sfscriv 14 Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) The only way to survive an attack (hacker spawning behind you with the M4 CCO SD or dropping you from the sky) by a hacker was to leave the server as quickly as possible (Esc + Abort or Alt + F4). Join a different server and administer first aid.Now with the NEW combat system, the first shot fired by the hacker ensures he kills your character and you loose all your hard-earned equipment.Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!This was my experience with DayZ on public servers in sequence from a to d:a) Badly wounded another player or he sees there is a high chance of death, he Alt + F4sb ) Hacker drops me from the sky with every other player on the serverc) Single Hacker in God mode spawns in behind you and shoots youd) Two to three Hackers in God mode spawn around you and shoots youNow, I stick to Private servers to avoid being Hack-attacked. Edited November 1, 2012 by sfscriv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WalkerDown (DayZ) 296 Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) The only way to survive an attack (hacker spawning behind you with the M4 CCO SD or dropping you from the sky) by a hacker was to leave the server as quickly as possible (Esc + Abort or Alt + F4). Join a different server and administer first aid.Now with the NEW combat system, the first shot fired by the hacker ensures he kills your character and you loose all your hard-earned equipment.Actually it's not true.. at the last moment, someone with his brain still working have figured that the combat system doesn't work at all and have then removed the "auto-kill", but they have left the chat message giving a cookie to who had the "original" idea (he may have lost time to develop this, you couldn't just trash it in 5 inutes...).In other words, in this situations where a ALT+F4 is needed, you can continue to use it with no consequences. Edited November 1, 2012 by WalkerDown 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#Sleepy 572 Posted November 1, 2012 )': I'm not in the credits. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jan_f_w 23 Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) What bothers me in regards to the combat system is the fact that the radius with 70m seems to be set to a pretty high value causing silenced kills with axes or guns to be recognized in that radius; I really dont like the idea that my mates or me can now get revealed by that when doing sneaky action. The combat system is targeted to PVP but may give PVE players a bad time. Edited November 1, 2012 by wickedinsane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeppa 562 Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) )': I'm not in the credits.Have some beans to take away the first wave of sadness even if you were not ment to be there :D Edited November 1, 2012 by Zeppa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris_uk 16 Posted November 1, 2012 What bothers me in regards to the combat system is the fact that the radius with 70m seems to be set to a pretty high value causing silenced kills with axes or guns to be recognized in that radius; I really dont like the idea that I or my mates can now get revealed by that when doing sneaky action. The combat system is targeted to PVP but may give PVE players a bad time.I agree.. The distance should be dropped to 10m, at least then you wont be in combat from your mate chopping a tree down. The distance as it is now can be abused so much. If im running through a forest and axe a cow for meat, anyone within 70m will be told im there.. Its Just stupid. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narsil1 24 Posted November 1, 2012 What about random broken legs at 12k blood when a walker hits you!?It's ridiculous.And where are the damn peripheral dots!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeppa 562 Posted November 1, 2012 And where are the damn peripheral dots!?These were rediculous... good thing that those are gone, no way to "cheat" now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mos1ey 6301 Posted November 1, 2012 I agree.. The distance should be dropped to 10m, at least then you wont be in combat from your mate chopping a tree down. The distance as it is now can be abused so much. If im running through a forest and axe a cow for meat, anyone within 70m will be told im there.. Its Just stupid. You don't physically hack the tree to get wood and it's only 30 seconds, not the end of the world.There should be no combat icon showing that someone used a hatchet near you though, that's a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jan_f_w 23 Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) What about random broken legs at 12k blood when a walker hits you!?It's ridiculous.And where are the damn peripheral dots!?Wasn't there always the chance of being crit-hitted with one punch? I remember two, three times where (with full blood) the first hit by a zombie was a crit and smashed my legs.However, since I like the realism aspect, I can live well with not seeing the peripheral dots any more; for me there is no sensible reason to have them; I dont like indicators showing me something which I would otherwise not see - its like enabling "perfect lines" in racing games - I just want to find out myself - if I fail I know where I have to improve (btw remember that when using night vision the indicators were also not there all the time before).The loss of the debug monitor is ok to me; I would even appreciate the removal of 3rd person view, since looking around obstacles just does not make sense for a 1st person shooter. Edited November 1, 2012 by wickedinsane 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 1, 2012 I'm loving it so far. Although no more debug monitor? I like knowing my humanity... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapaTango69 5 Posted November 1, 2012 I can hear a branch break 50m away when I'm hunting IRL ...you are saying you can kill a cow in a forrest and it shouldnt be detected... lol...That's almost as silly as not being able to eat my beans in the car anymore...l know I can eat Burger King in my own car! How is this more realistic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 1, 2012 I'm loving it so far. Although no more debug monitor? I like knowing my humanity... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapaTango69 5 Posted November 1, 2012 I can hear a branch break 50m away when I'm hunting IRL ...you are saying you can kill a cow in a forrest and it shouldnt be detected... lol...That's almost as silly as not being able to eat my beans in the car anymore...l know I can eat Burger King in my own car! How is this more realistic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narsil1 24 Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) This is a simulator, not an arcade game.You need to have some form of sense of your surroundings, you do not have real field of view, nor do you have a the true depth of vision in the game, you need something like a sixth sense., something to be aware of your surroundings.The peripheral dots needed a nerf but not exclusion from the mod. Edited November 1, 2012 by narsil 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris_uk 16 Posted November 1, 2012 I can hear a branch break 50m away when I'm hunting IRL ...you are saying you can kill a cow in a forrest and it shouldnt be detected... lol...That's almost as silly as not being able to eat my beans in the car anymore...l know I can eat Burger King in my own car! How is this more realistic?You hit the nail on yhe head.. You can HEAR branches breaking... You dont get some little logo in your vision saying that something is at least 70m away do you. Cows make a sound when they die, if i player doesnt hear that then thats their fault. Not mine. And you are NOT in combat when you axe a tree or kill a cow are you! Combat is a 2 way thing, the cow isnt going to turn around and kung fu kick you in the side of your head is it.. I really love what the combat system aims to do. I also think it will work well But 70m is just too much. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#Sleepy 572 Posted November 1, 2012 This is a simulator, not an arcade game.You need to have some form of sense of your surroundings, you do not have real field of view, nor do you have a the true depth of vision in the game, you need something like a sixth sense., something to be aware of your surroundings.The peripheral dots needed a nerf but not exclusion from the mod.Why don't we have an FOV of 180? I believe I do in real life. When I'm looking straight I can still see directly to my sides.-On the sides there can be blur like we'd have in real life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bakst 98 Posted November 1, 2012 * [NEW] Alt-f4 is now locked and will only open your status menu.* [NEW] New Combat System If you fire a weapon, then you go into combat. During combat, "ABORT" is disabled. (Need to look at the effects with high player counts)* [NEW] Combat 30 sec timer on all combat actions.absolutely fantastic, thanks!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skydive (DayZ) 71 Posted November 1, 2012 FYI DayZ Team: The site front page is still indicating the 1.7.2.6 as current download version. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joe_taylor1991@live.com 5 Posted November 1, 2012 Venthos lad!!!!! REDUX FTW! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humbleuk 76 Posted November 1, 2012 I'm on the credit list woot.I'm glad people get to try the new fixes from everyone involved, they are so much better.It makes dayz more robust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michaelvoodoo25 3120 Posted November 1, 2012 So, how does the combat system work when you're all teleported into the air by scripters and want to log out to save your character? Not every server has protection or roll back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highspiral 82 Posted November 1, 2012 So, how does the combat system work when you're all teleported into the air by scripters and want to log out to save your character? Not every server has protection or roll back.The CAT-5 cable goes around your ankle twice then plugs into the computer. one quick yank and you're safe. Of course, wireless connections are a bit trickier.... ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sniperteam6 8 Posted November 1, 2012 And you are NOT in combat when you axe a tree or kill a cow are you! Combat is a 2 way thing, the cow isnt going to turn around and kung fu kick you in the side of your head is it..Err, yes you are. The countdown is on when you shoot the cow. Agreed on the kung fu. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mzltv 2281 Posted November 1, 2012 With the DayZ Rolling Community Patches update thread; is that meant to represent what the community is currently working on, in the next patch to be released for DayZ Mod? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites