DayZ Developer Blog 8th March

[OrLoK 16185]

Hello there

Killing off pvp is not the aim, rather that in giving the player more to "do" the emphasis is less on pvp combat and more on the survival experience as a whole including pvp.

If one wants a pure pvp experience, they can just use vanilla Arma or the wasteland mission for example.

Rgds

LoK

[law1977 17]

Just reading all the comments here and lots of interesting points.

1. I enjoyed this no frills dev blog, nice to see ppl playing the game showing how things work, like looting clothes etc..

2. I to would have like to see buildings being searched, the town or mini city looked cool but if we cannot enter most of it then its just background. As soon as I saw the big apartment blocks I wondered how much will be able to enter. I am realistic I know the Devs cannot make every room enterable, because of the amount of work involved. Rocket said it is not finished let so I am interested to know how much in an average town would be enterable and if they have aim to increase this in updates.

3. Inventory screen was mentioned and I am really looking forward to seeing this, after wrestling and mainly losing to the old mod inv screen. Hot keys sound excellent and will allow customisation to your char.

4. The poor testers, "say something interesting about the game", I think they were not sure on what they can say, why they needed prompting from rocket. So I think it is a tad harsh to pick on the testers , where I feel it was a bit " rabbit in the head lights" for them. It was clearly a thrown together blog, so in the future I think with some more warning the testers can gather there thoughts and give some good feedback to us.

5. Release date, I have read lots of opinion about this and I do see there point, I also think rocket has explained his reasons and should be given the time to get "base engine" sorted. I can imagine the up roar if they release the game and it is poorly done lots of bugs and nothing works. You can hide behind the alpha title but I think rocket wants everything to work from the start to a high standard and then build on this. Then drip updates in expanding each part of the engine.

Couple of questions I would lie to see addressed in future blogs, where they are with it.

1. Enterable buildings, especially the blocks of apartments, how much are they aiming for on release and where they are at currently.

2. A blog completely about there aims for crafting, the biggest thing about stand alone I feel and links to all end game content like cars, bases etc..

3. Inventory system how it looks and the key features of it. I understand why rocket is so secretive but I feel a quick look will put a lot of people's mind at ease.

A nice structured blog each week or couple of weeks with the subject of just one key feature would make fora very interesting blog, such as the animation blog.

Cheers for reading and putting up with my bad grammar ;)

[marko4231 57]

You can avoid PVP and the hope is with all of the new content, mechanics ect there'll be more reason to avoid pvp all together. It's always going to be an important part of the game but many peopl just PVP at the moment because they've exhausted everything else the mod has to offer.

Will you also be able to play in singleplayer mode, i am frankly sick of stuf that happens now. I play on a friendlies server you can imagine but stil sick shit goes on man.

Also acasionaly we get hacker visitors etc..etc...etc..

Singleplayer yes or no?

And i dont know what game have you been playing, but no, you cant avoid PVP. You can avoid shooting other players but they will shoot you.

Edited March 10, 2013 by marko4231

[marko4231 57]

Hello there

Killing off pvp is not the aim, rather that in giving the player more to "do" the emphasis is less on pvp combat and more on the survival experience as a whole including pvp.

If one wants a pure pvp experience, they can just use vanilla Arma or the wasteland mission for example.

Rgds

LoK

You can play with a group and when you gather enough simply kill the rest and you have all you need to survive.

Pvp should have serious consiquences, like shaking that cannot be stoped or random passing out. Or make bumerang bullets-every time you aim at another player and shoot you kill yourself.

[willey.erd@oundleschool.org.uk 506]

Pvp should have serious consiquences, like shaking that cannot be stoped or random passing out. Or make bumerang bullets-every time you aim at another player and shoot you kill yourself.

No, no it shouldn't. I don't know what game you want but this certainly isn't it - without PVP a huge part of the DayZ experience goes down the drain.

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

PvP is pretty easily avoidable if you're so inclined and can make good use of your surroundings.

If you're getting nailed all the time, you're doing it wrong.

What happens if you try to shoot yourself with a "boomerang-bullet" ?

[RedNome 443]

Will you also be able to play in singleplayer mode, i am frankly sick of stuf that happens now. I play on a friendlies server you can imagine but stil sick shit goes on man.

Also acasionaly we get hacker visitors etc..etc...etc..

Singleplayer yes or no?

