I've heard troubling rumours...(no helis)

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

If it's a sandbox, then there isn't an 'end game'.

I really hope DayZ doesn't turn into a game of "capture the helicopter". Because what's that got to do with surviving a zombie apocalypse?

but they're in all other military games. DayZ is a military game, isn't it? Edited March 5, 2014 by Caboose187

[pillock 850]

but they're in all other military games. DayZ is a military game, isn't it?

 

Is it?

 

Our survivor characters are civilians, aren't they?

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

Is it?

Our survivor characters are civilians, aren't they?

I don't know. All I see are military guys running around killing unarmed people.

[JackNSally 4]

Just make all flying contraptions fragile. That would make them extremely useful BUT extremely fragile. Lot's of maintenance and HIGH fuel usage. Unarmed.

[JackNSally 4]

Is it?

 

Our survivor characters are civilians, aren't they?

You're telling me what my character is? Yours is a mute martian who can only eat grass and kids 6 months and younger.

[Daemonkid 493]

Heli's were overpowered in the mod yes, but they were difficult to get up and running if you found one in a shit state. They were fun, and they were fun to steal.

I remember following a heli to their base with a group of my friend, and when they landed and all got out to put loot into the tents my buddies struck and I managed to sneak into the cock-pit of the helicopter and steal it right from under them, since they were engaged in a fight. They tried to shooting at it, but I managed to peel off and get it out of there safely.

 

Heli's were a great endgame and just all around fun. If you didn't have one you could shoot one down, they were fragile especially the huey a couple good shots to the cockpit always brought em' down. The MI17 was a bitch and a half though.

[GoTo2k 12]

Presumably fuel is going to be your biggest problem with running a vehicle? If fuel is scarce - as I think it should be - then presumably this is going to be a big factor in curtailing helicopter use? Can you even run a helicopter on normal retail-standard petrol that you'd be able to scavenge from roadside petrol stations or jerry cans in people's garages? Perhaps the airbases would have some stocks, but it strikes me that it'd be fairly easy for someone to come along and blow it up.

 

[...]

 

Refueling only at airbases could actually be the best way to balance them. 

 

"Oh, you want to refuel your precious heli? Suuuuuure! Just fly and land into one of the most dangerous areas on the map and then stick around for the next 15 minutes refueling it by hand! And remember, one shot to the engine and you're not going anywhere soon"

 

Sounds good to me - it would be high risk- high gain. And would open up chances for other players on a regular basis :)

 

However, it would have to be unfeasible to take the fuel with you to your base. Otherwise people will just go to the airfield by car... (And I don't know if there is a way to limit that amount without feeling totally artificial...)

Edited March 5, 2014 by GoTo2k

[wud 143]

All i hear is :
Map is too small.
Helis are OP

It Did work in the mod, did´t it ?

We should make a poll

[agentneo 337]

Chill out guys- Dean confirmed Day Z standalone will be open to the Workshop once it releases officially- once people can mod Standalone you'll be able to play on servers with choppers, I just cant wait. for more pve focused mods of standalone,. user mod new maps and everything.

[gungza 29]

Well what I heard him say is that helo's will be based off the Take on Helicopters Engine and they will be much harder to maintain and fly than in the mod, reducing some of the op'nes inherent in getting one.  I even bought Take On Helicopters to start practicing for when the helo's are introduced much later.  So if you can link what you are talking about that would be great.  Here is a link validating what i'm saying:  http://www.dayztv.com/standalone/dayz-standalone-confirmed-features/

 

let's stop feeding the rumour mill, if you can confirm what you are saying by posting an interview with the dev or official communication then do it, if you can't; keep it to yourself please.

[DaveAzoicer (DayZ) 135]

As long as there is ANY helis in the game, I'm happy. Some of my best dayz moments have been with helis.

[flygamer1 176]

If chopper was implemented they should be

1. unarmed

2. extremly hard to repair

3. endgame vehicle

[DemonGroover 8836]

So where was this rumour heard?

 

Your brother's mate's sister's friend's next door neighbour's talking budgie?

[GoTo2k 12]

So where was this rumour heard?

 

Your brother's mate's sister's friend's next door neighbour's talking budgie?

 

I knew a guy once who knew a guy whos father-in-laws buddy heard someone on a forum talking about another guy who definitely confirmed this!!! ;D

 

 

@GungZA Thanks for the DayZTV link. That was a nice read!

Edited March 5, 2014 by GoTo2k

[DMentMan 707]

i want helicopters, i think it will be in the game, i hope it will be in the game, it NEEDS to be in the game!

[Munson_fry (DayZ) 312]

i want choppers in the game so i can shoot the pilots out of the cockpit. 

 

thats my personal goal.

[deebz1234 243]

just not dayz without choppaz

 

and crash sites...

 

small amount of choppers each server never hurt anyone.

 

we lone wolves can out maneuver a chopper, its the coast cunts who comlain about being griefed by chopper death squads

[victusmortuus 1074]

If chopper was implemented they should be

1. unarmed

2. extremly hard to repair

3. endgame vehicle

 

They should be armed, if they're not then people wont bother with them due to the 'extremely hard to repair' downside that they'd have. 

 

If an armed chopper is flown like in Take on Helicopters then surely this would eliminate 99% of the pilots from the mod doing bambi runs (Their own fault anyway, they should leave the coast). If you're still getting killed a lot by choppers after the Take on Helicopters controls are in then you must tip your hat to the pilot and accept you were out matched.

[Karmaterror 982]

Love these posts about UH-60....or having 4 helis.

 

You guys know on vanilla dayz....the way its meant to be played....there is 1 heli per server....just 1! the UH-1Y

 

Its like the holy grail of the entire map. Check the spawns....not there, ok lets start hunting clearings on the map boarders, checking all the viable landing sites. Whats that noise.....shit its airborne....hit the deck under a tree!

 

Helis add so much to dayz....tense moments, goals for groups, challenging engagements for ground guys. And lets not forget, being a door gunner in Dayz is hell incarnate....your constantly exposed, with no cover. All ground peeps have to do is fill that door opening with rounds....youl see the body drop out after less than a clip.  

 

Basically they add so much to the game, and id rather be on the ground shooting from a stable firing position, then trying to compensate for heli drift with a door gun. People need to realise that the helis aren't OP at all. They are a disadvantage in so many ways :)

Edited March 5, 2014 by Karmaterror

[hombrecz 832]

I'm 100% against armed helis, but if they put in unarmed one and maybe allow folks to shoot from open doors, then I would'nt mind.

Also as folks said, it should be quite hard to repair and maintain a heli as well.

 

What about a number of helis per server? One or two? More, I feel, would be just wrong, what do you think?

 

And yeah, the feeling when I was driving a car and heard sound of heli approaching....that surely made my blood pressure go up every time!

Only problem with heli was, that you could not hide anything from them...no tent or vehicle was safe from everseeing eye of a helicopter.

[Grimey Rick 3417]

So we've effectively gone from just trying to survive to actively searching out parts for military helicopters?

Fascinating.

[Etherimp 1323]

Love these posts about UH-60....or having 4 helis.

 

You guys know on vanilla dayz....the way its meant to be played....there is 1 heli per server....just 1! the UH-1Y

 

Its like the holy grail of the entire map. Check the spawns....not there, ok lets start hunting clearings on the map boarders, checking all the viable landing sites. Whats that noise.....shit its airborne....hit the deck under a tree!

 

Helis add so much to dayz....tense moments, goals for groups, challenging engagements for ground guys. And lets not forget, being a door gunner in Dayz is hell incarnate....your constantly exposed, with no cover. All ground peeps have to do is fill that door opening with rounds....youl see the body drop out after less than a clip.  

 

Basically they add so much to the game, and id rather be on the ground shooting from a stable firing position, then trying to compensate for heli drift with a door gun. People need to realise that the helis aren't OP at all. They are a disadvantage in so many ways :)

 

 

The server I played on was Vanilla, and in Vanilla the default # of Heli spawns was 4..

 

1. Huey at Skalisky Island

2. Mi-17 at Devils Castle

3. Black Littlebird at Black Mountain

4. Silver Littlebird at NEAF.

[Magaz97 41]

Because It's My Story. And my story has helis in it.

I think you will find that it doesnt. It may have in the future though :)

[Etherimp 1323]

In my countless hours of playing the Mod I can tell you that, in my experience, most DayZ players are not abusive douchbags. This doomsday prediction that you're trying to sell me didn't happen. I can speak for the many squads I ran with. Just because we saw a camp doesn't mean we landed and touched it. Most guys I played with wouldn't have any of that type of bullshit and I believe with all my heart that most DayZ players are of like mind. This is not conjecture, this is my real life experience with hundreds of DayZ players, both as squadmates, playing with server regulars and communities ( BMRF PCGN etc ) and Admins.

I've already mentioned the counter play in this topic. I've been shot down, I've crashed and died or heavily damaged the heli and had to hoof it out on foot. I've been shot down many times. I've been ambushed and had it stolen. What more do you need?

Also, after final release, there will be a limited number of helis and Dean mentioned they would be much tougher to fix and maintain (at least I think it was Dean who said that) so you're correct, the Stansalone ISN'T the Mod so people are going to have to be much more careful what they use the heli for and I don't believe for one minute that they're going to risk a heli to destroy your can of beans. It just doesn't make sense.

I'm not a supporter of the " there might be an Abuser, so let's take this feature out of the game" cause. Let's just agree to disagree.

 

 

You can call me an abusive douchebag all you want. There's clearly nothing anyone is going to say that is going to change your mind. You want helicopters in the game. That's fine. Just don't join the server I'm a regular on, because my squad will have the helicopters and we will be abusive douchebags with them. We'll fly all over the map scooping up all of the unique loot spawns (heli-crashes).. We'll be the first ones to loot NWAF an whatever other high value military loot spots. We'll hunt down your camps and we'll destroy any vehicles you manage to obtain.

 

Why? Because we're douchebags? No.. but because we're protecting our camp. If there are no vehicles on the map then nobody can find our camp. Our camp will be the biggest and the best on the server, and nobody will be able to touch it because we'll have eliminated any possible way for you to reach our camp other than by running 10k on foot.

 

Think you're going to shoot me down? Think again. I log on in the middle of the night while you sleep, because I work nights.. I'll fly around with my night vision and raid the entire map while you sleep, then happily park my helicopter back in my protected base, so you have no idea what happened to your vehicle or your camps, or who did it.. 

 

This sounds fun to you? This sounds like you have a way to counter-play what I'm doing? Okay! Bring them on. I'd like to see you try it. Even if I do log on during the day on the weekends, you won't shoot me down. Know how many times I've been shot down on Vanilla? ZERO.. not ever. And I've flown over Elektro and cleared out sniper hill a few dozen times with door gunners. 

 

We get it! You love Heli's and you want them in the game! Cool! I love heli's too! Just don't come crying on the forums when people are "abusive douchebags" with something that you want in the game.

[Karmaterror 982]

The server I played on was Vanilla, and in Vanilla the default # of Heli spawns was 4..

 

1. Huey at Skalisky Island

2. Mi-17 at Devils Castle

3. Black Littlebird at Black Mountain

4. Silver Littlebird at NEAF.

 

Ahh yes I remember some private hives had extra helis (also remember a bonus ground vehicle or 2 for them, like the police car)....but still said vanilla in description. They are hard to find, but you can find true vanilla servers still that don't use the extra private hive vehicles :)