announcement about usage of my addons in dayz mods: I DO NOT ALLOW AND DO NOT WANT my addons in dayz mods

[vilas@o2.pl 13]

as I seen many many dayz mods using my addons (vilas_aks, vilas_wwp, vilas_npl, vilas_cpl, vilas_police, vil_characters, p85_wpn3d, p85_cars) and earning money on my addons, 

 

I want to state that I do not want my addons to be used among dayz mods, because of you (different mods) i stopped addonmaking after 9 years of doing it, because you (dayz moders) started to earn money on not what you ddi, but what i did, 

 

my addons are for example:

- Russian weapons packs (AKMS, AK107, AK12, AN94 "Abakan", AEK971, SVU, SVDS, SVDM, 9A91, AS VAL, etc. etc. Zastava rifles, Romanian PSL sniper rifle ) packed into vilas_aks, 

 

- west weapons as M14, M21, HK G3, different HK 36, HK416 (vilas_wwp), 

 

- civilian cars as: Hello Kitty Smart, Alfa Romeo, BMW7, Skoda Octavia, KIA Ceed SW etc. ,

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8959/wikisma.jpg

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/9185/icofobia.jpg

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/9099/wikikia2.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1156/polalfac.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/411/wikibmw.jpg

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/705/lubfre.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1098/civvw.jpg

 

 cars from cold war era from 80s, 70s, 

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9901/vaz2107.jpg  http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3997/zukrk.jpg

fire rescue and ambulances etc. 

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7692/wikspr.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/716/plsp1.jpg

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/2488/wikfl.jpg

+

 

- P85 addons (USSR, US in woodland, Bundeswehr from 80s),

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1488/gaz69.jpg

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/8606/uazamb.jpg

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2164/man630.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6378/un1300.jpg

 

- some WW2 weapons i made for W39 mod as Mauser 98K, Mosin rifle, 

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8505/p85smeis.jpg

 

 

also things that I allowed to Arma2 BUT NOT dayz as van Lublin etc. 

 

you collect money from using my addons, not good, the only dayz mod allow to use my addons is Origins which shares donations with me , other mods must organize /state with me conditions of use cause they are taking donations (money) and me as creator has nothing of it, 

if my addons will be still used for money i will have to look for legal solution against those who earn money on what i made, only Origins mod is since now allowed to use my content

 

sorry moderators - i didnt know where to put it, but since i read on forums people who editing other people addons (like islands, like edited Lingor units etc) i must put it somewhere, i know it is not Open Dayz forum, but here also are people doing so probably or atleast  annoucing their mods (with my content) and collecting money from it 

 

i even heard in past sentence "what is publish on Armaholic is an opensource" said by one dayz moder, ADDONS ARE NOT OPENSOURCE, THEY ARE FREEWARE BUT NOT OPENSOURCE TO EDIT AND ADDONS ARE NOT TO MAKE MONEY BY THIRD PARTIES (NOT CREATOR) !!! the only person who can earn money on my models and textures is me 

 

Vilas - moder since 2004 for Operation Flashpoint, Arma1, Arma2 but probably not anymore due to all what happens with my addons which were made to be played without money in military Arma 

Edited October 22, 2013 by vilas

[beno_83au 11]

:( Well, that'll suck. I've used your packs to flesh out content for my missions since OFP......

[Mayuyu 411]

I know on the Musty Gaming servers we have the Hello Kitty smartcars. I don't add anything to the server, but I'll let those who do know about this thread.

Sorry to hear your troubles.

[Inception. 9443]

I have brought this to the attention of the moderators, for it seems to be a somewhat rather large problem.

[DemonGroover 8836]

I hope you got permission to use and monetize (with Origins) your addons from Yuko Shimizu (Sanrio), the creator of Hello Kitty?

Edited October 22, 2013 by DemonGroover

[terrvik 2409]

Don't you need license to use any brand, like the cars (Alfa Romeo, BMW and so on) or the weapons. Sure most games buys licenses for the guns or call them something else.

 

Also could someone give me a quick crash course on how making money modding or creating addons for another company's game is allowed? I'm surely just not informed enough so please educate me!

 

Lastly all this is pretty ironic considering all the alleged shadiness of Origins to start with.

 

EDIT:  Not trying to discredit anyone by the way. Credit should always be where credit is due. Just saw this as a way to ask about stuff I'm not very educated on.

Edited October 22, 2013 by Terrorviktor

[Spikér 136]

while i agree that credits should always be given for any data used in what ever form, why am i not surprised that the Origin name has cropped up again? I mean, i'm sure they are doing in some way/shape/form what you are telling other moders to not do.

 

But, to make money from other peoples work imho is yeah, totally wrong.

 

Origins..... the amount of bad things ive read about them on reddit..... no smoke with out fire and all that!

Edited October 22, 2013 by Spikér

[vilas@o2.pl 13]

you must buy license from brand when you make pay-ware intended to sale (game, not mod), when you make mod Terrorviktor you do not need, when i make VBS addons (those cars for example were earlier made for VBS , than i remove brands in VBS and they are "coupe, seat, combi" not Mercedes, VW Passat, Kia Ceed") so it looks different for GAME (as standalone) and for MOD , addon etc. (like GTA addons of cars)

 

Addons for ARMA are freeware addons (mod) which are intended to be used for free in Arma2, problem is that lots of dayz mods are making money on free addons, they make :

- big server payments, 

- pay-win content (to start game with M4A1 instead of Makarov pistol) 

- make hacks "vip mode, god mode" for money, 

i seen in internet guys who wanted to charge money from players for playing my addons, 

 

everything would be okay if those mods were not collecting money, if they were just free pure fun gaming like it used to be in past, when players were not paying to use addons which supose to be free or if someone donates MOD than creators of content should be donated, 

not the way "mister X made addon, mister Y collects money for playing it"

 

everyone can play addons in Arma2 FOR FREE, but when i see mod makers collecting money on stuff they not made (guns, vehicles) i get angry, especially when it stops me from doing addons (cause when i release addon, soon it is put in few dayz mods who start to collect money on it) 

 

i understand donations for creators, i do not accept donations for third parties like persons using addons without even asking me before 

 

regarding Origins - in this mod content which is used is made by authors and team (models, weapons, island) not made by others who were not even asked (like i was not asked about use of my work by dozens of dayz mods which use it )

 

every mod can use its own content (models, textures, scripts, configs, maps) but using other people content to collect donations is somehow not good, cause orginal author not made it for others but for himself (like for example guys making weapons for mod X made weapons for mod X not for mod Z or Y) 

 

my addons were made by me and i wanted to say that i have right to decide about my own work and not others 

Edited October 22, 2013 by vilas

[theszerdi 50]

1) Are you paying royalties for the use of BMW and other brand names/logos?

 

2) Are you paying royalties for the use of Arma engine?

 

3) Origins and Aftermath are the only mods charging money as far as I know.

[theszerdi 50]

There's a big difference between a locked mod selling exclusive hosting rights and a private server giving in-game items as donator perks. Especially if the private server is running a dedicated server and not a rental. My server cost $450 for the hardware and I pay about $150/month to keep it running. Any donations we receive (which do not give perks) go entirely to operating costs.

[Spikér 136]

 i understand donations for creators, i do not accept donations for third parties like persons using addons without even asking me before  

 

 

Agree 100% on this point

 

 regarding Origins - in this mod content which is used is made by authors and team (models, weapons, island) not made by others who were not even asked (like i was not asked about use of my work by dozens of dayz mods which use it )

 

 

So, in Origins, there is absolutely NO content taken from the DayZ core or anything else?

[SmashT 10907]

Have you tried contacting the mods that are using your content without permission and asking they remove it?

Edited October 22, 2013 by SmashT

[burritoman259 593]

Have you tried contacting the mods that are using your content without permission and asking they remove it?

Honestly I don't think many of them would want to due to them being the only thing keeping their mod fresh.

EDIT reason: Reworded it.

Edited October 22, 2013 by burritoman259

[RedNome 443]

Oh look, another modder/map maker getting in bed with Origins.

 

What a dirty little money grabbing community this has become.

Edited October 22, 2013 by RedNome

[r4z0r49 4761]

This has been an ongoing problem within DayZMod for sometime. As for origins to be allowed to use your stuff at least you got asked we didn't get asked when they created the mod :-(.

You might be able to contact Josh and Six and have the offending mods removed from both programs.

As i say this has become a massive issue with the DayZMod community and i really have no info to help you out.

[vilas@o2.pl 13]

okay i will contact Six and Josh, sad that some people here (not all for good) understand that author of model and texture has right to decide whom he gives his models and whom not , i was told few months ago by one moder from dayz "everything what is released in armaholic is opensource" and when i told him "not" he was confused and arguing with me cause for him freeware = opensource, 

 

regarding charging - in google i found several mods offering payment for playing content, like dayzhell for example, they offered playing with dayz epoch for money, dayz epoch use my cars, so it means that players would pay money to dayzhell for playing my cars in dayz epoch , not right for me

 

i am deep in arma military comunity, i didnt even know that dayz exists before half of 2013 (i cooperate and donate my models for few months, i do not play zombies, i prefer military simulation not zombies, vampires etc), while this time dozens of dayz mods already were anouncing "new 200 weapons, new 80 cars" after my addon update

Edited October 22, 2013 by vilas

[PK Richie 507]

 

the only dayz mod allow to use my addons is Origins which shares donations with me

Ahh now i get it, nobody else is paying you so you want money :rolleyes:

No doubt Origins put you up to this ? just like they did when they stopped Hicks releasing Taviana 3.0

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

I'm surprised it's taken this long for someone from the Arma community to speak up about it.  And you only just found out about DayZ recently?  Seems legit.  Nothing to do with Origins wanting exclusive rights to it I'm sure.

 

What a fekkin mess.

Edited October 22, 2013 by Fraggle

[vilas@o2.pl 13]

Ahh now i get it, nobody else is paying you so you want money :rolleyes:

No doubt Origins put you up to this ? just like they did when they stopped Hicks releasing Taviana 3.0

how anyone except Martin can release Taviana to hells sake ?

 

Taviana is island made by Martin (for 6 years since OFP buildings it is 7 years of his work), it belongs to Martin, noone other can have any rights to it 

 

Taviana belong to Martin, how ... can be person who not understand it ??? 

 

of course noone else except orginal author of addon (island in this case) can release updates

 

how can you even think that other person than addonmaker who made island can make updates to this island ???

 

if other person wants to make island, noone stops him, go ahead, visitor3 and 5 years of work on buildings and island, just like my addons belong to me (vilas_ ... .pbo, vil_... pbo, p85_... .pbo) and only i can update them 

 

p85 is for example 6 years of my work and i cannot imagine that some guy can say "i want make update it" 

 

 

if anyone wants cars, islands, weapons, units - go ahead there are BIS tools to make models, islands etc. 

in OFP i made 5 or 6 islands i know that one island can take half year of work so why anyone should give rights to give it just like that to be nicked by other persons ?

 

users with thinking like you killing addonmaking and modding 

Edited October 22, 2013 by vilas

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

users with thinking like you killing addonmaking and modding 

Are you sure it's not mods like Origins that use DayZ as a revenue stream that is killing addonmaking and modding?

[Spikér 136]

Are you sure it's not mods like Origins that use DayZ as a revenue stream that is killing addonmaking and modding?

 QUOTED FOR TRUTH!

 

Im sorry but when someone sides with Origins i refuse to take them seriously. In this case, i do agree with you on SOME points. But it seems Origins are are doing far worse ( read claims of them being behind DDOS attacks on none legit origin servers for one)

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/dayz/comments/1ecfve/criminal_actions_of_dayz_origins_developers/

 

Also, for reference of the ' origins is made by themselves comment

 

http://www.dayzorigins.com/

 

i wil even highlight the relevent part

 

 Welcome to Origins, the new ARMA II mod inspired and based on modified version of DayZ.

Edited October 22, 2013 by Spikér

[vilas@o2.pl 13]

do models and do textures and do maps youself instead of demanding from creators , tools are released by BIS, do your own addons , do your own map , just takes year or more of everyday few hours work 

[Spikér 136]

im not disputing that... Please re-read my comments and you will see that i agree with what you said on the following points

 

1) No money should be made from other peoples hard work.

 

2) Permission should always be obtained before using mods

 

3) Credits should always be given.

 

 

But, as has been stated before has Origins obeyed the 3 rules above too?

 

 

That's right.

[vilas@o2.pl 13]

please than read what other person said about releasing other version of Taviana , do you think it would be okay that guy nicked Hicks releases his Taviana ? 

[Spikér 136]

i don't know because i don't know who made what with regards to the Taviana. However, If someone contacted the original maker of Taviana and asked permission first and IF given permission made no money from it AND acknowledged the original creator then i would say of-course.  

 

 

However, i wont make any 'real' comments on the subject of the map as i don't know enough facts about it to make any statements. 

 

EDIT

 

Just re-read the Taviana 3.0 map comment.

 

i don't know who made the standard taviana map, but if it was not hicks and hicks did not get permission, then no he should not be allowed to release it. However, as I've already pointed out. You have thrown your lot in with Origins ( not flaming them or anything else) and as such, if they themselves do not follow the 3 BASIC rules, and you are seen to be accepting that by throwing your lot in with them. How do you expect anyone else to follow the rules? 

Edited October 22, 2013 by Spikér