An Issue with the New Spawns AKA "The Kamyshovo Massacre"

[Chronos Blackburn 149]

We don't have clan tags, but all the members of our group are senior staff on a big arma2 life server, and as such we are part of a clan/community, but it doesn't carry over into dayz.

On dayz we verbally identify ourselves to people as the DayZ Hero Society -town name- Medical Division.

 

What are a couple of your guys in-game names?

 

If you want to fight some guys that are equally as geared as you let me know, all my guys wear the [WCO] tag, were always actively hunting bandits and you guys seem like a good next target.

[dayzhopeful 30]

Sounds like the same issue warz was doing at the beginning. Ok... why not testing it here also. <_<

I never played warz because i had my sights set on this game, i dodged a bullet apparently. It amazes me that companies never learn from past mistakes.

[Propulsion_Joe 97]

You should try using large amounts of morphine on someone. The description says that it can cause...addiction? I would like to know if that's really true. Also, will the comsumption of painkillers and antibiotics cause ill effects on healthy people? How long it takes for a person to bleed to death if he's only hit once with a fireaxe and not bandaged? How many m4/mosin bodyshots do you need to kill a healthy person? You have to do your medical experimentation thoroughly or you are just a bunch of quacks :P

Bleeding out can take quite awhile. One subject took several minutes to die after a few axe shots to the torso. We test all sorts of equipment. We try to keep firearms as a last resort because it is so plain and can draw unnecessary attention.

[ninjacalypse 551]

Im so glad you actually did that.

 

Now lets put this to bed.

 

You have just linked me lots of posts about people asking about the new spawn system. I am not asking about the new spawn system i am posing a few issues with the new system. These questions have NOT been asked in any of those threads you just linked so yet again this thread is unique and what you have linked me is a load of old rubbish. When did i say the new spawns were inconvenient to me, lets not start lying shall we. All the towns along the east coast are empty, all of them. And they are all empty because 30 people have been through them before you. Again your not actually reading the OP are you, you dont actually have a clue what this thread is about do you?

 

Actually, the exact same things were discussed across many of those threads.

 

And the only actual question you asked in your OP was this:

"Did no one working on this patch even think about spawn killing, clearly not by the looks of things"

 

I can't answer rhetorical or literal questions posed to the development team for you.  Although, after asking the question, you then proceeded to answer it for yourself.  If you want to contact the development team directly, you should leave feedback here:

http://feedback.dayzgame.com

 

You said, "All the towns along the east coast are empty, all of them. And they are all empty because 30 people have been through them before you." ...which means they weren't empty to begin with were they?  Try a low-pop server or a server that advertises "Restarts every X hours" in their name, which numerous servers do.

 

Otherwise, you should go back and read through some of the discussion on those threads, especially the ones with multiple pages of discussion because yes, these things have been discussed already.

 

It's obvious you're sad you're not spawning near Balota anymore. This is a direct quote from your "real beginner's guide for new players"

 

"Once you think you know where you are on the map and you are comfortable with what direction you can travel in you need to start heading toward the airport at balota. This is where the majority of the best gear and weapons are on the south coast and also is not far from a military base, also full of all that fancy gear that everyone has but you can not seem to find.

If you can master this route that almost all dayz veterans take you will find yourself really starting to enjoy the game after a couple of deaths and you will understand why people like it so much."

 

So, your advice to new players is to figure out what direction they're facing and then immediately go to Balota.

 

You have been repeatedly criticizing other people in the forums and claiming that everyone refuses to listen to your constructive criticism and yet you fail to listen to anyone else's, even when they're genuinely trying to help you and steer you in the right direction.

Edited January 1, 2014 by NeedsFoodBadly

[wgaf 251]

What are a couple of your guys in-game names?

 

If you want to fight some guys that are equally as geared as you let me know, all my guys wear the [WCO] tag, were always actively hunting bandits and you guys seem like a good next target.

To be honest, we aren't really interested in fighting people at the moment, and it would be bad for us to help people who mean us harm to track us down.

But the benighted town of kamyshovo, on whichever server it was where we exterminated so many victims, could certainly have used your help today.

[DemonGroover 8836]

To be honest, we aren't really interested in fighting people at the moment .....

 

Sorry, just had to laugh at this.  Have some ironic beans.

[wgaf 251]

Think i got something like 200+ kills to 0 deaths. They where zombies so a little more challenging :P

 

I don't like what you do, but the games lets you, so no problem there. what i do see is a lack of imagination and skill. 

 

as you play more you may get better and try something a bit more interesting, but this is the level you play at for now. you have your fun:P

We're very skilled at organizing and gearing up our group, picking a location, securing it, spotting candidates for extermination, making contact, convincing them of our good intentions, shepherding them back to the appropriate area, convincing them to allow us to administer extermination doses and perform medical experiments, then completing their extermination, while at the same time safeguarding our own group members' lives.

We have almost no interest at all in getting into or winning firefights.

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Still now no one died of my group.

Someone explain the new spawn mechanic please? What changed? Details? Number of spawnpoints?

What changed guys? Two spawnpoints left?

[wgaf 251]

Kamyshovo, cap Golova maybe? Maybe solnichny, and I think still novy sobor. And can confirm elektro.

[Propulsion_Joe 97]

Sorry, just had to laugh at this.  Have some ironic beans.

We are interested in scientific research first and foremost.

[Sooden 301]

We're very skilled at organizing and gearing up our group, picking a location, securing it, spotting candidates for extermination, making contact, convincing them of our good intentions, shepherding them back to the appropriate area, convincing them to allow us to administer extermination doses and perform medical experiments, then completing their extermination, while at the same time safeguarding our own group members' lives.

We have almost no interest at all in getting into or winning firefights.

 

I can understand you don't want to get into fight, nether do I, but you put what you do under the guise of RP. Surly you would also be trying to find out how the strong, more successful survivors manage to get all 'kitted', find out what makes them special? This could lead you to interesting breakthrough in your research (that's RP with imagination and skill).

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Kamyshovo, cap Golova maybe? Maybe solnichny, and I think still novy sobor. And can confirm elektro.

 

Thanks.

And this result on all servers in spawn camping? Sorry, have no clue whats going on atm.

Edit: ... testing it myself...

Edited January 1, 2014 by NoCheats

[Propulsion_Joe 97]

We will go so far to convince people of our good intentions that I have fed starving people and bandaged bleeders only to see them experimented on and terminated minutes later.

[dayzhopeful 30]

 

 

"Once you think you know where you are on the map and you are comfortable with what direction you can travel in you need to start heading toward the airport at balota. This is where the majority of the best gear and weapons are on the south coast and also is not far from a military base, also full of all that fancy gear that everyone has but you can not seem to find.

If you can master this route that almost all dayz veterans take you will find yourself really starting to enjoy the game after a couple of deaths and you will understand why people like it so much."

 

So, your advice to new players is to figure out what direction they're facing and then immediately go to Balota.

 

 

Yes it is. Sorry is your advise different. Going north is for players who know where they are going not for new spawns to run endlessly through a forest. I learned how to play this game not by running north but by heading to bolota and learning the ropes first, yeah my advise is to head to bolota for new spawns until they learn how to play the game. but that in no way implies that I MYSELF just want to head to bolota does it ??

 

I love how you cry the helper while trying to twist my words against me. It wont work with me because you cant help me you have nothing new to tell me, instead you recycle the same lines as everyone else on the forum.

[wgaf 251]

I can understand you don't want to get into fight, nether do I, but you put what you do under the guise of RP. Surly you would also be trying to find out how the strong, more successful survivors manage to get all 'kitted', find out what makes them special? This could lead you to interesting breakthrough in your research (that's RP with imagination and skill).

There is a very limited amount of gear in the game at the moment, it's not hard to figure out the optimal stuff.

This may change in the future (I hope it does!) but the people with the best gear get it by server hopping at military areas, firehouses, hospitals, and the locations where press vests spawn.

Edited January 1, 2014 by HCHellCaptain

[dayzhopeful 30]

Actually, the exact same things were discussed across many of those threads.

 

And the only actual question you asked in your OP was this:

"Did no one working on this patch even think about spawn killing, clearly not by the looks of things"

 

I can't answer rhetorical or literal questions posed to the development team for you.  Although, after asking the question, you then proceeded to answer it for yourself.  If you want to contact the development team directly, you should leave feedback here:

http://feedback.dayzgame.com

 

Read the original thread, i have edited so you can better understand what i was asking.

 

I did not answer that question what i said and yet again you have tried to twist my words was it looks as if they never thought about it, i never said they did not. Learn grammar if you want to be a dick about it.

[dayzhopeful 30]

 

It's obvious you're sad you're not spawning near Balota anymore. This is a direct quote from your "real beginner's guide for new players"

 

even when they're genuinely trying to help you and steer you in the right direction.

I rarely ever venture near balota anymore it can be a death trap, stop trying to pretend that you know how i play.

[Sooden 301]

There is a very limited amount of gear in the game at the moment, it's not hard to figure out the optimal stuff.

This may change in the future (I hope it does!) but the people with the best gear get it by server hopping at military areas, firehouses, hospitals, and the locations where press vests spawn.

no,no,no. I don't mean how do they do it in the game. I mean in RP. The new spawns seem to be part of your RP and how they end up being there is not important to you. Why can't you Include kitted people in your RP? Doesn't matter how their got the kit (But I wish server hopping was fixed), in an RP sense, they are successful survivors. And I am sure they will be at the same level of willingness to be part of your RP as the new spawns you murder.

 

But nice try at justifying your action :P

[aussiebobby 82]

600k of units sold and 45k max ever players online.

Alot of player must be putting to game down..keep up the good work HCHellCaptain

Edited January 1, 2014 by AussieBobby

[Propulsion_Joe 97]

Each member of the medical division knows there is a chance they could die in noble combat. But our objective is not winning gunfights. It is experimentation and extermination of all humans on the coast. We are looking forward to the inclusion of new equipment as the game progresses, as well as the ability to craft and cook. Of course you know you can count on us to report the medical benefits of these things as they become available.

[aussiebobby 82]

Each member of the medical division knows there is a chance they could die in noble combat. But our objective is not winning gunfights. It is experimentation and extermination of all humans on the coast. We are looking forward to the inclusion of new equipment as the game progresses, as well as the ability to craft and cook. Of course you know you can count on us to report the medical benefits of these things as they become available.

 

 

 

 

 

My experiment is to stop feeding trolls and put them on a diet.. The Iggy list

Edited January 1, 2014 by AussieBobby

[Rissou 42]

Kamyshovo is the worst possible spawn to ever get, Everytime I spawn there I go and jump off a cliff. I think this group is doing a good job at mercy killing.

[DamnDialUp 4]

Whats this Medical Division? I want a part in it.

[HIHBGaming 14]

We've genuinely tried to help you with what you want to discuss but apparently you're beyond help.

 

I highly suggest that you learn how to properly use a forum, not just to try and seek attention, not to up your post count but to actually offer some constructive additions to already active discussions.

That's all the input I can muster in this thread.

[dayzhopeful 30]

We've genuinely tried to help you with what you want to discuss but apparently you're beyond help.

 

I highly suggest that you learn how to properly use a forum, not just to try and seek attention, not to up your post count but to actually offer some constructive additions to already active discussions.

That's all the input I can muster in this thread.

But that is no input at all. 'not to up your post count but to actually offer some constructive additions'

 

So what are you adding to the original post that's constructive, what have any of you added in the last five posts.

 

Nothing.