Now that looting towns is so "risky" due to the Zed threat..

[belphegor_goatzombie 100]

Every player I have killed, over 20 now....

 

 

You killed only 20 guys and brag about it? :lol:

Unless you are one of those "hero" types that dont shoot much?

[LaughingJack (DayZ) 767]

I enjoy your attention, but stop with the hating on me Jack. Okay? 

 

I wasn't hating on you, just making an assumption what could happen ;)

[Irish. 4886]

You killed only 20 guys and brag about it? :lol:

Unless you are one of those "hero" types that dont shoot much?

Are you okay? ...seriously?

 

I was not bragging in any way.. 20 is a low number. Ive played about 40 hours on Dayz. I bought it in February as I was still playing the mods until then. 

 

:|

[shawnm7722 14]

I appreciate that they made zombies more of a threat, it matches how I personally want the game to be so selfishly I'm pleased. The added threat via bugginess is not ideal but I guess I am what they refer to as an alphacus (sp?) in that I consider it part of the process and am mostly just happy if I can login and play.

 

Overall I haven't found looting a major city significantly more problematic than pre-patch, but I also have not spent much time in Elektro or Berezino so my experience in that regard is limited. I went to Svetlo with a friend on Regular last night and took my Hardcore char to cherno / balota (because I was bored / suicidal).

 

To address the specific theme of the post, it would bum me out if this encourages more indiscriminate KoS for loot purposes but I see the logic in it.

 

Not that I'm a bleeding heart in-game hero but I find it's more enjoyable if social interaction consists of a variety of experiences and not 90% KoS (whether defensive or predatory)

[dusty_nuttles 130]

5 mins work is a waste of time? 5 mins to be fully geared vs. hours.. ???

 

Ive done it.. I can attest its not a waste of time. 

 

My first kill got me fully geared.. I was alive at that time for about 10 mins total. From coast, to magnum, to fully geared in under 15mins. 

 

Anyhow, that is my experience with it.

 

You've done it what, once? How many failed attempts are you leaving out? Thats a lot of time your leaving out my friend.

 

I know for a fact your being dishonest as well as deceptive. Your not going to sit there and tell me you gear up in 5 minutes by killing a geared player every time you do it now are you? I hope you don't expect me or anyone to believe that malarky.

 

There is a kid on my Steam that used to play on my mod server circa 2012-2013. We've chatted from time to time since SA came out and all he does is what you do and he gets killed about 20 x before he gets the kill and gears up. He could also say it takes him 5 minutes, like you've just said, but he would be leaving out the part about the 20x, or 3 hours, of failed attempts.

[Irish. 4886]

I wasn't hating on you, just making an assumption what could happen ;)

 

You seem to be upset based on your recent replies to my posts, that's all. 

 

My new questions is:

You respond to this saying you were making an assumption? I dont get how that makes sense.. Not being a dick, being genuine right now. 

 

You said, "Really irish? A thread about promoting KoS as the way to get gear and you make fun about someone that gears up on low pop servers?" 

 

Now how is that making an assumption? It seems to me like you are just trying to call me out for something. I mean, am I wrong here?

[Irish. 4886]

You've done it what, once? Multiple times. How many failed attempts are you leaving out? So far no failed attempts really. Ive failed at killing people, but when I did it to loot them it has worked out fine. Thats a lot of time your leaving out my friend. Did you actually think I literally meant I could kill a player every 5 mins AND LOOT THEM? You cant be serious about that, right?

 

I know for a fact your being dishonest as well as deceptive.  Do you now? I know for a fact you are assuming things.. thats what I know. Your not going to sit there and tell me you gear up in 5 minutes by killing a geared player every time you do it now are you? Yes. Each time I engage a geared player, from first shot to looting is less than 5 mins EVERY TIME. I hope you don't expect me or anyone to believe that malarky. Why, is it now impossible to shoot someone and loot their body in 5 mins..? What did they patch looting bodies to take like 6 mins or something? 

 

There is a kid on my Steam that used to play on my mod server circa 2012-2013. We've chatted from time to time since SA came out and all he does is what you do and he gets killed about 20 x before he gets the kill and gears up. I have not died once from another player in the SA and have killed over 20. Also I am 36, not a kid that you know on steam. He could also say it takes him 5 minutes, like you've just said, but he would be leaving out the part about the 20x, or 3 hours, of failed attempts.  It takes time to walk to a town right? It also takes time to encounter another player.. that time, I did not speak of. What I said was it takes 5 mins or less to kill and loot a body. Because it does. I did not speak of the time taken to hunt them down, just like the time taken to walk to a town. Because that part is very relative. The point I was making was, once you see a town.. it takes time and risk to loot it completely.  Once you see a player, it takes 5 mins and risk to loot their body. Not believing that I am capable of shooting another player, really just speaks of your own outlook on your skill of playing. Because you think its impossible for yourself to do it, you cannot believe that someone else can. 

WUT THE LITERAL FUCK...  :rolleyes: 

Edited March 20, 2014 by lrish

[pacific_coast 632]

imo

 

looting towns are not risky

 

just gotta quickly kill zeds that agrro to you with axe

 

i'd say desync in towns while a lot of zeds are attacking you is what is risky

 

i desynced and was "pushed" out of a 2nd story wall and died, or desynced and turned grey-screen bleedout surrounded by zeds.

 

dat desync mannnn

[Irish. 4886]

 

dat desync mannnn

 

The only proven way to beat dat dysnc is KOS...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

your entire Dayz File I mean. Just KOS it. ;)

[amiasfree 262]

the zeds causing bleed every hit regardless of gear/ gear not getting damaged by zeds

 

is not "threatening"

 

it is annoying, now i have to carry extra bandages

It's very easy to circle strafe and not get hit, even with multiple on you (provided you don't lag). Pristine chest attachments are a must I would imagine because in the patch notes it said zeds now aim for the chest rather than the head most of the time.

 

On topic, no, this doesn't make looting players a better option. If you would actually *rob* them without killing and ruining all their gear, I'd say it would increase legitimate banditry if KoS wasn't so ingrained in the communities mentality...

Edited March 20, 2014 by Amias Free

[Deathlove 2286]

Do you think people will realize how much easier it is to KOS for gear? 

 

See, you could loot a town for about 40 mins.. spend about 35 of that axing or shooting zeds. And end up with 2 sodas and some ammo for a weapon you do not have.. (yes, it may go much better or much worse than this example)

 

Or you could shoot that player over there.. run from the zed's that may or may not spawn off of your gunshots.. circle back and loot his body. All in about 5 mins tops.

 

So rather than people killing as an end game and due to boredom.. maybe BIS just gave us all a real reason to KOS.. 

 

Survival.

Idk i really like it atm. Not allot of ppl are hitting cities SUPER HARD right now without being well equiped so im actually going through allot of towns with more ease now than I used to. I really like the change overall.

[pacific_coast 632]

respawn my dayz folder?! nooooo

it will take more than 258 seconds to reinstall

[enforcer1975 1111]

it is annoying, now i have to carry extra bandages

 

What did you use the space for before? Extra ammo? Now they serve another...with food and water lacking i bet you would be carrying cans and canteens in those in the future.

[makomachine 263]

What did you use the space for before? Extra ammo? Now they serve another...with food and water lacking i bet you would be carrying cans and canteens in those in the future.

I find myself looking in inventory sometimes and asking, do I really need 300+ rounds of ammo? Funny how the mind works as you loot around. Probably should have picked up an extra soda or two...

[Bearserk 57]

Even with the new zombies I can still loot towns like Elektro from harbour to firestations while blasting my way trough town with a magnum. If you can't even loot a small town you're doing it wrong.

[Deathlove 2286]

Even with the new zombies I can still loot towns like Elektro from harbour to firestations while blasting my way trough town with a magnum. If you can't even loot a small town you're doing it wrong.

Well even though it may be easy starting off fresh and getting that FIRST good weapon can be very tough even if its just melee. So i can see ppl dying trying to find a wood chopper, fire axe, machete or even just a normal pistol.

[Irish. 4886]

What did you use the space for before? Extra ammo? Now they serve another...with food and water lacking i bet you would be carrying cans and canteens in those in the future.

Once hunting hits.. all you need is cooking gear, hunting gear, and a nearby well for water.. You wont even need a backpack if you don't want one. All of it could fit on your person. 

 

You could survive out in that forest until Jesus comes back..

[Deathlove 2286]

Once hunting hits.. all you need is cooking gear, hunting gear, and a nearby well for water.. You wont even need a backpack if you don't want one. All of it could fit on your person. 

 

You could survive out in that forest until Jesus comes back..

Careful he might bite your face off. Considering we are talking about some one that died....lmao

[Weedz 1105]

nope.

 

Banned.

And yet you didn't ban the one who actually started it by saying Umadbrah and calling the guy you did ban a F-ing idiot then proceeding to swear in every post he made after that ...

Edited March 20, 2014 by Weedz

[escobert 112]

I have more than enough 5.56 and 60 rounds mags for all the zombies to come for me :) I'm enjoying the meaner zeds

[OrLoK 16185]

And yet you didn't ban the one who actually started it by saying Umadbrah and calling the guy you did ban a F-ing idiot ...

Hello there

 

If you think  a member is breaking any rules then simply report them.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

[Ineedscoffee 464]

I always have a reason to drop someone on sight these days. See, at the far northern reaches of the map, you run into someone, it's a survivor. He will have food, ammo, can opener, hell, maybe even a portable stove and tank, and I promise with 99.9% certainty, he will think the same of you.

[dusty_nuttles 130]

5 mins work is a waste of time? 5 mins to be fully geared vs. hours.. ???

 

Ive done it.. I can attest its not a waste of time. 

 

My first kill got me fully geared.. I was alive at that time for about 10 mins total. From coast, to magnum, to fully geared in under 15mins. 

 

Anyhow, that is my experience with it.

 

 

You've done it what, once? Multiple times. How many failed attempts are you leaving out? So far no failed attempts really. Ive failed at killing people, but when I did it to loot them it has worked out fine. Thats a lot of time your leaving out my friend. Did you actually think I literally meant I could kill a player every 5 mins AND LOOT THEM? You cant be serious about that, right?

 

I know for a fact your being dishonest as well as deceptive.  Do you now? I know for a fact you are assuming things.. thats what I know. Your not going to sit there and tell me you gear up in 5 minutes by killing a geared player every time you do it now are you? Yes. Each time I engage a geared player, from first shot to looting is less than 5 mins EVERY TIME. I hope you don't expect me or anyone to believe that malarky. Why, is it now impossible to shoot someone and loot their body in 5 mins..? What did they patch looting bodies to take like 6 mins or something? 

 

There is a kid on my Steam that used to play on my mod server circa 2012-2013. We've chatted from time to time since SA came out and all he does is what you do and he gets killed about 20 x before he gets the kill and gears up. I have not died once from another player in the SA and have killed over 20. Also I am 36, not a kid that you know on steam. He could also say it takes him 5 minutes, like you've just said, but he would be leaving out the part about the 20x, or 3 hours, of failed attempts.  It takes time to walk to a town right? It also takes time to encounter another player.. that time, I did not speak of. What I said was it takes 5 mins or less to kill and loot a body. Because it does. I did not speak of the time taken to hunt them down, just like the time taken to walk to a town. Because that part is very relative. The point I was making was, once you see a town.. it takes time and risk to loot it completely.  Once you see a player, it takes 5 mins and risk to loot their body. Not believing that I am capable of shooting another player, really just speaks of your own outlook on your skill of playing. Because you think its impossible for yourself to do it, you cannot believe that someone else can. WUT THE LITERAL FUCK...  :rolleyes: 

 

See your original post waaay up there? 5 mins work is a waste of time? 5 mins to be fully geared vs. hours.. ???

 

Your saying NOW that the engagement itself takes 5 minutes, but in your ambiguous post way up there says 5 minutes to be geared up. How in the hell am I supposed to know your taking about the engagement itself. Didn't know I was a mind reader. You even contradict yourself in your first post. One second its 5 minutes, then its 15 minutes. Which is it, 5 or 15? The fact is it never took you 5 minutes, it took you 15 and considering how your connecting dots, it was probably more like 20-30.

 

Its a very low percentile chance you spawn close to an area thats populated enough for you to run into a fully geared player so your running at least 10-20 minutes to get a location thats populated. Then you have to find a geared player which adds more minutes. Then you engage, kill, loot which adds more minutes. Probablility wise this is a 20-30 minute venture 75%-80% of the time.

 

The thing is you never said until that mess of a reply that you were talking about the engagement time it takes to kill and player and loot his body. Not once you said that. What you said was it takes you "5 minutes to be fully geared" VERBATIM. Never been killed by another player, ok chief, whatever you say.

 

The way you connect the dots and write, I wouldn't be admitting to being 36.

 

If anyone used your backwards logic of telling a tale it would never take someone hours to get fully kitted, but more like 5 minutes because I'm not referring to the time traveled (because its relative right?), just the time it takes to engage the loot and put it in my inventory.

 

And to put the final nail in the coffin, I've got at least 300 kills (which is lowballing here) and never once was I killed by a player that wasn't fully geared. Never once killed by side-arms. Been shot by side-arms plenty of x, never killed. 

Edited March 20, 2014 by Bennet

[Deathlove 2286]

I always have a reason to drop someone on sight these days. See, at the far northern reaches of the map, you run into someone, it's a survivor. He will have food, ammo, can opener, hell, maybe even a portable stove and tank, and I promise with 99.9% certainty, he will think the same of you.

Idk i always try to interact with ppl rather than shot them. But again if its some one i dont know i try not to stay around to long just incase.

Edited March 20, 2014 by Deathlove

[Ineedscoffee 464]

Idk i always try to interact with ppl rather than shoo them. But again if its some one i dont know i try not to stay around to long just incase.

I gave it the ol college try at first, didn't take. I'm not playing to make buddies, or take on a side kick. It's scout out a location, get in, get what I need, get out. I'm not letting up on that mentality. Once you go soft (giggity) it's hard to get that edge back. Your timing and reflexes slow, your charactor judgement plummets, and your wiggling on top of the electro church for beans. Not me man, not me,

Edited March 20, 2014 by Ineedscoffee