And i dont know what game have you been playing, but no, you cant avoid PVP. You can avoid shooting other players but they will shoot you.

You can play with a group and when you gather enough simply kill the rest and you have all you need to survive.

Pvp should have serious consiquences, like shaking that cannot be stoped or random passing out. Or make bumerang bullets-every time you aim at another player and shoot you kill yourself.

Seriously, don't waste your time on here, go find a game that is more suitable to your tastes, this certainly isn't the one for you.

[Cheese Grinder 91]

I'm planning on surviving.

I'll give you a hand if you like. (I'm nice like that)

Hey I like surviving too. Ow look, you have some nice stuff on you. It will raise my chances to survive if I kill you and get your stuff.

Bottom line, people fail to realize that PvP is part of surviving, not a sperate aspect of gameplay

PvP is pretty easily avoidable if you're so inclined and can make good use of your surroundings.

If you're getting nailed all the time, you're doing it wrong.

What happens if you try to shoot yourself with a "boomerang-bullet" ?

I am pretty sure they didn't invent those yet :P

You can play with a group and when you gather enough simply kill the rest and you have all you need to survive.

Pvp should have serious consiquences, like shaking that cannot be stoped or random passing out. Or make bumerang bullets-every time you aim at another player and shoot you kill yourself.

Yes, there is a consequence to PvP, people shooting back at you!!!

I think that by itself is enough.

Will you also be able to play in singleplayer mode, i am frankly sick of stuf that happens now. I play on a friendlies server you can imagine but stil sick shit goes on man.

Also acasionaly we get hacker visitors etc..etc...etc..

Singleplayer yes or no?

And i dont know what game have you been playing, but no, you cant avoid PVP. You can avoid shooting other players but they will shoot you.

Marko, I am pretty sure you don't like this game. SO why not just move on to something else? Your whining doesn't solve anything. You are not contributing to the discussion

i know, but i just needed to tell my opinion and state that my patience has an end although i will buy it whenever it is released <_< :rolleyes:

even though if its not before rocket is on holidays i am going to deeply hate him >:( and he cant outweigh it with the quality of the game.

Don't state you opinion if its something "hurr durr, I dont like this, the end" it doesn't help mate

Edited March 10, 2013 by Legacy

[dgeesio 1034]

Hello there

Killing off pvp is not the aim, rather that in giving the player more to "do" the emphasis is less on pvp combat and more on the survival experience as a whole including pvp.

If one wants a pure pvp experience, they can just use vanilla Arma or the wasteland mission for example.

Rgds

LoK

very bad reasoning you have take out pvp and watch what happens to dayz ;)

telling people to go play arma or wasteland is not very good for dayz i understand some dont want to have pvp but ask the masses if they would rather keep pvp or not have it youd lose every day of the week and twice on sunday !

pvp is natural. it would happen as things naturally get worse and worse. as things become more scarce or dangerous people would take less chances and pvp would become more and more as time goes on . denying this is idiotic. it really is.

[liquidmind 320]

you kill of pvp im sorry to say youll lose most of the people who play this.

Not liking to kill and not being good at it, are two different things.

I usually win pvp encounters, unless i get shot in the back without a chance to react. But that doesn't necessarily mean that I want to waste my time running around and hunting other players. I don't see any sense in that. I don't know why I should want to do that. What's wrong with that?

some will say wtf are you on about but the masses play for pvp taking away this would hit the player numbers hard. you only have to look at what the biggest selling games are they are pvp.

If you want a game, that's like any other game, why would anyone bother to make or play it?

if you look back the last 6 month what people praised about dayz, it's usually not the genious pvp concept, but rather the genius Sandbox attempt.

I agree that removing pvp completely is not the way to go. But everyone saying that pvp is the only way to play a game because every other game wants you to pvp and dayz is a game too, is just ridiculously stupid and ignorant.

[elf cakes 559]

hey all, so while watching the latest devblog i spotted that at around 4:38, Matt writes in the chat ''who is in the new urban area north of cherno''. i don't know if this has been spotted before or if it is anything new, but i haven't heard of any 'new urban areas north of cherno' before, so i thought i'd share this.

Edited : Bb

as i say it was around 4:38 during the video.

Edited March 10, 2013 by Boneboys

[wooly-back-jack 294]

I spotted it beforehand but didn't think nothing of it, I expect there to be a few new areas.

[Very Ape 748]

I think what's shown in the video is the new urban area.

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

*snip*

Miss the point much?

PvP will not be removed. Rather, the urge to run and gun will be tempered with more risk.

Lok saying "play Wasteland" is correct, if you want an entirely PvP oriented game.

Stamping your feet like a child when a title, still in development, doesn't stay exactly the same forever, is the idiotic thing.

Nobody is denying the fact that killing would take place. But you seem to be denying the idea that there's more to the scenario than deathmatch.

[ShokeR (DayZ) 29]

Rocket already said about that.

[elf cakes 559]

if rocket already talked about it, then consider this thread closed as it no longer has any point.

[boneboys 7988]

@ elf cakes

I really don't know why you made a Topic for this.

FyI there are urban centers north of Cherno, most of the vid was shot in such a location.

Merged.

Edited March 10, 2013 by Boneboys

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

@elf cakes,

Novoselki. Looks to be on the road North out of Cherno, which leads in the direction of Balota/Zeleno.

Can see the little sniper tower to the East and a farm to the North in some pics.

[dgeesio 1034]

Miss the point much?

PvP will not be removed. Rather, the urge to run and gun will be tempered with more risk.

Lok saying "play Wasteland" is correct, if you want an entirely PvP oriented game.

Stamping your feet like a child when a title, still in development, doesn't stay exactly the same forever, is the idiotic thing.

Nobody is denying the fact that killing would take place. But you seem to be denying the idea that there's more to the scenario than deathmatch.

whos stamping there feet like a child :rolleyes:

the busiest biggest servers full 24/7 are pvp servers ! denying pvp play is a bad move its clearly wanted . just because minoritys want no pvp thats not how it works. you cater for the biggest majoirty.

infact make a poll no pvp or pvp in the game the pvp will win everytime ! i do agree other things need adding but people denying the power of play pvp brings to dayz are living in cloud cuckoo land.

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

There is no debate about removing pvp from the game and that's not what's going to happen. Am I missing something here?

[willey.erd@oundleschool.org.uk 506]

@elf cakes,

Novoselki. Looks to be on the road North out of Cherno, which leads in the direction of Balota/Zeleno.

Can see the little sniper tower to the East and a farm to the North in some pics.

Just from what I saw, I don't think that was Novoselki they were in. If you think about the positioning of that supermarket in the devblog, and the way Rocket ran towards that hill, that implies that they are where the Vysota Barn and farm area used to be. I believe Novoselki is in fact over the hill, actually directly North of Cherno, rather than North-East which is where this was. Could a tester confirm this? Or am I wrong completely?

[shadowjack 254]

As long as we can loot our own dead bodies and place tents full of gear on several servers the name of our char shouldn't be something we have to care about.

We shouldn't be able to loot our own bodies nor have access to past lives gear stored in tents/vehicles ect. Are we not supposed to be dead and starting a new life? Keep the name, not the gear.

[OrLoK 16185]

@dgeeso you seem to misunderstand, PVP is not being removed/eliminated/toned down. Have I also missed something?

[dgeesio 1034]

There is no debate about removing pvp from the game and that's not what's going to happen. Am I missing something here?

no not totally removing it just some are trying to make out pvp isnt needed or isnt a vital part of the game. its one of the biggest parts of the game . trying to deny this is foolish. whether it was meant to be by rocket is a different story but the game has evolved itself into a pvp game. trying to alter the product that masses enjoy to cater for minorities is a bad idea.

what i dont get is all you have to do is look at walking dead tv series which is basically this game just in game form.

rick and his crew started out lets help all lots died people betrayed people and after you get fooked over a few times you dont go back you become less trusting you would kill more on sight you wont take risks.

this is highlighted in the later series and just shows the differences in how dayz is played now and how it started out.

i do agree more things need to be added to dayz but im just saying dont overlook how many people play dayz for pvp.

Edited March 10, 2013 by dgeesio

[OrLoK 16185]

no not totally removing it just some are trying to make out pvp isnt needed or isnt a vital part of the game.

not me :)

I'm not really in to my PvP in Dayz but it *is* an important aspect. The point being that hopefully it wont be the *only* aspect to the game.

Lastly, I still stick to my steering people away from DAYZ and to vanilla Arma2/3 if they want a pure PvP experience. Just as I would point players who wanted a pure flight sim to IL2 for example.

Rgds

LoK

Edited March 10, 2013 by orlok
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