Fraggle (DayZ) 15720 Posted January 11, 2013 @ FinKone - Yeh it's gonna be interesting that's for sure.I agree about the zombie behaviour but TBH it just comes down to how they decide to prioritise their time. We know that the zeds will be getting the full overhaul, the only question really remaining is at what point in the process it'll happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DemonGroover 8836 Posted January 11, 2013 well thats true however why not just fix the zombie AI and include it in the initial release if it is something that is easier then what they are currently doing? However i am curious to see how zombies have improved without a AI reworkMaybe all it took was to make them run in straight lines, run indoors and to not allow them to hit through walls or walk through objects. After all a zombie is a perfect AI in computer games. No dodging or weaving just investigate noises and once spotted run straight at the player.Improvements however, of the kind they can add later may be on the lines of zombies aggro-ing each other (ie: if zombies see other zombies running maybe they will join in the fun), life cycles of zombies, different model types, dormant zombies springing to life, zombies hiding in cupboards.....who knows their plans?I think the idea is simply get the engine and architecture stable and tested and then rollout the features. I am confident once the alpha is released to everyone the additional features will keep coming and coming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fraggle (DayZ) 15720 Posted January 11, 2013 Yup, once the initial release is out and stable that's when the sexy stuff'll start being sorted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bat (DayZ) 230 Posted January 11, 2013 I think Rocket and Bohemia's decision here is pretty obvious.Sell beta access to whichever 100 people will pay the most for it.Use the revenue generated to hire a crack team of macho deadly mercenaries to rescue Ivan and Martin from their evil greek captorsChurn out standalone faster with their help of the freed devsPROFITIs quentin tarantino directing this one?on topic : I can't fucking wait for the first streaming footages, want to see that UI, inventory, clothing system (this one gonna be epic I can tell...), new character animations hopefully? and chernarus with take on helicopter weather system.. gonna be atmospheric to say the least ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ImageCtrl 719 Posted January 11, 2013 ... and chernarus with take on helicopter weather system.. gonna be atmospheric to say the least !Already shared in toh thread. Leave it here again... :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skint (DayZ) 138 Posted January 11, 2013 It will only be released on Steam because they don't have a big enough team for an anti-cheat (They will be using VAC) or download system.Hmm, I was hoping for more options ofr purchase.Also, I'm a bit disappointed with the £14 price, I was expecting it to be half that.Especially considering that they are now saying they haven't tackled the Zed AI and the character/environment collision issues.It just doesn't sound like a release worth £14.More like £6 or £7 tops for the first stage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fraggle (DayZ) 15720 Posted January 11, 2013 It's worth remembering that for that price you will own the game including all future patches until it is complete. Also, buying it is not mandatory. I honestly think if there's one thing you can't criticise about the SA, it's the price. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fraggle (DayZ) 15720 Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) Is quentin tarantino directing this one?on topic : I can't fucking wait for the first streaming footages, want to see that UI, inventory, clothing system (this one gonna be epic I can tell...), new character animations hopefully? and chernarus with take on helicopter weather system.. gonna be atmospheric to say the least ! Volumetric clouds are looking very nice in that engine :)I really hope the critics are starting to see the strengths of the engine now rather than focussing on the "buginess", much of which was/is a result of DayZ being a mod. Edited January 11, 2013 by Fraggle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazykillag 2 Posted January 12, 2013 wow, that really looks great. Look forward to it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floomoo 21 Posted January 12, 2013 I think Rocket and Bohemia's decision here is pretty obvious.Sell beta access to whichever 100 people will pay the most for it.Use the revenue generated to hire a crack team of macho deadly mercenaries to rescue Ivan and Martin from their evil greek captorsChurn out standalone faster with their help of the freed devsPROFITThis. Is. Amazing.Exactly what needs to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nmv06 8 Posted January 12, 2013 If i remember in Take on Helicopters, there is an option to auto start the choppa. Will it still be available in DayZ ? also, will we get to have the auto hover feature in it ? because it took me almost 30 min in the first few training missions just to get the helicopter to hover in one point. (Don't want to remember the mission where i had to land between buildings) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madballster@gmail.com 23 Posted January 12, 2013 1) Zombie AI [and more different types of Zombies]2) Walking down/up hills and stairs behaviour3) Indoor walking behaviour / moving around corners => Currently it's simply shit[...]All these things I consider basicCheck Rocket's reply on reddit. He also considers the above basic as in 'simple'. However, he said they're working on the complex issues first (client and server data storage and communication) and try to get them stable. Rocket said Zombie AI stuff is rather easy and they like to tackle the harder parts first as a 'proof of concept'. When that's done, the easy stuff like Zombie AI should be a breeze.That's why I am willing to wait on these walking/AI/movement issues and happily allow them all the time in the world to tackle the architectural issues in a first release. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonsse 69 Posted January 12, 2013 (edited) If i remember in Take on Helicopters, there is an option to auto start the choppa. Will it still be available in DayZ ? also, will we get to have the auto hover feature in it ? because it took me almost 30 min in the first few training missions just to get the helicopter to hover in one point. (Don't want to remember the mission where i had to land between buildings)I would actually support more difficult startup and handling mechanics rather than more simple ones. It would require a dedicated member of a group to be the pilot, someone who knows how to do it and can perform in difficult situations.Also it would prevent just any noob running to a helicopter and taking of with it, and then crashing it a few minutes later. Makes the entire thing so dispensable. Edited January 12, 2013 by Jonsse 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Menny 116 Posted January 12, 2013 If i remember in Take on Helicopters, there is an option to auto start the choppa. Will it still be available in DayZ ? also, will we get to have the auto hover feature in it ? because it took me almost 30 min in the first few training missions just to get the helicopter to hover in one point. (Don't want to remember the mission where i had to land between buildings)It should be hard. I see DayZ as a zombie survival simulator. Having realistic chopper handling really adds to that. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnblue@hotmail.com 40 Posted January 13, 2013 Only just noticed this thread, will give me something nice to watch till my server gets dark and less populated!Many thanks! <3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fraggle (DayZ) 15720 Posted January 13, 2013 Not much to watch cos it's a TS Q&A session but there's some good info in there. We arranged it at short notice so don't expect anyhthing too amazing :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnblue@hotmail.com 40 Posted January 13, 2013 Not much to watch cos it's a TS Q&A session but there's some good info in there. We arranged it at short notice so don't expect anyhthing too amazing :)Yes I did quickly notice that and liked the "looks so much better in 480p comment" :P but an enjoyable listen all the same! :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fraggle (DayZ) 15720 Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) If we do it again we'll open a thread so we can ask them some of the questions you guys want answered. We didn't really have time to arrange it that time, it was only going to be an informal meeting and we decided to do the Q&A bit at the last minute. Edited January 13, 2013 by Fraggle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnblue@hotmail.com 40 Posted January 13, 2013 That would be cool, I'll keep an eye out for that, already got my question, is there any intention to add fishing to the game? :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axon0p62 11 Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) Great as always, but all i am waiting for is someone telling me where(or when) to preorder it?Thx for your good work, Creators for the game and Forumstuff for sharing with the community. Edited January 13, 2013 by Axon0p62 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmashT 10907 Posted January 13, 2013 Great as always, but all i am waiting for is someone telling me where(or when) to preorder it?.There won't be any preorders Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gesundheitk 420 Posted January 13, 2013 There won't be any preordersCan we presteal it? I've been meaning to use my rope and hook for some time now. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimaway 3 Posted January 13, 2013 does anybody know if the ~18€ price is the "heavily discounted price in alpha stages" or the full price when the game is complete? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daze23 549 Posted January 13, 2013 does anybody know if the ~18€ price is the "heavily discounted price in alpha stages" or the full price when the game is complete?apparently that is the "heavily discounted price in alpha stages" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimaway 3 Posted January 13, 2013 wow the full release is going to be about 50€ then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites