valtsuh 68 Posted March 12, 2014 yeah this might be bad idea but still, so back stab like in bf4 or farcry3 but you kan only backstab people behind and if they dont move like if someone is looting or sniping you can backstab him with melee weapon, or if you have knife on m4 or mosin you could use that. and if you backstab it is insta kill and any suff couldnt get ruined.if you get backstabbed and you see it for last moment you could dodge it by running before it hits you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IkaikaKekai 1957 Posted March 12, 2014 I don't like the idea of instakill backstabs or even some RPG 2x damage mechanic for 'sneaking'. There should be a difference between a stab and a slash with melee weapons. IE if you stab someone in the front you have a good chance of killing them (maybe not instantly unless you get them in the brain or heart) as opposed to slashing them from behind. BF/COD style 'press R3 to win' knifeplay, or throat slashing from behind or whatever...no thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
agouti 105 Posted March 12, 2014 Every 2 levels, you should do an extra 1d6 damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enforcer1975 1111 Posted March 12, 2014 Every 2 levels, you should do an extra 1d6 damage. 1st or 2nd edition backstabbing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guppy22143 1081 Posted March 12, 2014 Good idea, wrong execution. A back stab should not instakill, at the most incapacitate. And it should certainly ruin gear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danlow 63 Posted March 12, 2014 Sigh, looks like many people still don't know what kind of a developer Bohemia Interactive is and the kind of games they make. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
byrgesen 1341 Posted March 12, 2014 I think it will be really hard to implement something solid, which gives us a chance of counterattacking a "backstab".I really dont want to see anything like we have in BF, get into this game, its simply to arcadish and overpower, to be able to pull a knife from your belt and stab someone, in under 2 secs. I dont see how to implement this into DayZ, while still making it "fair", tbh backstab has always been unfair in games, because its instakill, and all you have to do is run up to someone and click a button.So a no from me, we need other kinds of mechanics then this. I would however like to see the option to "stab with your weapon", as BigMike mentioned.Perhaps have 2 different kinds of attacks, a "hack and slash", as we have atm, and a proper stabbing animation.So you would be able to swing your axe at someone, but also be able to stab people with a bayonet, assuming the weapon is already equipped.No magic "pull it from my belt and instakill" please :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daisho 74 Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Speaking of Battlefield and other shooters, would be very nice to have kill-streaks and perks too, because CoD has it...Also, what you guys think about having some kind of additional gaming mode like... in Counter-Strike, you can plant bombs and other people have to defuse them.I know the map is a tad to big for the bomb-thingy, so it would be pretty cool to make the map a smaller and there would be 2 teams, one has to plant the bomb and the other one would have to defuse it.It would be so much fun to plant the bomb and then sit there and eat tuna while the other dudes would have to look for the bomb and couldn't eat tuna. Edited March 12, 2014 by daisho 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
byrgesen 1341 Posted March 12, 2014 Speaking of Battlefield and other shooters, would be very nice to have kill-streaks and perks too, because CoD has it...Also, what you guys think about having some kind of additional gaming mode like... in Counter-Strike, you can plant bombs and other people have to defuse them.I know the map is a tad to big for the bomb-thingy, so it would be pretty cool to make the map a smaller and there would be 2 teams, one has to plant the bomb and the other one would have to defuse it.It would be so much fun to plant the bomb and then sit there and eat tuna while the other dudes would have to look for the bomb and couldn't eat tuna. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AP_Norris 1018 Posted March 12, 2014 Wouldn't mind fire select for melee weapons, overarm/ underarm stabs/ slashing.Or, war of roses/ chivalry medieval warfare type melee where hold and move mouse up to release = raise dagger up and downward stab.Move and hold mouse left with weapon and do a sweeping blow across to the right.RMB and blocking too.With the WOR and CMW systems you could change T to selecting the way you hold the weapon and what end you hit with.Back of axe, side of shovel, hilt of longsword, butt of rifle, bayonet of rifle, handle of pistol, jab with axe handle, heavy punches and jab punches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
valtsuh 68 Posted March 12, 2014 Sigh, looks like many people still don't know what kind of a developer Bohemia Interactive is and the kind of games they make. i know if i have arma 2,arma 2 operation arrowhead,arma 3 and dayz but still it would be in game but it maybe wouldnt be good idea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daisho 74 Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) I feel somewhat sorry for the sneering comment, I appreciate every user who wants to contribute ideas that might improve gameplay and game mechanics as well as I appreciate all those brave gamers hopping on experimental servers to try out stuff and report bugs.But please for the love of god: don't forget what this game is about and try to have a vision what this game could become. I'm reading so many suggestions that are either about imporving the FPS aspect to an extend, that it would make the whole survival thingy obsolete, as well as I really "hate" reading stuff like "give us backstabbing because BF4 has it". No offense OP, BF4 might be a great game, I was a huge fan of the Battlefield series until BF3 (skipped BC1 and BC2 though), I personally didn't even bother with BF4 because BF3 went down a road that made me think "as well can play CoD then". The possibilities this game has to offer are endless and I'd love to see people to step back from the FPS-(only)-aspect and put more energy in finding out and develop ideas how to combine different gaming-types and gaming-styles in one game, because the outcome simply could be a blast. If I wouldn't love to play a FPS game I wouldn't have bought DayZ in the first place, so be assured that I'm an avid FPS gamer, but this game could have so much more to offer.The complexity of combinging survival aspects with FPS aspect is just awesome, now add some human interaction and -generally said - the human element to it and it would offer a gaming experience like no other. There is no point to add elemts you have in every f*cking FPS on the market already (as well as there is no point to just run around and kill everyone you come across), these are/ might be great games, but our goal should be to participate in creating something new, something unique, rather than just copying other games. This game always will be a FPS, just try to make it more unique, make it better and make it more complex than just "add more guns", "add vehicles" , "add backstabbing" and whatnot. I really didn't want to be snarky with my last comment and I hope you didn't get me wrong. If so, I'd like to excuse for being a dickhead,...but I really am tired of reading such suggestions that go down the wrong road in my opinion. Edited March 12, 2014 by daisho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sutinen 635 Posted March 12, 2014 No, but stabbing and slashing should be different animations for knives. A stab wound should be way worse than a cut. Maybe it could have a slighty worse range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enforcer1975 1111 Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Wouldn't mind fire select for melee weapons, overarm/ underarm stabs/ slashing. Too complicated imo even if it would a variety...they already have problems letting the characters walk in a believable way, they still have broomsticks up their ass and hangers in their shirts...that would be controls overkill if you had to do that like in ArmA 3...Even A.C.E. put "throw grenade mode" on one key. Edited March 12, 2014 by Enforcer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akafugitive 244 Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Not a fan of this, but I think a temporary stun to movement(need to regain footing) for receiving damage would be good. Would prevent people from dancing around in a non organic way. I remember seeing dean showing something like this off pre-release when the zombies were knocking him around and off his feet. Edited March 12, 2014 by akafugitive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pale1776 375 Posted March 12, 2014 Honestly, just make sure you watch your back (ahem, campers) and it shouldnt be a problem. What I WOULD like is to cut someones throat when theyre handcuffed. Cause y'know, disinfectant is gonna be nerfed and weapon firing more dangerous hopefully. And Bow and Arrow execution... just doesnt seem right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guppy22143 1081 Posted March 12, 2014 Honestly, just make sure you watch your back (ahem, campers) and it shouldnt be a problem. What I WOULD like is to cut someones throat when theyre handcuffed. Cause y'know, disinfectant is gonna be nerfed and weapon firing more dangerous hopefully. And Bow and Arrow execution... just doesnt seem rightTake his helmet off, and pop him with a magnum. Problem solved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackberrygoo 1416 Posted March 12, 2014 I would like to see stab moves , just not insta kill stabs . I for one have always wanted to see the ability to hold a swing down for a blunt object like a baseball bat so you can deliver a more powerful blow at the cost of attack speed , and this attack would have a 25% chance of being a one hit knock out , but not kill . This way instead of negotiating with someone, you just sneak up behind them and lay 1-4 hits into their skull which would most likely knock them unconcious , so you can grab their gear or just move on safely.As I'm an almost full time "hero" I like to have options , and since less than lethal weapons aren't in yet I thought blunt objects causing knockout would do the trick considering we already have the blunt objects just need more knockout percentages to them . And eventually when physics are better i can defly foresee stabbing and stuff with sharp objects without it looking cheesy . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ld-airgrafix 403 Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) I would like when sneaking, not to make so much noise. I wouldnt mind a button assigned when behind a player to grab and cut his throat. Edited March 13, 2014 by ld-airgrafix Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bando13204 2 Posted March 13, 2014 Speaking of Battlefield and other shooters, would be very nice to have kill-streaks and perks too, because CoD has it...Also, what you guys think about having some kind of additional gaming mode like... in Counter-Strike, you can plant bombs and other people have to defuse them.I know the map is a tad to big for the bomb-thingy, so it would be pretty cool to make the map a smaller and there would be 2 teams, one has to plant the bomb and the other one would have to defuse it.It would be so much fun to plant the bomb and then sit there and eat tuna while the other dudes would have to look for the bomb and couldn't eat tuna.Much lol. Especially at third paragraph. Have some beans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites