Evil Minion 943 Posted July 29, 2014 The AR-15 on the vote is somewhat unfair as it technically includes the military versions. I voted "no" (for the civilian model) but for the military versions (M4 and newer gneration M16) it would be a "yes". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damnyourdeadman 1045 Posted July 29, 2014 I don't know if this has been suggested,but i found a preety intreasting weapon.The Armsel Striker shotgun which was designed in South Africa during 1981. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azzerrrr 52 Posted July 29, 2014 I should of posted not to flame or anything, but clearly you started the trend so i will attempt to end it. If you don't like what i put on this list then don't comment or stop reading it? Also, a lot of the firearms i have in there are civilian grade weapons. Didn't i say in the beginning that i was still working on the list? I am pretty sure i did. Please read more carefully next time and as for your COD reference, personally i think that game is complete horse shit. Again, please read carefully. Have a nice day sir.Don't listen to him bro! Those weapons you stated are awesome and would make an awesome addition!! I love the S&W Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Minion 943 Posted July 29, 2014 Wow - you really pulled a necro on a active and well visited topic. :lol: This fact should show that most people agree with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted July 29, 2014 The AR-15 on the vote is somewhat unfair as it technically includes the military versions. I voted "no" (for the civilian model) but for the military versions (M4 and newer gneration M16) it would be a "yes".Then I should of put Civilian AR-15 instead of just AR-15.The AR-15 I have on the list is intended to be viewed as a civilian model. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted July 30, 2014 Not many votes so far.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hombrecz 832 Posted July 30, 2014 It would make sense to add to Dayz because Ukraine is a neighboring country of Russia and Czechoslovakia (Czech Republic), and it would of been neighbors with Chernarus most likely, allowing for access to the handgun. Civilians would of most likely bought the firearm from a gun shop, rather than the police force of Chernarus adopting it as a service pistol.IMAGE: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Pistolet_fort_12_travmatik_com_1_by-sa.jpg I don't want to be annoying but Czech Republic does NOT border with Ukraine.It used to be the case in times of Czechoslovakia, but since 1992 there is Czechoslovakia no more and the Ukraine borders with Slovak republic instead. Btw if this was already mentioned earlier, then I apologize. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted July 30, 2014 I don't want to be annoying but Czech Republic does NOT border with Ukraine.It used to be the case in times of Czechoslovakia, but since 1992 there is Czechoslovakia no more and the Ukraine borders with Slovak republic instead. Btw if this was already mentioned earlier, then I apologize. I didn't mean to say neighbor in the context of "right next to" I should of used different wording, but thanks for the information. God Bless! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hombrecz 832 Posted July 30, 2014 I didn't mean to say neighbor in the context of "right next to" I should of used different wording, but thanks for the information. God Bless! No worries good man! I guess I'm bit touchy on this subject anyway :-D.I like most of the gun suggestions in here. Definitely would love more Eastern pistols and weapons in general. Oh and yes, I secretly hope for Sa vz.58 to appear even though Scubaman said, it's not distinctive enough compared to AK :-(.I believe it is distinctive enough both visualy and how does it sound. Also if devs implement more weapons simillar to M4 (M16, HK416 etc), than this argument will be moot. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedogfoodyayho 295 Posted July 30, 2014 I don't want to be annoying but Czech Republic does NOT border with Ukraine.It used to be the case in times of Czechoslovakia, but since 1992 there is Czechoslovakia no more and the Ukraine borders with Slovak republic instead. Btw if this was already mentioned earlier, then I apologize.Yeah, and in Arma 2 atleast, Chernarus actually shared borders with Russia, Kazakhstan and Bohemia's Takistan. The ocean is the Caspian Sea (How did they get an Aircraft carrier in there lol?). The terrain was based off the Czech Republic, but the country actaully had a backstory, it was part of the Russain empire and then a Soviet Republic. I really don't know why people think it's the Czech Republic (Not saying you do, just getting this out there) But with the New ammo types, heres a few guns that would work. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KP_m/44_submachine_gunThat's the Finnish 9x19mm M44 SMG, based off the Soviet PPS-43. As a 9mm it would fit well in the game. Theres even a Drum Magazine for it. http://www.ppsh41.com/finn.htmlThat's a 9x19mm conversion of the PPSh-41. Not sure how common they would be but, Its a PPSh.. The Germans also did this and Kits are available Today for civilians. http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1YM70This is an M70A, a 9x19mm TT-33 currently in production. Also, a lot of TT's have been converted to 9mm and China made some. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted July 31, 2014 I don't know if this has been suggested,but i found a preety intreasting weapon.The Armsel Striker shotgun which was designed in South Africa during 1981. That shotgun i used to love, thought it was the best firearm ever to be made. However, in reality, it is basically a hulking beast that takes to long to reload. In order to reload you must insert one shell at a time and turn the cylinder after each shell is inserted. This would prevent the user from reloading in the middle of an extremely bad firefight. Armsel Strikers are also one of the rarest shotguns you can get now a days because nobody wants it. Its good for "Street Sweeping" yes, but it will end up sweeping the user onto his/her ass from a hail of gun fire from the other side due to not being able to reload fast enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stielhandgranate 480 Posted July 31, 2014 Armsel Strikers are also one of the rarest shotguns you can get now a days because nobody wants it. Its good for "Street Sweeping" yes, but it will end up sweeping the user onto his/her ass from a hail of gun fire from the other side due to not being able to reload fast enough. I think that has more to do with legality issues. To own one in the US you have to have a $200 tax stamp and it is import banned. When other "Combat" shotguns like the Saiga or Vepr are available in larger numbers for lower costs the striker loses popularity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
agouti 105 Posted July 31, 2014 That shotgun i used to love, thought it was the best firearm ever to be made. However, in reality, it is basically a hulking beast that takes to long to reload. In order to reload you must insert one shell at a time and turn the cylinder after each shell is inserted. This would prevent the user from reloading in the middle of an extremely bad firefight. Armsel Strikers are also one of the rarest shotguns you can get now a days because nobody wants it. Its good for "Street Sweeping" yes, but it will end up sweeping the user onto his/her ass from a hail of gun fire from the other side due to not being able to reload fast enough. Exactly! Who wants to reload all that nonsense! You can buy 20 round drums for saigas and pop away all day. This game needs a saiga. With 5, 8, and 20 round mags. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stielhandgranate 480 Posted August 1, 2014 Exactly! Who wants to reload all that nonsense! You can buy 20 round drums for saigas and pop away all day. This game needs a saiga. With 5, 8, and 20 round mags. How about both? An imperfect weapon shouldn't be dismissed. A internal mag shotgun like the Striker is one that doesn't need five hours of mag hunting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted August 1, 2014 How about both? An imperfect weapon shouldn't be dismissed. A internal mag shotgun like the Striker is one that doesn't need five hours of mag hunting. The Armsel Striker would never be found in Chernarus... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stielhandgranate 480 Posted August 1, 2014 The Armsel Striker would never be found in Chernarus... There are several weapons that would never exist in in Chernarus or even exist in such large numbers as they are currently depicted in game. If anything the Striker could be a nod to the STALKER series like the 5.56 pistol from the fallout series is a nod to the movie blade runner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
agouti 105 Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) How about both? An imperfect weapon shouldn't be dismissed. A internal mag shotgun like the Striker is one that doesn't need five hours of mag hunting. Every gun that I or my family owns is stored with the magazine in it, next to it, or the weapon is in a holster with the magazine in the magazine slot in the holster made specifically for the gun. Outside of an armory, which there aren't any in this game, the gun should nearly always have the magazine in it or next to it. Remember the barracks are the sleeping quarters. I literally cannot fathom what was going through the mind of the devs when this was implements. Rocket said in the armory, the guns were never stored with the mags, but as I said, THERE IS NO ARMORY IN THE GAME. THIS IS A BEDROOM. THE GUNS ARE NOT STORED IN THE BEDROOM. THUS THEY WERE TAKEN BY A SOLDIER, and placed in the bedroom. Guess what? He'd probably have a mag in that. Oh wait, someone took the mags, but left the gun? You mean the springs and oiler kits and other tidbits likely to break or run out were also left behind and the gun is still functional? Nothing makes sense about this. In short, I never played the stalker series beyond the first one, and when the saiga was modded in, I always used the ecologist's special full auto saiga to rape the bloodsuckers and everything else. It was just nonstop firepower. Edited for grammar. Edited August 1, 2014 by agouti Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Gews- 7443 Posted August 1, 2014 How about both? An imperfect weapon shouldn't be dismissed. A internal mag shotgun like the Striker is one that doesn't need five hours of mag hunting. We already have a repeating shotgun with internal magazine inbound, no need to fill the game with a bunch of atypical weapons. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Minion 943 Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) There are several weapons that would never exist in in ChernarusWhich one exactly? In fact you cannot say this (for civilian weapons) because Chernarus is a fictional country and you don't know its excact specifics like gun laws, trade agreements etc. The games background has a US/NATO military operation and also a Russian one if I am not mistaken. So maybe the Longhorn seems a little odd but as a civilian firearm it could have been popular in Chernarus - here the exotic design helps as there aren't really that many "alternatives". Exotic military weapons are a very different topic as their trade is subject to a lot of regulations and thus a weapon that is only used by very few countries (such as the Armsel Striker) is very unlikely to be found in Chernarus. Edited August 1, 2014 by Evil Minion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stielhandgranate 480 Posted August 1, 2014 Which one exactly? In fact you cannot say this (for civilian weapons) because Chernarus is a fictional country and you don't know its excact specifics like gun laws, trade agreements etc. The games background has a US/NATO military operation and also a Russian one if I am not mistaken. So maybe the Longhorn seems a little odd but as a civilian firearm it could have been popular in Chernarus - here the exotic design helps as there aren't really that many "alternatives". Exotic military weapons are a very different topic as their trade is subject to a lot of regulations and thus a weapon that is only used by very few countries (such as the Armsel Striker) is very unlikely to be found in Chernarus. We know the Chernarussian military used Soviet era small arms and not AK-101s, a weapon that picked up no buyers or the that RAK is a version that did not gain any buyers as well. And the colt python was a request from r/dayz, probably because of it's status in the walking dead comic/tv show. If weapons like the Python,Longhorn or Blaze are in game a Striker is not too far fetched, considering as you say, Chernarus is a fictional country and you don't know its excact specifics like gun laws, such as importation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Minion 943 Posted August 1, 2014 So maybe the Chernarus militry had the AKM as service rifle until after the Sowiet Union collapsed and later decided to move to the AK-101? Python, Longhorn and Blaze are civilian firearms - so its reasonable (authentic) for the gunowners in Chernarus to buy them if they are well liked. Just as you would see a Makarow in the US for example. The Striker on the other side is military firearm than is rather sparingly used around the world so the probability of the Chernarus military using it is very low. And as a military firearm the probability of Chernarussian gunowners having them is low as well. Yeah its not zero - but still very close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wartzilla 182 Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) We know the Chernarussian military used Soviet era small arms and not AK-101s, a weapon that picked up no buyers or the that RAK is a version that did not gain any buyers as well. And the colt python was a request from r/dayz, probably because of it's status in the walking dead comic/tv show. If weapons like the Python,Longhorn or Blaze are in game a Striker is not too far fetched, considering as you say, Chernarus is a fictional country and you don't know its excact specifics like gun laws, such as importation.Revolvers are more popular than you might think in Europe. Some countries have specific competition classes for wheelguns, which means there's more than a few of them. Granted, not as wide-spread as they are in the game, but details schmetails. I'll grant you the longhorn, because pistol hunting is banned in many countries, but I'm sure it's allowed in several European countries and would definitely be possible to find in those. I don't know about the Czech Republic but it's got one of the best gun law regimes in Europe. As for the Blaze, double rifles are some of the most popular hunting weapons on the continent, along with combination guns. You can't use that as an example, in an apocalypse they would be everywhere. The Striker is an extreme niche firearm which was never adopted anywhere and has only ever been a civilian weapon in America (before it was banned there too). It's an extremely unlikely firearm to find, and seeing it in-game would be jarring. Like suddenly finding a pilotable Apollo moon lander or some shit. Edited August 1, 2014 by wartzilla Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) Poll will be taken down on Monday, August 4th, 2014 (8/4/14) at around 8:30pm Eastern U.S. Time Make sure you cast your votes! God Bless! Edited August 4, 2014 by AlexeiStukov Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DURRHUNTER 597 Posted August 2, 2014 No one has voted against the SVT-40 :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted August 2, 2014 Nobody voted against the Vz. 58And then there's that ONE person that votes against the Tula Toz-122 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites