, because there is no alternative exploit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rauchsauger 94 Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) You aren't really contributing to the conversation anymore, you're just talking in circles. Like I said, the issue is that most people are reliant on the exploit even though many won't admit it. In its current state, because it is allowed, you are at a disadvantage if you don't use it, because others can see over/around walls that you can't. The solution is to go to third person to level the playing field. Because you keep going on about it, I do play on hardcore servers, but my friends play on regular. I would like to play with my friends more, but I don't play regular because of the exploit. If both regular and hardcore servers are essentially the same save for the additional camera angle, people would seamlessly switch between the two. It's even possible for hardcore to be removed completely, because there is no alternative exploit. I wasnt finished and edited something in while you responded. Missing part: And the proverbial vocal (not to say loudmouthed) minority aside everyone else seems to be okay with the 3pp atm. And if that helps diversify and by that extending the playerbase there will be more money to benefit hardcore and regular game mode.If you cannot see that you are blind. Thing is that most people play reg over hardcore and they do so for a reason and aside from a minority here in the forums I have never witnessed someone wanting 3pp any other way. So since I like the game and want it to prosper - yeah let them have ALL the 3pp "exploits" they want as long as that secures the development of feature for the game I can then ultimately enjoy in hardcore. Edited March 24, 2014 by Rauchsauger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omgwtfbbq (DayZ) 1069 Posted March 24, 2014 Thing is that most people play reg over hardcore and they do so for a reason and aside from a minority here in the forums I have never witnessed someone wanting 3pp any other way. Here's the thread I got the video from; I was hoping it got the developer's attention but it seems to have not done so. http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/162565-fix-not-remove-third-person-perspective/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weedz 1105 Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) Here's the thread I got the video from; I was hoping it got the developer's attention but it seems to have not done so. http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/162565-fix-not-remove-third-person-perspective/Because they probably know that most people in this game nowadays don't want the "exploit" fixed in any way even one that doesn't touch 3pp in any way other than unfairly seeing around corners and completely negates any of the fake arguments the crutch kiddies try to make ... which is sad. Edited March 24, 2014 by Weedz 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kihz 83 Posted March 24, 2014 Thank you. No I know that might be a way to do it. Why didnt they fix this yet if everyone hates combat loggers so much? It's probably not something easy to fix and since it's Alpha, they are adding stuff more than fixing stuff. Beta is where you fix stuff more than add. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rauchsauger 94 Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) Because they probably know that most people in this game nowadays don't want the "exploit" fixed in any way even one that doesn't touch 3pp in any way other than unfairly seeing around corners and completely negates any of the fake arguments the crutch kiddies try to make ... which is sad.And if that is the way it is? The devs were kind enough to have hardcore game mode available. How nice of them to cater to the people wanting something else.And how do you guys react to that? You want the other game mode changed also... Edited March 24, 2014 by Rauchsauger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrLoK 16187 Posted March 24, 2014 Hello there The topic at hand is how, as rick so eloquently put it, the "patch fucked up the anti combat log system." Please, no more 1st vs 3rd. There's other threads for that. Rgds LoK 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weedz 1105 Posted March 24, 2014 ^you mods are literally the best in the history of the internet :beans: :beans: :beans:------------------------------------------------------------------------------ So have we confirmed that this is someone Alt +F4 or internet dying pretty much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites