Dean - Sort it out man. Losing your way

[mercules 1290]

All the video's we've seen as of late have had a gay looking 13year olds dream mask... Fucking gay as fuck!

I asked my homosexual friend to be sure but he doesn't not believe the mask looks anything like himself. 

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All the video's we've seen seem to be aimed at childish gamers who dont really understand the concept of realism.

I see your point. I don´t want WarZ style also. It depends all on rarity. When I see someone I must be surprised about that after knowing the games for weeks.

Edited December 3, 2013 by NoCheats

[OrLoK 16186]

Hello there

 

Bringing the topic back to the masks in general.

 

Although im not a fan of the payday one (it is nicely done though) I dont think its really something to get hung up on and AFAIK doesnt represent a switch to a TF "hat" model.

 

To me its just a bit of "fun" and also remember things like that may not even make it into the public release.

 

The fact we can have "masks" though, does mean another placeholder for a "facial object" which means more customisation, which surely must be a good thing?

 

Rgds

 

LoK

Edited December 3, 2013 by orlok
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[Thegoon84 54]

Hello there

 

I'm not a fan of the "Pay Day" mask either, but I dont lower myself to casual homophobic slurs to protest against it.

 

Please refrain from using them as they are not tolerated here.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

 

You're totally right, for that i apologies. Sadly in this day and age "gay" is not seen as a direct reference to homosexuality!

No offence was intended ;)  

[Thegoon84 54]

EDIT to childish ill informed comment :D Sorry guys

[Thegoon84 54]

Hello there

 

Bringing the topic back to the masks in general.

 

Although im not a fan of the payday one (it is nicely done though) I dont think its really something to get hung up on and AFAIK doesnt represent a switch to a TF "hat" model.

 

To me its just a bit of "fun" and also remember things like that may not even make it into the public release.

 

The fact we can have "masks" though, does mean another placeholder for a "facial object" which means more customisation, which surely must be a good thing?

 

Rgds

 

LoK

 

I can see why people/players would like this idea, but looking at it from a complete concept, i think its NAFF!!! Its more (as some one pointed out above) WARZ like!

Tell me, no doubt we're all walking dead fans? When was the last time you saw Rick or the governer running round in a poxy mask?

I think Dean needs to take a step back and look at what Dayz stands for - Realisum, believability, and survival. Dont over complicate things that dont need to be

[colekern 1364]

is fair point, for sure mask taking only one guy few hours

 

why they don't model more gun or item important for dayz like item for survive?

 

I don't think this mask delay SA release date but is maybe something to do after release   :|

 

Because then they have to set up the vectors for the attachment system, then they have to make it so that you actually hold the gun right, holster the gun right, reload correclty, program the damage, capacity, range, etc., which takes more time than a model that only needs one or two lines of code.

[wild_man 4442]

Because then they have to set up the vectors for the attachment system, then they have to make it so that you actually hold the gun right, holster the gun right, reload correclty, program the damage, capacity, range, etc., which takes more time than a model that only needs one or two lines of code.

 

is look like you know what you talking about more than me :)

 

I know dev guys working hard so maybe is just some fun for them like a joke present for rocket 'here rocket you loving payday 2 I make for you something' ;)

 

but like other guy saying is more warz feel not dayz feel :huh:

 

I hope is not going in the game or maybe is only 10 maximum for all server  :|

[Statik (DayZ) 2695]

Is it sad I noticed this was the Vybor bridge before I noticed the chicks in their undies?

[booyah 12]

Okay, here is my little bit.

 

1) Mask is not required to put this game out for the masses who are waiting, so shouldnt have been developed pre-completion

2) It is not actually impractical. I'm a 23 year old guy, and I could see uses of this mask. 

        - Surprise factor counts for a lot in fighting, if you see a guy with a mask like that, would you shoot or stare an extra second, thinking "WTF is that?!?!?"? That extra second could give the mask guy a chance to kill you.

3) Too late now. 

4) could be used to make stories in-game, which for me, is part of the reason I love this game before I have gotten to play it and start my own stories. (For example, think about all the videos of the guy playing "its raining, its pouring" while haunting people with his axe? I loved them ideas)

 

 

In conclusion, I believe this could have been apart of an update AFTER release of stand alone, to keep the game fresh and for people to have fun with the concept. 

[hogscraper 328]

I like way mask is going with underpants :D

 

sorry I be serious :|

 

in some way I agree with OP

 

mask is not need, is more important things need right now

 

rocket make delay for alpha but have time for copy mask from payday? :huh:

 

is true is making no sense, maybe invest time doing more important things ;)

This^^

Encapsulates what a lot of people are feeling right now. Delay the Alpha because you want it to work? Great. Show an update photo of a stupid ass mask and star spangled underwear? ...

[-Gews- 7443]

2) It is not actually impractical.

 

"La-dee-da, just resting here with my Mosin, not much  - WHOA what's that, a bright stars-and-stripes plastered clown mask moving through the bushes? Wait a minute, there's a guy attached to it. Huh, wouldn't have noticed him if he wasn't wearing that kinda dayglo fashion item."

 

"BANG"

 

 

Very impractical.

[dgeesio 1034]

Because then they have to set up the vectors for the attachment system, then they have to make it so that you actually hold the gun right, holster the gun right, reload correclty, program the damage, capacity, range, etc., which takes more time than a model that only needs one or two lines of code.

like the axe currently which is in the wrong hand facing backwards :lol:

[St. Jimmy 1631]

I want some Mad Max masks and suits

 

 

Edited December 4, 2013 by St. Jimmy

[dgeesio 1034]

I somewhat concur with the OP. I feel the mask does not fit the atmosphere and environment of DayZ.

the mask doesnt fit its just a im trying to add cool shit for teens when thats the exact opposite pureists want. people often crow about this game being made for the core of dayz well most wont want that shit . tf2 hats lol cool when you 8 ! :lol:

[dgeesio 1034]

I want some Mad Max masks and suits

 

always looked a bit gay in that film :lol:

[mercules 1290]

Yes... they delayed the game so that Rocket could get the Payday mask in. Anyone sensing sarcasm in my voice?

They most likely have someone who is working on textures for gear and when he said, "What should I do next." someone said, "Maybe come up with some masks or something to cover the face?" and Rocket went, "Oh.. I love Payday." at some point. Then there was the, "Hey, I wonder if I can do that, that would be pretty cool." and it is done. Now this is a person who ISN'T working on the network bubble or the login process and is not involved in anything holding the release up. This is someone who now finds he has the basic things they need in there textured and can make frivolous things and so is doing so. 

[Rage VG 4033]

In my opinion, as long as it can be argued as somewhat practical and/or isn't very impacting, I'm okay with it. A mask is easily something you can argue there being a use in (Identity concealment), and I can argue that it will probably have little to no impact on the game outside of its cosmetic value. The design on the mask makes almost no difference, so arguing over whether it should have a payday reference or not is just semantics.

 

When he starts adding things like that rainbow-farting pony from Saint's row or a Nosferatu cape, then I feel that's going over the line.

[krihelion 175]

nevermind the fact the game looks like complete garbage

Edited December 4, 2013 by Krihelion

[Tempus (DayZ) 1062]

Well, these kinds of masks are added as easter eggs – and honestly it's the purpose of these things to break immersion.

 

To me personally, it really depends on the game with those. In something like Fallout or Grand Theft Auto, where there is a very cynical, satirical feel to things, easter eggs and references don't annoy me at all, I quite enjoy them. But if games appear to be very serious, no-nonsense or realistic, the silliness of immersion-breaking easter eggs annoys me more than anything else as I don't want to be taken out of the game like that.

 

There's nothing confirmed about the addition or rarity of these masks and there are more important things to get worked up over, so it doesn't need to be dramatized. However, I do hope the overall feel of DayZ standalone (not regarding mechanics or gameplay) won't diverge from that of DayZ mod too much.

[rocket 16567]

I suppose I can understand why someone might not like it. We discussed this kind of thing.

 

In the aftermath of the Christchurch Earthquake I saw some photos of guys robbing a place wearing those horse head things. What we want to do is add content. Payday is also a product we feel very strongly about, it's something we all really like and we wanted to honor it as a product. We wanted to put masks in game not only for hiding identity individually, but to allow the players to gain some kind of group identity if they wanted. It's another thing to: find, trade, or treat as junk.

 

With or without the masks, someone is going to find/do something that you don't like in the game. Someone is going to run around electro naked, with a radio blaring "Never Gonna Give You Up". There's no way (nor should there be) for us to enforce exactly how someone plays the game. We're also not always thinking "what would be in Chernarus, for reals" because that is not the game we are making. There are many people playing the game for many reasons - and it is this great variety of reasons that I believe adds a the unique character to the game.

[wild_man 4442]

 Someone is going to run around electro naked, with a radio blaring "Never Gonna Give You Up".

 

rocket taking my idea :|

[john@thesmileyone.co.uk 7]

Anyone remember the Walking Dead guys flying helicopters or raiding peoples bases or going on killing spree's like TFU does?

Can't base a game on a TV show, especially when the zeds are 4x as fast and 100x as intelligent :P

 

Other than that, I agree!

I've been a huge supporter of Dean/Rocket throught all this. I felt he's the man for the job in taking Dayz to the next level.

As you may or may not be able to tell, i 've not posted in a long time. However after a recent video/image appeared i felt the need to:

THIS: https://twitter.com/24VictorKane/status/407916336577118208/photo/1/large

Dont get me wrong whats going on around looks great. However that stupid pointless mask if quite frankly bloody awful. I understand its from Payday, great. But sorry it lowers the standard of Dayz. Why would someone post apocalypse run around with that type of mask on, bandits yes. You're really reaching now and throwing in idea's which are based on YOUR own personal choice! Anyone remember Rick, The governer or anyone out of The Walking Dead putting on a pathetic mask?

Quite frankly its completely lowered feel of the game for me! Its seems too Arcadey just by that one image.

I know i'm going to get alot of hate from this, i just hope people at least take a step back and look at how COPYING game props will improve the experience!

Please please please just stop with all this "throwing stuff in because you liked it in another game"... Take inspiration, dont just copy it....... Just Look at what WE want in the game and see how it best suits your vision. that is a better starting point. When has anyone asked for stupid poxy masks?

[brzator47@gmail.com 524]

That mask alone makes the screenshot look very... WarZ-esque for some reason. It's not a big deal but I agree it looks out of place and don't really see any practical purpose in having those in the game. What exactly is the point of trying to hide our in game identity?

[Tempus (DayZ) 1062]

We're also not always thinking "what would be in Chernarus, for reals" because that is not the game we are making. There are many people playing the game for many reasons - and it is this great variety of reasons that I believe adds a the unique character to the game.

 

Fair enough. A great variety of people playing the mod right now has led to a plethora of different maps, mods of the mod and general ways of playing the mod, though, somewhat losing focus of vision. I think a lot of players are looking forward to a more no-nonsense, down-to-earth and survival-heavy focus of the standalone, which seems to be generally confirmed by devs and testers. Those people might be confused by the addition of seemingly goofy and immersion-breaking items I suppose, as it just contradicts their expectations of the standalone's shifted focus.

 

Either way, I'm excited to see how it'll turn out in the end!