beavis_5000 111 Posted October 12, 2013 Just wondering if people want a PvP SA or a hardcore Zombies SA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xucphra 453 Posted October 12, 2013 Why can't we have both? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beavis_5000 111 Posted October 12, 2013 Why can't we have both? I honestly dont think its possible. Its either going to be a competitve shooter or zombie game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xucphra 453 Posted October 12, 2013 I think it's probably going to stay the way it's always been - a zombie themed survival sandbox where you make what you want of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beavis_5000 111 Posted October 12, 2013 (edited) I think it's probably going to stay the way it's always been - a zombie themed survival sandbox where you make what you want of it. Im sure it will. Im just wondering if there are any other hardcore zombie fans who dream of a real Zombie apocolypse Survival game. Edited October 12, 2013 by electricfuneral Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeNguiN (DayZ) 10 Posted October 13, 2013 DayZ already has a meta of kill or be killed. Friendly people are 1 in 100 and lucky to find. Everyone wants a game oriented around zombies with some pvp but it's just not gonna happen. PvP is what endgame is so until there is a new idea about end game like basebuilding mixed with some sort of busywork to keep players doing something, then people are just gonna kill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h4yw1r3 64 Posted October 13, 2013 (edited) Just wondering if people want a PvP SA or a hardcore Zombies SA. Since there's no option for "Both", not going to bother with the poll. If I wanted PvP, I'd play Wastland or Warfare mission files, or one of any number of fps shooters that does PvP better. If I wanted purely a zombie survival game, I'd just play a single player game that handles it better. One without the other just doesn't cut it in my book. I want survival in a zombie appocalypse to be a stuggle, for zombies to be a threat, and that with the constant threat of PvP. Edited October 13, 2013 by H4YW1R3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wild_man 4442 Posted October 13, 2013 (edited) I choosing option c) more hardcore zombie swarm pvp base game :thumbsup: :P Edited October 13, 2013 by KoS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonesnap 75 Posted October 13, 2013 (edited) Needs more/harder zombies.. wandering hordes.. more infection/disease.. actual PvE threat.. :thumbsup: Does anyone remember the one patch where food spawns were so incredibly scarce, you were better off killing zombies for their canned food drops? It only lasted a few days.. But it was awesome.. in order to survive, you had to be noisy, which was risky and dangerous..those were the days. Edited December 21, 2013 by bonesnap 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aporis 422 Posted October 13, 2013 Why there is no option D: "Released" ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DemonGroover 8836 Posted October 14, 2013 The only way SA will be non PvP is if there are no weapons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OfficerRaymond 2064 Posted October 14, 2013 Wonder who voted PvP? *cough* Massicor *cough cough* dgeesio *cough cough* Oh wow. Excuse me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beavis_5000 111 Posted October 14, 2013 The only way SA will be non PvP is if there are no weapons. No doubt there will be some PvP, likely alot of PvP. But lets put that aside and still make this a hardcore zombie game. I'd like to see some Dawn of the Dead type zombies. Even with PvP I think zombies are what can really make this a good game. If they make this a true zombies game it may go down as one of the best games ever. Even as DayZ is it goes down as one of the best games ever imo. They make this a true Zombie Apocolypse, Survival, Horror then the PvP will be just an added bonus. And thats the way the PvP should be, just an added bonus that adds to the realism of the game. Of course there will be PvP but imo i hope its not the base of the game as it is now. At least make the zombie aspect as much of a base as PvP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sutinen 635 Posted October 15, 2013 I don't understand how making the zombies a threat is gonna make PvP pointless... Other players will always be the big threat. And outside loot spawns the only thing that can kill you is other players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mercules 1290 Posted October 15, 2013 I don't understand how making the zombies a threat is gonna make PvP pointless... Other players will always be the big threat. And outside loot spawns the only thing that can kill you is other players. There is a huge contradiction in your statement there. If the zombies are a threat then the other players won't be the "big threat". Why do I say this? How many zombies do you see and how many players? Zombies will be a lot of smaller threats but look to be much more of a threat in the SA as they can run while inside buildings and are supposed to have much better pathing allowing them to run you down and kill you. You won't be able to hide in a bush/pine tree or shoot them carefully as they slowly walk towards you in a building or go in one door and out the other and lose them. You will have to deal with them and they will be a threat and probably a more urgent threat because they will not be cautious like another player would be and there will be multiples to deal with. Also, it looks like you haven't checked out SA. Zombies will no longer spawn near loot. You can be anywhere and have a zombie wander into you. They will spawn on server start and then continue to spawn slowly as they are taken out. This means no more camping in a pine tree for hours outside of spawn areas sniping because a herd of zombies could walk up behind you without you being aware of it and swarm you when you fire. They look to be a persistent and active threat which will make certain ways of playing the game less viable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liquidmind 320 Posted October 15, 2013 I don't understand how making the zombies a threat is gonna make PvP pointless... Other players will always be the big threat. And outside loot spawns the only thing that can kill you is other players. Step 1: find a gun.Step 2: shoot at a playerStep 3: Run from 100 zombies attracted to your position until you die of starvation, zombie-bites, diseases or injuries.Step 4: Die, Return to Step 1 until you are bored with the game, then go to step 5.Step 5: either uninstall the game or start playing DayZ the way it's still fun. As a survival-game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas 5195 Posted October 15, 2013 A game that attracts PvP and PvE players equally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jamz 253 Posted October 15, 2013 I'd like to see the SA more survival centric, and the mod to go more towards pvp in parallel.Of course there should and will always be pvp as it is core to DayZ, but for the SA I want people to have to be always concentrating on not being swarmed or beaten to death at least as much as being shot...if not more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SalamanderAnder (DayZ) 1747 Posted October 16, 2013 False dilemma. We need zombies to be intense and difficult, and also allow PvP combat. The difficulty of the zombies will encourage people to group together. The PvP will allow the freedom for groups to combat potential enemies, and for our favorite mechanic, betrayal. This is all essential to the experience. It's not one or the other. The key is combining both in such a way as to optimize all forms of player interaction. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sutinen 635 Posted October 16, 2013 There is a huge contradiction in your statement there. If the zombies are a threat then the other players won't be the "big threat". Why do I say this? How many zombies do you see and how many players? Zombies will be a lot of smaller threats but look to be much more of a threat in the SA as they can run while inside buildings and are supposed to have much better pathing allowing them to run you down and kill you. You won't be able to hide in a bush/pine tree or shoot them carefully as they slowly walk towards you in a building or go in one door and out the other and lose them. You will have to deal with them and they will be a threat and probably a more urgent threat because they will not be cautious like another player would be and there will be multiples to deal with. Also, it looks like you haven't checked out SA. Zombies will no longer spawn near loot. You can be anywhere and have a zombie wander into you. They will spawn on server start and then continue to spawn slowly as they are taken out. This means no more camping in a pine tree for hours outside of spawn areas sniping because a herd of zombies could walk up behind you without you being aware of it and swarm you when you fire. They look to be a persistent and active threat which will make certain ways of playing the game less viable. Right.. And now tell me why other players with guns aren't a bigger threat than predictable zombies with no guns? The other players are still the big threat. And I do believe that loot spots will still have the most zombies. Few zombies in middle of a field are not more dangerous than a guy hiding in the treeline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnm81 15 Posted October 16, 2013 What will make this game great are the zombies. Look no further than project zomboid to see the PERFECT set up for zombies. They are slow shamblers and the come in HORDES. And you know what, its freaking difficult to survive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
machiavelli 38 Posted October 16, 2013 Its either going to be a competitve shooter....Wtf? I do not have any hope for the standalone if it peddles to this community garbage. PvP man! My squad is so leet! L2A!Seriously, go play cod. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mercules 1290 Posted October 16, 2013 What will make this game great are the zombies. Look no further than project zomboid to see the PERFECT set up for zombies. They are slow shamblers and the come in HORDES. And you know what, its freaking difficult to survive. Where is the vomiting smiley? Some people like "undead zombies" and some like "infected zombies" I prefer the later like those in "28 Days Later" and "Quarentine" since they are more probable(still extremely unlikely) than "undead zombies". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites