Irish. 4886 Posted March 20, 2014 Do you think people will realize how much easier it is to KOS for gear? See, you could loot a town for about 40 mins.. spend about 35 of that axing or shooting zeds. And end up with 2 sodas and some ammo for a weapon you do not have.. (yes, it may go much better or much worse than this example) Or you could shoot that player over there.. run from the zed's that may or may not spawn off of your gunshots.. circle back and loot his body. All in about 5 mins tops. So rather than people killing as an end game and due to boredom.. maybe BIS just gave us all a real reason to KOS.. Survival. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Facetentacles 92 Posted March 20, 2014 Haha there's always going to be a reason to KoS everything until fresh spawns can't knock you out in one punch. At least if that's ever fixed I won't shoot Bambi's anymore 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blunce 991 Posted March 20, 2014 I would say in the game's current state, yes, that is obviously the easier route to gearing. But how did "that player over there" get his loot? Seems rather subjective to me 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eleventhavenue 204 Posted March 20, 2014 Or, I guess you could sneak around zombies?I haven't played the latest version at all, so forgive for my ignorance, but back in the mod DayZ I often looted towns without attracting zed attention a single time, before I realised that it's much easier to just run around.If the Zed spotting mechanics still work like usual, then I understand that this doesn't work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuPaFuNk 30 Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) Seems plausible. I'm not big on KoS anyhow but at the same time aren't you running the risk of wasting all that time to find ruined loot and gear. I'd rather recruit that player over there and just make him do the looting for me while I "watch his back". ;) Edited March 20, 2014 by SuPaFuNk 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guppy22143 1081 Posted March 20, 2014 No, not really.If you shoot that player, his gear is ruined.Thus you have 0 protection from the elements, zombies, and other players.All of his food and ammunition, and possibly even his gun is unusable.If anything, this will lead players to band together is larger groups. It's an incentive to actually help each other to survive. 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jragoz 2 Posted March 20, 2014 Whoever is prioritizing these updates isn't very intelligent, the loot system was inadequate before and even more so now that zombies respawn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuPaFuNk 30 Posted March 20, 2014 Whoever is prioritizing these updates isn't very intelligent, the loot system was inadequate before and even more so now that zombies respawn. ?HUH? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jragoz 2 Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) ?HUH? 1) You start up DayZ.2) You pick a server.3) Fail to connect, wait 200+ seconds.4) Pick a new server.5) Finally connect.6) You spend an hour plus going from town to town for loot and find absolutely nothing.7) Zombies chasing you plus Items don't respawn, almost always end up losing loot rather than gaining.8) Leave server.9) Join new server.10) Fail to connect.11) Wait 200 seconds.12) No loot on new server either.13) Ragequit due to Devs going full retard. "You guys are fucking idiots" - My words, to devs, after such a situation. Edited March 20, 2014 by Jragoz 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gobbokirk 546 Posted March 20, 2014 13) Ragequit due to Devs going full retard. I think you beat em to it. 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leo Balzac 190 Posted March 20, 2014 Or, I guess you could sneak around zombies?I haven't played the latest version at all, so forgive for my ignorance, but back in the mod DayZ I often looted towns without attracting zed attention a single time, before I realised that it's much easier to just run around.If the Zed spotting mechanics still work like usual, then I understand that this doesn't work.It doesn't work like this anymore as Zombies have superhuman (or would that be undead?) sight and hearing. They often times spot me at the edge of my render distance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiefMasterKush 321 Posted March 20, 2014 Eh.. /shrug I only played for a bit last night but I didn't notice zeds swarming me as people are complaining about here. Yeah they came in pairs more often than just running up solo expecting to get damage done. What do I care I am a zombie fighting machine. Doesn't change the fact that I only aggro them when I mean to (mostly ;) ) and if I don't want to fight them I wont (haven't tested this more but I was easily able to run away from a few). My friends both had issues with the zed causing them to bleed but then they both logged in near buildings/cities so., the way I see it initially is more anit-server hopping measures. Great patch IMO from what I've seen. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiefMasterKush 321 Posted March 20, 2014 Umadbrah?"I r fucking idiot" - My words, to devs, after such a situation. Search/Read/Learn.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ig-rage 78 Posted March 20, 2014 if people use their brains to get around the zombie threat, they can get in and out no problems. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jragoz 2 Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) I r really big faggot looking for attention. Edited March 20, 2014 by Jragoz 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elle 562 Posted March 20, 2014 It doesn't work like this anymore as Zombies have superhuman (or would that be undead?) sight and hearing. They often times spot me at the edge of my render distance.yeah they do. and when they do make sure to have your axe ready so that you kill them quietly and the respawn zed that takes its place doesn't have agro. often times I never even see the respawn zed. oh and I just snuck past a zed standing next to a police station, she was maybe 2 meters away and had her side to me as I snuck in the back door, I looted the whole station and snuck back out, she never even knew I was there. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiefMasterKush 321 Posted March 20, 2014 namecalling...I'm trying to help you .... there is a search function. Use it. Or just look there are 5 other thread on page one with ur complaints.. turns out the mod's are posting the link to the situation and what is being done about it. Also, Alpha son. Sounds like you are not cut out to play yet. Try and get a refund from Steam and come back when it is at least beta. Shit goes down get used to it or get over yourself. ...I have a perfect GIF for this but I've been told to hold off using it, so with some major self control I will not post it.yeah they do. and when they do make sure to have your axe ready so that you kill them quietly and the respawn zed that takes its place doesn't have agro. often times I never even see the respawn zed. oh and I just snuck past a zed standing next to a police station, she was maybe 2 meters away and had her side to me as I snuck in the back door, I looted the whole station and snuck back out, she never even knew I was there.This guy playing like a survivor... who does this. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jragoz 2 Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) Umadbrah? "I r fucking idiot" - My words, to devs, after such a situation. Search/Read/Learn.. I'm trying to help you .... there is a search function. Use it. Or just look there are 5 other thread on page one with ur complaints.. turns out the mod's are posting the link to the situation and what is being done about it. Also, Alpha son. Sounds like you are not cut out to play yet. Try and get a refund from Steam and come back when it is at least beta. Shit goes down get used to it or get over yourself. ...I have a perfect GIF for this but I've been told to hold off using it, so with some major self control I will not post it. K Douchebaggot. Next time I want help from an inbred americunt I'll ask. I also expect you to report me like I did to you. Give some get some. ,,l,, Edited March 20, 2014 by Jragoz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leo Balzac 190 Posted March 20, 2014 yeah they do. and when they do make sure to have your axe ready so that you kill them quietly and the respawn zed that takes its place doesn't have agro. often times I never even see the respawn zed. oh and I just snuck past a zed standing next to a police station, she was maybe 2 meters away and had her side to me as I snuck in the back door, I looted the whole station and snuck back out, she never even knew I was there.Perhaps you're quieter than I am. I also seen to agro the zombies, even when I'm trying to be sneaky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiefMasterKush 321 Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) this guy..Can not help the unteachable.. I am sorry my friend. Almost forgot.. :beans: Welcome to DayZ :beans: Edited March 20, 2014 by ChiefMasterKush 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimey Rick 3417 Posted March 20, 2014 No, not really.If you shoot that player, his gear is ruined.Thus you have 0 protection from the elements, zombies, and other players.All of his food and ammunition, and possibly even his gun is unusable.If anything, this will lead players to band together is larger groups. It's an incentive to actually help each other to survive. I've never seen a ruined gun on a victim unless it was in his bags. If you shoot someone in the head it generally ruins their glasses, mask and hat, and sometimes their shirt/jacket (for some reason), but rarely their pants or backpack. I'm not interested in what a guy has in his pants or shirt anyway; any smart player keeps his goodies in his backpack (usually near the bottom). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elle 562 Posted March 20, 2014 This guy playing like a survivor... who does this.not a guy... I play that way :P when I use my pistol or rifle I attract more zeds (even with the amphibia) causing me fire more rounds making much noise that eventually attracts other people causing me to get into gunfights that attract even more zeds and sometimes even more players... but you get the point... ;) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enforcer1975 1111 Posted March 20, 2014 It doesn't work like this anymore as Zombies have superhuman (or would that be undead?) sight and hearing. They often times spot me at the edge of my render distance. I don't believe that they can spot you from 1km away unless you cut down your graphics to such a low level to squeeze out more fps that you literally fucked up your details. 6) You spend an hour plus going from town to town for loot and find absolutely nothing. Should be common sense that you practically find nothing you need the most in houses during an apocalypse.7) Zombies chasing you plus Items don't respawn, almost always end up losing loot rather than gaining. Surviving is always a no win situation, if you lose more than you can find you obviously did something wrong? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiefMasterKush 321 Posted March 20, 2014 ????Not really sure what you are getting at. Are you unsure of your schooling? Are we not both posting on the same forums? Doesn't matter enjoy your stay here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elle 562 Posted March 20, 2014 Perhaps you're quieter than I am. I also seen to agro the zombies, even when I'm trying to be sneaky.just remember when you are sneaking to press "shift" so you are slow moving and make sure not to cross into the zeds LOS - I typically assume 180 degrees from the front side of the zed but I think their LOS is much smaller than this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites