Darwin List: Banned Users

[NobodieCro 11]

i don't get it... how the autoban system works? and what i have to do to not be banned?

i don't know what weapon is in the mod or no' date=' i cant see if looted M16 or other weapon or item is cheated or no, i can't even know what will happen next to my inventory... because this is alfa. How should i know?

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If you're running a bunch of scripts that you shouldn't be running... the banhammer lands on your head.

Simply put, to avoid being banned, just play the game as it is without any extra stuff you might want. Just use the beta patch and DayZ and you'll be fine.

i wiil be fine when i will know how the system works and if i find some weapon on a dead body i will SEE that it is hacked...

Now the situation is... if i loot hacked beans from somebody's corpse i might be banned. You think its normal?

Most hackers always get like the best weapon you can get...and that's how you can spot them... If you take his beans it wont matter...

Usually , if you read the forums, they get banned for having infrared 50 cal etc...weapons that aren't even in the game..

[KOT3 (DayZ) 0]

Yesterday I saw on the LA server 3 as cheaters with smava shelled the city and themselves have died from the shots it has stunned them, and they died, I decided to go see snarezhenie and one I took a rifle m4a1 holo granotometom saw a bunch of boxes, but I could not even its open, and took a backpack from the corpse. This morning I went to the server and simply crazy "GLOBAL BAN" vooobsche FOR WHAT? My nickname Panda id 1167044

Where is the cheat?? I write almost every day of the video, I can put on youtube that you would have seen Rocket

[FatSephy 0]

ppl haven't paid for arma 2 and arma 2 oa just to be banned for no reason

innocent victims who don't know if a gun is hacked in don't deserve to lose there £20 or so if they bought the game for this mod

Whoa there buddy' date=' you've demonstrated a misguided line of reasoning here. Spending money on ArmA II does not entitle you to a single byte of Day Z data. You don't buy Day Z, you buy ArmA II, and an independent entity is in control of your ability to play Day Z.

Spending 30$/20£ on a game with the intent of playing a single mod is fine, as long as you understand that you have no rights for that mod, only revocable privileges. Players who are banned from Day Z are more than welcome to check out some of ArmA's other fine mods and missions.

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I appreciate that everyone posting is against cheating, that is a good thing. Cheats can ruin multiplayer games completely. But these bans are a global BattleEye ban as I understand it. You can't play ArmA2 either if you have been banned in DayZ. At least that is the way I read it. Correct me if I'm wrong? rocket did state these global BE bans essentially 'bricked' multiplayer ArmA 2 cd-keys.

Now I'm not advocating cheating at all, I don't believe in it, I think it's pretty sad to be honest, but this has gotten to the point where people need to start realising that these bans aren't something Bohemia should want to deal with since they're going to be forced to refund some people's money *if* they start asking for refunds (lets face it, none of them will anyway but the point is still valid).

As far as I am aware, there are no hacks in existence for ArmA 2 that reverse engineer or directly modify the files shipped with the game, which are the only stipulations in the EULA. If there are, then I'm am certainly mistaken, and those specific bans are well within the rights of the developer, any others however are not.

I'm all for protecting DayZ's integrity at such a crucial point in the mod's development.. I love the mod, but banning people's ArmA 2 CD-Keys globally from BattleEye for cheating in a mod in alpha *testing* is NOT the way to do it.

rocket.. I like your mod mate, I really do, you and your team have done a great job so far, and I trust you will continue to do so, but you are being a bit childish at the moment don't you think?

It just seems a bit like you're power tripping based on the way you have written your posts about people's ArmA 2 copies being bricked. You said it with such enthusiasm like it was an amazing triumph, even though there is no actual legal standing for it to be done that doesn't breach the licensor's (Bohemia Interactive) part of the EULA. The reason being, limited warranties are actually not legally upheld in many countries now, and all warranties implied or otherwise are handled in the country of purchase, not the country mentioned in the EULA (in this case Czechoslovakia).

End User License Agreements and Terms of Use law is dangerous waters these days, things really aren't how they used to be, you really need to look before you dive. You don't want to mess around with the FTC and the ACCC and similar agencies. It's no good for anybody.

In saying all that.. I'm fairly certain cheating players are not educated on any of these points, and none of this will even have an impact on Bohemia. I just don't like the way some people are behaving, dancing around with such glee in the posts on here. It says a lot about the state of the world when people don't even stand up for their rights, and just believe everything they are told by corporations.

Question everything, or you might aswell just lie down and wait to die now guys.

[Codus 22]

[...] I love the mod' date=' but banning people's ArmA 2 CD-Keys globally from BattleEye for cheating in a mod in alpha *testing* is NOT the way to do it. [...']

Arma II hacking has happened since Arma II was released. It was an issue back then and still is today. Same stuff happened when OA was released. Lots of people played OA and therefore a few hacked.

Now Arma II is famous for this fabulous mod and guess what :

All the old hacks still work. Lots of people play with the Arma II engine and what happens again?

Right. The % of hackers reappear. (There are always a base % of hack/cheat attempts in online games based on the community size)

So if you hack the Arma II game (what you do if you want to hack DayZ) then you need not to ponder that you are suddenly excluded from online gameplay of ALL Arma II games. Regardless if you just hack a mod or not.

The real valid point of this topic is that some of the hacking victims may have been banned as well, for just looting a weapon off a dead body.

This is collateral which sadly happens if you want to step up and drive the hackers away.

[FatSephy 0]

[...] I love the mod' date=' but banning people's ArmA 2 CD-Keys globally from BattleEye for cheating in a mod in alpha *testing* is NOT the way to do it. [...']

The real valid point of this topic is that some of the hacking victims may have been banned as well, for just looting a weapon off a dead body.

This is collateral which sadly happens if you want to step up and drive the hackers away.

That is the biggest issue I have. The rest brought it on themselves to be completely honest. But not everyone did, and that's not on at all as far as I'm concerned. Those with hacked items looted from others better not be global banned, or some money is rightly owed to those innocent parties.

[Fionny 7]

FOR CRYING OUT LOUD YOU DO NOT GET BANNED FOR PICKING UP A HACKED WEAPON.

YOU ONLY GET BANNED FOR ACTUALLY HACKING THE GAME IE SPAWNING IT IN ETC...

[NMEBowen 0]

ARMA II Combined operations - £25

Script that allows you to hack the game - £10

Tears beacuse you were globally banned by battleye - Priceless

[Joe Duck 11]

Since this I pretty much only got arma 2 to be able to play this mod I havent been playing the vanilla game much. I have pretty much no idea what kind of equipment to expect out of arma 2

I would really feel a lot more comfortable playing and looting other players if there was a sticky thread on the forums with weapons that are currently in the mod. If a player comes across any weapon or equipment that feels suspicious one can just check the thread to see if its on the list. Just to avoid confusion and ''innocent'' people getting permaban.

I would put up a list myself but as I said I have no idea what weapons are in the game

dayzwiki.com

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Yeah' date=' but is there any list of the weapons authorized in the game published by the devs ?

Except for the "cheat sheet", which is not that easily accessible, you don't know which weapons are supposed to be in the mod and which are not. For example, the M136 AT4 is supposed to be in it, but not the SMAW. But if you pick up a SMAW from a dead cheater, you get banned for that.

I'm not talking about the cheaters. Obviously, they have to be banned (and from every server, since they are linked by a main server: in a MMO, you get banned from the whole game).

I'm talking about the players who are not aware of every aspects of the mod and who thought they were lucky by finding the body of a cheater with a Mk16, and they get banned for that.

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dayzwiki.com

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1) There is no list of legit equipment

dayzwiki.com

I hate to be repetitive, really sorry. I guess I'll stop and make a simple, simple point. As a legit non banned player, I'd rather Rocket and the team spend their time developing the mod rather than documenting "official" answers to the endless questions people ask. The community can (and has, see for example dayzwiki.com) take care of documenting obvious things like a weapon list. It is a really weak line of defence, saying that you did not know if the weapon was legit or not and asking of something "official" is just pure whiny legalese crap.

[callousdisregard 2]

Everything I have read today states that you will get warned before you get banned for carrying illegal weapons. The bans issued were based on scripts running alongside ARMA, which AFAIK, is not something that happens by accident.

So all of you crying the crocodile tears for those banned "accidently" need to inform themselves on the subject.

Personally I think all of those people were hacking and are now here to proclaim their innocence or that of a "friend" who "just started playing" are totally full of shit and are truly reprehensible excuses for human beings.

The idea that anyone is going to get their money back is completely laughable.

You cheated and you knew you were cheating and now somehow you really think making up stupid stories is going to get your ban lifted.

Grow the fuck up

[Ander (DayZ) 530]

BE global bans is entirely different to the invalid item/weapon cleanup we're doing.

The "invalid" weapon removal is pretty noticable. You will simply find yourself without the shiny weapon you found/spawned/"accidentally" stumbled upon and have it replaced with a makarov. :)

If you're found several times to be carrying the invalid weapon - flags will start to be raised.

Rest assured that database level bans are just as carefully implemented as BE global bans.

Exactly the rate of checks, how the check is performed and how the account flagging system (separate from BE) won't be revealed for obvious reasons. The game is still early alpha so we hope that in the future we'll prevent the most common methods to get items that you are not entitled to.

/Ander

[GrabPatch 0]

Can we get a list of said "banned items" stickied to prevent any confusion? As a new player to Arma 2 and DayZ, I have no idea what items are "banned items" and quite honestly would hate to be banned for something I wasn't aware of, especially when I dished out $30 solely for the DayZ mod.

I tried to do a Google/forum search to find a list, but I can't seem to find them. Any help would be useful here.

[Shakakahn 23]

Can we get a list of said "banned items" stickied to prevent any confusion? As a new player to Arma 2 and DayZ' date=' I have no idea what items are "banned items" and quite honestly would hate to be banned for something I wasn't aware of, especially when I dished out $30 solely for the DayZ mod.

I tried to do a Google/forum search to find a list, but I can't seem to find them. Any help would be useful here.

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http://dayzwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Weapons

You're welcome. Although it has been posted multiple times on these forums.

[HIV (DayZ) 0]

Ok.

I got global ban, and i dont wanna say that i wasn't cheating. A lot of times i used my own script to spawn ammo box, and i got this lesson: cheats are bad, lol. I dont want to be banned again so I already bough a new copy of OA and have a question:

can i play with my old nickname? Of course without any scripts and other similar shit.

Is it safety and not the reason of possibility to be banned again?

[GrabPatch 0]

http://dayzwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Weapons

You're welcome. Although it has been posted multiple times on these forums.

Many thanks, bookmarked.

[MidnightRave 8]

The problem is, the big hackers aren't banned because its so easy to bypass BE bans(apparently to them). So all this did was ban everyone that was using public scripts or innocent people that were victims of the big hackers.

The big hackers spoof their GUID, so they seem like another player. So instead of themselves getting banned, another person does instead.

[Fionny 7]

Ok.

I got global ban' date=' and i dont wanna say that i wasn't cheating. A lot of times i used my own script to spawn ammo box, and i got this lesson: cheats are bad, lol. I dont want to be banned again so I already bough a new copy of OA and have a question:

can i play with my old nickname? Of course without any scripts and other similar shit.

Is it safety and not the reason of possibility to be banned again?

Fair play for owning up and not whining.

The bans are based on GUID I would think nicknames are not unique so you should be fine... im sure someone can confirm that soon.

[cuca 20]

Ok.

I got global ban' date=' and i dont wanna say that i wasn't cheating. A lot of times i used my own script to spawn ammo box, and i got this lesson: cheats are bad, lol. I dont want to be banned again so I already bough a new copy of OA and have a question:

can i play with my old nickname? Of course without any scripts and other similar shit.

Is it safety and not the reason of possibility to be banned again?

Man if I was one of the staff guys I would tell you that you can play with your old nick and then I'd ban you once more just for the lol'z :D

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The problem is' date=' the big hackers aren't banned because its so easy to bypass BE bans(apparently to them). So all this did was ban everyone that was using public scripts or innocent people that were victims of the big hackers.

The big hackers spoof their GUID, so they seem like another player. So instead of themselves getting banned, another person does instead.

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Hmm i don think there are innocent people here, and how can they spoof their guids, how can thy change it with a different but valid one?

I dont think thats possible.

[rocket 16567]

The problem is' date=' the big hackers aren't banned because its so easy to bypass BE bans(apparently to them). So all this did was ban everyone that was using public scripts or innocent people that were victims of the big hackers.

The big hackers spoof their GUID, so they seem like another player. So instead of themselves getting banned, another person does instead.

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See this:

This is what my head is doing, with the revelations of truth backed with solid evidence that you have just proclaimed. My world, it is changing around me.

[PeteOfButcherBay 17]

ROFL!

(I know that hacking cheater bastards isn't a funny matter but damn that picture made me laugh)

[Almightysusej 0]

The problem is' date=' the big hackers aren't banned because its so easy to bypass BE bans(apparently to them). So all this did was ban everyone that was using public scripts or innocent people that were victims of the big hackers.

The big hackers spoof their GUID, so they seem like another player. So instead of themselves getting banned, another person does instead.

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This is what my head is doing, with the revelations of truth backed with solid evidence that you have just proclaimed. My world, it is changing around me.

Rocket, I was really happy that these hackers got banned, but if this is what their actually doing, FIX THE INNOCENT PLAYERS!

[drayson 158]

Don't cheat, don't hack, don't use scripts, don't alter the game at all unless you have permission by the developers...I don't understand why this is so difficult to understand.

[cuca 20]

The problem is' date=' the big hackers aren't banned because its so easy to bypass BE bans(apparently to them). So all this did was ban everyone that was using public scripts or innocent people that were victims of the big hackers.

The big hackers spoof their GUID, so they seem like another player. So instead of themselves getting banned, another person does instead.

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This is what my head is doing, with the revelations of truth backed with solid evidence that you have just proclaimed. My world, it is changing around me.

Rocket, I was really happy that these hackers got banned, but if this is what their actually doing, FIX THE INNOCENT PLAYERS!

2nd post

Youre one of those innocent ones arent ya?

hahahaha

oh and yes you were banned by BE

[andresruiz91 0]

The problem is' date=' the big hackers aren't banned because its so easy to bypass BE bans(apparently to them). So all this did was ban everyone that was using public scripts or innocent people that were victims of the big hackers.

The big hackers spoof their GUID, so they seem like another player. So instead of themselves getting banned, another person does instead.

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This is what my head is doing, with the revelations of truth backed with solid evidence that you have just proclaimed. My world, it is changing around me.

Rocket, I was really happy that these hackers got banned, but if this is what their actually doing, FIX THE INNOCENT PLAYERS!

Everyone who has gotten global ban deserved it. If you are someone who didn't get global ban but feel sympathy for those so called "innocent" players I suggest you never browse ebay or craigslist, because if these sad whiny fucks can fool you this easily you're sure to get scammed. THERE ARE NO INNOCENT PLAYERS. Just a bunch of crying cheaters who feel they've been treated unfairly because they paid for a product to ruin it for everyone else. I'm happy they're complaining and I'm happy the DayZ staff is making them feel like shit.

[lordsilence 1]

http://dayzwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Weapons

You're welcome. Although it has been posted multiple times on these forums.

Many thanks' date=' bookmarked.

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This list isnt an official list made by DayZ staff.

The fact it's a wiki someone could edit in weapons that arent allowed.

[MidnightRave 8]

The problem is' date=' the big hackers aren't banned because its so easy to bypass BE bans(apparently to them). So all this did was ban everyone that was using public scripts or innocent people that were victims of the big hackers.

The big hackers spoof their GUID, so they seem like another player. So instead of themselves getting banned, another person does instead.

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This is what my head is doing, with the revelations of truth backed with solid evidence that you have just proclaimed. My world, it is changing around me.

Rocket, I was really happy that these hackers got banned, but if this is what their actually doing, FIX THE INNOCENT PLAYERS!

Everyone who has gotten global ban deserved it. If you are someone who didn't get global ban but feel sympathy for those so called "innocent" players I suggest you never browse ebay or craigslist, because if these sad whiny fucks can fool you this easily you're sure to get scammed. THERE ARE NO INNOCENT PLAYERS. Just a bunch of crying cheaters who feel they've been treated unfairly because they paid for a product to ruin it for everyone else. I'm happy they're complaining and I'm happy the DayZ staff is making them feel like shit.

You make yourself look so arrogant that its funny.