It has happened...

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

Oh look one of those "literally nothing the developers do could possibly be wrong" people that are so great for the gaming industry and who the creator of the game loves so much.

Or one of those who bought and paid for an "alpha" that they read all the warnings about and are aware that there is going to be game breaking bugs as it states every goddamn time you start the game up.

Edited March 21, 2014 by Caboose187

[Weedz 1105]

Or one of those who bought and paid for an "alpha" that they read all the warnings about and are aware that there is going to be game breaking bugs as it states every goddamn time you start the game up.

What does that have to do at all with someone saying the zombies are perfect now and the devs shouldn't care about people who are complaining about the horribly bugged zombies? Pretending like everything is fine and working perfectly is the exact opposite of what you're supposed to do in an alpha. The entire gaming industry would be far better off without people like you being involved in any way with a game's development.

Edited March 21, 2014 by Weedz

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

What does that have to do at all with someone saying the zombies are perfect now and the devs shouldn't care about people who are complaining about the horribly bugged zombies? Pretending like everything is fine and working perfectly is the exact opposite of what you're supposed to do in an alpha.

Because bitching and moaning is so much more productive, right?  People are aware of the goddamn zombies and the glitches but these same people are also aware that this is an early access "alpha" and can take the bugs and make constructive posts about it.   Maybe you should try being constructive and people wouldn't come down on your idiotic responses.

[victusmortuus 1074]

Oh sweet merciful god. I cannot believe that first quote.

 

"You can't be in a firefight because you need someone to kill zombies and that gives away your position"

 

Lets dissect this shall we? This person is angry because he can't have military style firefights against  players because there are too many zombies. Oh why, oh why, oh jesus' tits why? MILITARY STYLE FIREFIGHTS ARE NOT THE POINT OF DAYZ. It's about zombies, that's what the Z stands for in the title!!

 

There are other games which let you shoot people. Go play those. People mistaking Day z for a completely different game than what it is are the people who are destroying it.

 

It actually stands for zero.

[Weedz 1105]

Because bitching and moaning is so much more productive, right?  People are aware of the goddamn zombies and the glitches but these same people are also aware that this is an early access "alpha" and can take the bugs and make constructive posts about it.   Maybe you should try being constructive and people wouldn't come down on your idiotic responses.

You know you're trying to defend someone who literally just said the zombies are fine (even going so far as to say the devs would be foolish if they fixed them) and don't need to be changed by saying everyone knows about the bugged zombies and glitches right?

 

Those two things are opposites. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/opposite

 

 

Some people's brains are truly amazing. Hopefully the influx of people like you stops before we have WarZ 2.0

Edited March 21, 2014 by Weedz

[Rick1633 136]

You know you're trying to defend someone who literally just said the zombies are fine (even going so far as to say the devs would be foolish if they fixed them) and don't need to be changed by saying everyone knows about the bugged zombies and glitches right?

 

Those two things are opposites. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/opposite

 

 

Some people's brains are truly amazing. Hopefully the influx of people like you stops before we have WarZ 2.0

 

 

Well you got your fucking wish.   I'm not bitching about the shitty and lazy way they have ignored zombie glitching.....   I just tried for one fucking hour to play on one single fucking server between 8:30 and 9:30 PM Eastern Time zone with 4 buddies and none of us could get a single server to work for more than 20 seconds.

 

How in God's fuck could they have not seen problems this big when they tested the patch for weeks?    Please fucking explain this to me.

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

It's amazing the stupidity of some people.  Got one who uses the word fuck every two words and all he does is make bitching and whining threads.  And another who is so blatantly stupid he still thinks there is a game called WarZ still.  :lol:

 

If you are going to post in a thread or make your own at least use actual arguments as to why these bugs are game breaking.

Edited March 21, 2014 by Caboose187

[Weedz 1105]

And another who is so blatantly stupid he still thinks there game is called WarZ still.  :lol:

Usually when I call people stupid I try to use the correct form of their and proper sentence structure so I don't make myself look like I have a lower IQ than the person I'm failing to insult.

Edited March 21, 2014 by Weedz

[Publik 404]

It's amazing the stupidity of some people.  Got one who uses the word fuck every two words and all he does is make bitching and whining threads.  And another who is so blatantly stupid he still thinks there game is called WarZ still.  :lol:

If you rebrand a chunk of shit as a pile of crap, does that make it any less of a chunk of shit?

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

If you rebrand a chunk of shit as a pile of crap, does that make it any less of a chunk of shit?

If you pay for that chunk of shit without reading the warnings or smelling it first, who is at fault?

[Publik 404]

If you pay for that chunk of shit without reading the warnings or smelling it first, who is at fault?

Are we talking about DayZ or WarZ?

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

Are we talking about DayZ or WarZ?

You lost me, I thought you were talking about DayZ :p  Yes, Infestation: Survivor Stories, which is what WarZ is now called is really shitty

[LaughingJack (DayZ) 767]

Oh, cmon...it was such a nice discussion here for most of the time, no need to start flaming just because of different opinions and misunderstandings.

Yes, Zs are bugged. But yes, respawning is fine for some, eben if they are bugged.

Edit:god, i hate typing on my mobile -.-

Edited March 21, 2014 by LaughingJack

[gannon46 788]

hahahaha I wish I could taste the tears of there misfortune. thank you rocket and dev team for giving this game some damn difficulty and for making these team death match clowns quiver with fear that there run is over. have fun in electro shooting at each other hope you enjoy the zeds because they are going to enjoy your brains. and the one post about the player being forced to team up priceless I bet that cat sits in apartments in the towns barkin mosin rounds at folks and now he does it and gets shit tons of aggro. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha I can't get enough of these people whining.does that make me sick.

[Highlander007 249]

We need this in Cherno, huge hordes that move from place to place with only a few zombies respawning in vicinity of players because that destroys realism.

[Window Licker 504]

I want this in Cherno, huge hordes that move from place to place with only a few zombies respawning in vicinity of players because that destroys immersion.

 

fixed, we are all well aware of the limitations currently on spawning zombies into the world, from my experience they will spawn in a radius around the spot you last fired, so if you shoot and move then you have a decent chance of getting clear.  However this does make it more likely that other players will spot you, while it is a stop gap measure to make it feel like the infected are attracted to the sound of your gun and being that I'm yet to see one spawn in directly in front of me, always where I'm not looking.  It imo will suffice until they can actually sit down and get the infected situation sorted out properly.

Edited March 21, 2014 by Window Licker

[hotcakes 348]

Dude, there were so many zeds that they aggro'd on people I didn't see yet.

[Sonic-NKT 38]

i think its fine that new spawned zeds agro on people if they just fired a gun.... even tho the zombie just spawned it should just react as someone who has been there all the time. The Respawn mechanism is there to keep the engine running fine and not going down because of too many zombies, but the zombies should still react like they have been there before imo... if you know what i mean ;)

 

But yeah i admit that its still a bit broken atm. If you killed someone with a melee weapon without making much noise the respawned zed shouldnt be aware of you, like the other zombies who have been there before but couldnt see or hear you.

 

The clipping needs to be fixed, we all know this. also zombies should respawn out of sight.. but well still know you are there if you fired a gun before like i described at the beginning.

 

The bleeding all the time is a bit to harsh as well imo, but i also like the fact that they are becoming more dangerous. if you have found an axe the zombies were no threat anymore before and still are right now if you kill them without a noisy weapon....

Some complains posted here are really ridiculous (cant start firefight without zombies attacking)... pvp shouldnt be the biggest threat in this game, surviving the zombies/illness/hunger and so on should be.

 

Its a alpha guys, some of the complaining on this thread are just plain stupid. If you cant stand sometimes slow updates, (game breaking) bugs or loosing the character, dont play an early alpha, wait for the final product. Its good to hear feadback from us tester but having the same thread/topic over and over again wont fix the game faster. its just annoying to all other forum members.

Edited March 21, 2014 by Sonic-NKT

[iBane 381]

I logged in as well.Finally the zombies are harder.

I had to use up a whole bandage stock :D

But...something was totally wrong with the fireaxe,it couldn't low-fast swing

so i had to press space and raise it furter above in order to work.

That cost me alot and decided to equip my handgun.

 

Have to raise melee weapons right now with the space bar to attack.  This will be fixed to work like firearms where you can attack/fire from the lowered position, but currently not in place for melee.  This was listed under "known issues" for the patch notes, but the language isn't very clear

[Window Licker 504]

Respawning mechanics

rocket2guns

Or rather, if your weapon makes noise when zombies respawn they will respawn with knowledge of where the location of the shots occurred.

If you use something that does not make noise (such as a melee weapon) then this will not happen.

Edit: I must remind people this implementation is place-holder only, in the strongest sense of that term. Expect the zombie spawning, collision, and behavior to be fully up for revision as an entirely new separete team is currently looking at this.

 

the hemophilia

Hicks_206 

Bleeding was looked at, and reduced this morning.

Edited March 21, 2014 by Window Licker

[Jex 1104]

Nobody is claiming it's too realistic or too hard, we're claiming it's too unrealistic and encourages "stupid" gameplay styles.

 

All of which is true.

 

You can't "stealth" around zombies currently, they can see you clear as day from 200 meters, while you're prone, with a building in the way. Silently killing them is useless, as they respawn right away in the same area and just aggro you again.

 

 

 

I ran behind one about 3 feet away and it didn't even bat an eye lid.

 

Pro Tip - don't walk into zombie LOS ;)

[Jex 1104]

Again, the complaint isn't that it's hard. Zombies are still easy, but they're so broken in implementation that it kills many gameplay styles, like stealth for example.

 

How is that hard to get your head around?

 

Zombies are still easy. They're just poorly implemented and a pain in the ass.

 

Wait until they put 200 in a town.

[Jex 1104]

They are only a threat because you kill one and then it spawns back perhaps in the same spot it died in. Then it knows where you were if you killed it with a gun and aggro right as it spawns. I have killed 2-3 zombies and watched them spawn and then aggro on me seconds later. Its not that its difficult to fight just an annoying bug really or shallow mechanic. The zombies having no clip,spawning in front of your eyes,and the new melee system which is a bit clunky you have people seeing zombies as a threat. Its not good design that made them hard its flawed and bad game play and mechanics that made them a threat. There is a difference because one is intentional while the other is by programming jenga. 

 

Issues with current zombie implementation:

1. They have no clip and can ignore map and building geometry.

2. They can see players through geometry and at great distance.

3. They spawn as fast as you kill them sometimes a matter of feet from where you just killed them.

4.They retain aggro as they spawn so you have a zombie that has knowledge of where you are after many deaths and it will keep coming back to attack you.

5.The zombies a too few and they don't work correctly at all.

 

They have some clip because I've watched them walk along walls and go through gaps.

[Jex 1104]

Usually when I call people stupid I try to use the correct form of their and proper sentence structure so I don't make myself look like I have a lower IQ than the person I'm failing to insult.

 

People smarter than you who couldn't spell either....

 

• Ann Bancroft, Arctic Explorer.
• Alexander Graham Bell.
• John Britten, Inventor.
• Pierre Curie, Physicist (1903 Nobel Prize).
• Thomas Edison.
• Albert Einstein.
• Michael Faraday.
• Carol Greider, Molecular Biologist, awarded 2009 Nobel Prize in Medicine.
• Jack Horner, Paleontologist.
• Dr. Peter Lovatt, psychologist and dancer.
• Dr. James Lovelock.
• Paul MacCready "Engineer of the Century."
• Archer Martin, Chemist (1952 Nobel Laureate)
• Matthew H. Schneps, Astrophysicist
• John R. Skoyles, Brain Researcher.

Read more: http://www.dyslexia.com/famous.htm#ixzz2wbEyQ3GF

[Rick1633 136]

It's amazing the stupidity of some people.  Got one who uses the word fuck every two words and all he does is make bitching and whining threads.  And another who is so blatantly stupid he still thinks there is a game called WarZ still.  :lol:

 

If you are going to post in a thread or make your own at least use actual arguments as to why these bugs are game breaking.

If you remove the word fuck from all my sentences you can easily see the clear and concise points that are well validated and relevant.   Using the work fuck may not be great manners, but it does not always mean the person is stupid.  I'm actually a professional educator.  The progress of this game is so infuriating, that I curse wildly and only on this venue.   I have degrees in history and economics.   I am far from stupid.      This game's incredibly unprofessional expansion brings out the worst in me.  I had so much expectation so when I see these game breaking problems in every single patch, I go off the deep end.