Uzi 9mm. (New weapon!)

[LancerG2 369]

I would just like to thank Goos for helping me with a current mental block I had when writing this yesterday. So now I've picked up the keyboard and started again.

Introduction/briefing

So this suggestion is to add the IMI Uzi. We have the PDW, The Mini Uzi, And quite frankly it's classified as a machine pistol (Unlike the first Uzi In the series being a SMG) but not only that. It's terrible and it brings a discrace to the Uzi Itself, and the game is pretty short on Sub-Machine guns, We only have an MP5 (Including the supressed varient) and the PP-19 Bizon, So a spare SMG wouldn't be bad.

Some history.

Being designed in Israel by Major Uziel Gal the Uzi is a blowback open-bolt Sub Machine gun and was Developed in the 1950's, the Uzi has been exported to over 90 countries (Including Europe so I don't see how Cherno can't be counted).

The Uzi has a firing rate of 600 Rpm and has an effective range of 200m (Can go to 600m), The original uses the 9x19mm parabellum cartridge and in the standard magazine it holds 32 bullets and it contains a folding stock. The Gun has been used in plenty of wars like Vietnam, etc and is still used today by some police and millitary forces.

Gamewise.

Ingame the Uzi would be uncommon considering it was used in a few wars around Europe (Some where summgled into bosnia) and would mostly be found in cities (Dark gloomy alleyways) or millitary locations.

The gun would do moderate damage and would be a good middle tier gun. Holding 32 rounds in the Uzi magazine it would be more than enough to get you going. The Uzi has a good range around 200m but can go to 600m. Being a Smg like the mp5 it does 889 blood per hit making it average like all the sub-machine guns.

The Uzi is a slightly noisy SMG like the MP5. Having a low/moderate sound.

Also another Idea is like the MP5 add a suppressed version. The suppressed version is the same but doesn't make as much noise as the normal gun itself.

Conclusion

In conclusion the Uzi could be a possibillity to be added in DayZ. The gun itself would have a high fire rate and ammunition would be really easy to find. This gun would useful in close/medium quarter combat and would be provided efficent for somebody carrying light.

Idea by: LancerG2

Written by: LancerG2

Video courtesy by: Hickock 45

Assistance by: Goos.

[dayz247 59]

I added the SA-61 to my server to fill this gap.

[-Gews- 7443]

I added the SA-61 to my server to fill this gap.

I don't like the Sa61, it takes roughly a dozen shots to kill an unarmoured soldier in Arma. I made a small Takistan mission using one and found to my frustration I could not kill the enemy Warlord with it (he ran away unless I made a headshot on him).

In DayZ it would take 24 body shots...

[DemonGroover 8836]

Yep, just so i can say...

[m.w. vindicator 880]

My only problem is that you would like the gun to do 899 blood damage. The blood damage system is flawed and it makes players survive way too many hits. In standalone, this system will not be used.

Other than that, the idea seems legit.

[-Gews- 7443]

My only problem is that you would like the gun to do 899 blood damage. The blood damage system is flawed and it makes players survive way too many hits. In standalone, this system will not be used.

Other than that, the idea seems legit.

True, but 889 damage makes sense given the other 9mms do 889 damage. I'd rather have damages be consistent rather than some damages realistic, but others not. In the next patch they are buffing the pistol ammo. I expect they will buff it for all 9mm / .45 weapons, not just the pistols.

In standalone, this system will not be used.

The hit-point system won't be used? That would be nice, but ArmA 3 uses it and I haven't heard anything about standalone using a different system...

As for the Uzi, I'll repeat some of what I said in my PM since I have the same opinion. :lol:

The biggest issue I would usually have is that "it's (insert non-Eastern nationality) and dat's not authentic". I tend to overanalyze these things on the forums, not so much while actually in-game. However Uzis are used all over the world and some made their way to Chernarus-like regions, you could say they get around.

I don't know how widespread the weapon is in the Eastern Europe / Balkan region but there were at least some used in conflicts. On the Uzi Forums a user claims to have used one in former Yugoslavia in 1996-1997. In James Gow's The Serbian Project he mentions how they tried to smuggle in hundreds of thousands of Uzis to Bosnia. The shipment of guns was intercepted but others were not, and there were definitely more than a few in the region.

The Serbian mafia has been found to have Uzis, among other things.

Since 1992 Croatia also produced their own identical copy called the ERO (made by the company "ARMA", heheh) so I'd mention or consider that too. It's almost identical to the Uzi, either would indistinguishable in the game.

For backstory I would consider them a criminal organization's gun, or one that otherwise made its way into Chernarus through the black market as leftovers from Balkan conflicts.

I would expect spawn rate to be lower than the MP5s and Bizons.

[TheCreeper (DayZ) 3565]

Hate to break it to you, Uzi is in the game, they call it a PDW

[dayz247 59]

I don't like the Sa61, it takes roughly a dozen shots to kill an unarmoured soldier in Arma. I made a small Takistan mission using one and found to my frustration I could not kill the enemy Warlord with it (he ran away unless I made a headshot on him).

In DayZ it would take 24 body shots...

I just tested it.

9 shots to the leg of a zombie will kill it with a sa61.

[dayz247 59]

Haha, maybe I should start ppl with the SA61 instead of a 1911. Would make the new guys feel all warm and cozy inside, until they tried to kill their first zombie.

Is that mean?

[LancerG2 369]

Hate to break it to you, Uzi is in the game, they call it a PDW

Hate to break it to you. the PDW sucks, And I clearly mentioned it. Also the PDW should be replaced with a G18 or CZ75 Auto. But we need more SMGs.

[slivniku@gmail.com 93]

Vz something scorpion is "the authentic" gun for the east europe+balkans

In Yugoslavia mp5 is way more common than uzi

That said, Imo all should be in the game, with law spawn rates, just so the characters would be even more unique, to hell with authenticity ;)

[liquidcactus 719]

i would like to see teh uzi or mac variety

[liquidcactus 719]

That said, Imo all should be in the game, with law spawn rates, just so the characters would be even more unique, to hell with authenticity ;)

HELL YES THATS WHAT I SAY !

[enforcer1975 1111]

Hate to break it to you, Uzi is in the game, they call it a PDW

Yeah but isn't it the "mini"?

[TheCreeper (DayZ) 3565]

But we need more SMGs.

Agreed, now with that a damage increase, which I think is slated for next patch or SA, don't remember off the top of my head

[intensity 157]

It would be just a full auto M9SD. Although, ever since I've been playing on the SOMC DayZ: Hard Corps, I've found so many guns and equipment I'd love to see in vanilla DayZ. They don't just have ACE, but all of the RH Weapon packs. The SMG pack comes with; MP5's, MP5k's, MP7's, UMP's, FN P90's, Hk53's, PDR's, TMP's, UZI's, Mac10's, PP2000's, Kriss's, and FMG9's

Each gun has at least 7 variants, if not, more. My two favorites, the Gold MP5SD and the Gold UZI SD. :D

[dallas 5195]

Yeah but isn't it the "mini"?

Nope, it's the micro. :)

[intensity 157]

Nope, it's the micro. :)

This.

Its WAY too small to be a mini UZI.

[mzltv 2281]

We're in Chernarus, not the Harlem Projects.

Edited April 25, 2013 by mzltv

[Sutinen 635]

YES, HICKOK45!

It's a pretty good suggestion, since it's used in Eastern Europe too.

[LancerG2 369]

YES, HICKOK45!

Hahaha. Easy now man, we all like that guy.

[big_t 66]

That guy HICKO45 is a pretty damn good shot! Must be tricky to shoot that far with such a small barrel length.

[Sutinen 635]

Hahaha. Easy now man, we all like that guy.

I was just so excited, I'm a fan and a subscriber :D

[Chaingunfighter 917]

It would be just a full auto M9SD. Although, ever since I've been playing on the SOMC DayZ: Hard Corps, I've found so many guns and equipment I'd love to see in vanilla DayZ. They don't just have ACE, but all of the RH Weapon packs. The SMG pack comes with; MP5's, MP5k's, MP7's, UMP's, FN P90's, Hk53's, PDR's, TMP's, UZI's, Mac10's, PP2000's, Kriss's, and FMG9's

Each gun has at least 7 variants, if not, more. My two favorites, the Gold MP5SD and the Gold UZI SD. :D

Robert Hammer's weapon packs are great.

The thing is, a lot of custom servers use them to an unreasonable level. Most of his weapon packs give weapons that are really advanced. In fact, the only ones from this pack I could really see being in the vanilla would be the MP5K, Uzis and maybe MAC-10s

[FlashHawk4 44]

I REALLY wish he would make an "old guns" pack. The few attempts I've ever seen at bolt-action rifles, WWII-era machine guns, and all that have usually been even worse than BI's quasi-placeholders. God, the community needs that way more than they need yet another M4 SOPMOD system.

Maybe the ArmA 3 weapon customization system will take away the incentive to make packs of guns that are just differently accessorized AR-15 models and start making unique weapon packs. Who knows.