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- It does not mean more "mindless towns", as you put it. It means putting something up there that gives us a reason to go there. - I literally could not care less where you hide your vehicles in DayZ. - Saying that we shouldn't move spawns from the coast and then in the same post saying that people will stay in the spawn areas on the coast unless we give them a reason to move is silly. This is the point. Give them a reason to move around. Encourage mobility. Don't keep spawning people in the same area and encourage them to hop servers because the spawn areas are picked bone dry. Spread people out and increase the amount of places of interest and value so that the points of interest do not become overcrowded. Like what the coast is now. - I WANT new people to be overwhelmed. I want them to be barbarians marveling at the gates of Rome for the first thirty hours of their playtime before the first tiny shred of familiarity creeps into their subconscious.

What does "fleshing out the north" mean? More mindless towns? Where are we supposed to hide our vehicles? Will you park your car in a spot where people go to loot stuff? I won't. There is hardly any wilderness left at this point. Hiding a vehicle will be an excersise in futility. The problem is not the coast spawning. I can only report from my experience in dayzero here: You spawn on the coast there aswell, but people are everywhere, in every town and every forest. It's 65 man servers. One reason might be that people avoid entering towns unless there is a high priority target in there, like a hospital, or they really need some food/drink/gun. Because entering towns means dealing with many zombies. People will stay in spawn areas unless you give them a reason to move, and since serverhopping is so convenient they can equipp themselves right where they spawn, on the coast. To me that's the whole reason this happens. As a sidenote: we currently have too many military bases, they are not contested enough. They should remove the Vybor military, pavlovo mil, the barracks from balota and the new tenttown near myshkino. Right now spawning in cherno is the jackpot, easy looting at balota. Oh and btw, dayz mod used to have total random spawns, not just coasts. It sucked imo, there is a reason why they removed it. It reduces the chances to meet your friends dramatically and new people are overwhelmed even more.

First of all thanks for checking out my thread, I hope you will give me a chance to provide an enjoyable player environment. What to expect The server is running Overpoch(Chernarus) (Now with AI missions, Plot For Life / Snap Build Pro), you do not spawn with anything other than the usual flashlight a single bandage and starter backpack. I have no plans of spawning people with guns or currency as that will ruin the entire reason for playing. Currently no bases exist due to the fact it is a brand new servermeaning all vehicles are sitting around ripe for the picking making a start fairly easy.Rules (I think the rules are pretty standard) 1. No spamming side chat (I don't mind if it's used but keep it clean and don't spam) 2. No racial insults / name calling 3. Try not to shoot on sight unless you are both equally armed/matched 4. No camping trade areasOther information The server restarts every 8 hours and you can tell the next restart time by the debug monitor and bottom right of the screen.Patches/versions: epoch 1.0.5.1/ overwatch 0.2.5/ arma2 125548Difficulty: MERCENARY!Map: ChernarusServer location: United States, Chicagoip: 216.231.140.72:2402

It also would help, once vehicles are introduced, to slow down the running speed of our toons. It makes the wilderness seem so small. good luck with your crusade to save the wild places. :)

In a real life scenario, it would make sense yes, but in a video game like this, im not really sure. As i see it, finding a vehicle to repair in DayZ, should be like finding the holy grail. Im not sure how awsome it would be to find a vehicle, if every other one was functioning, even with limited fuel, as most of them would most likely still have some left in them, in the scenario you describe. I would how ever expect, almost, that the part we need from vehicles, could be found in the abandoned ones around Chernarus. Theres no logic in making all vehicle parts spawn as loot, in piles, in workshops and garages around chernarus, some of it should be retrievable from the wrecked vehicles imho.

Devs have already stated that they wont allow people to alter the loot tables, and i think its safe to say that includes vehicles. There would be no point in making a global economy, if they wanted to give people the ability to create "1000 vehicles" servers.

[GG] Ghostz Gamerz Server | Website We run two Overpoch servers currently with lots of scripts and the least lag. [GG] servers stand out from the crowd because of the number of awesome scripts we offer; also good active Admin staff and rules to make the server stable. Scripters work everyday to make the server better! We also offer free TeamSpeak for you to find other survivors. If you're running with a group of friends or in a clan, we have private channels for you as well! Currently we're offering 10,000c in-game for joining our TeamSpeak... just speak with an Admin or Mod! Ghostz Gamerz hosts 2 maps... Chernarus and Taviana. In the upcoming weeks we'll bring online a 3rd map which the community will vote on. All servers run the same scripts! Chernarus Our Chernarus server is brand new... come claim your piece of land before someone else does! Taviana Server Addons & Content Gold coin system to insure safe and easy trade. (Single Currency)Group management system.Traders sell certain militarized air and land vehicles.All around the map you can find ATMs to withdraw/deposit your gold for safe keeping.Ability to tow and lift ANY vehicle in the game. As long as you have a certain vehicle.We have ALL Overwatch content on the server... nothing was left out! All guns, vehicles and skins have been added in to both Traders and loot spawns.All Traders and banks are protected by a Safezone border that enables God Mode and a zombie shield, plus all vehicles slowed down to prevent accidents.We have custom map features and bases on our server to add more places to PVP and loot.Not only do we have one mission system, we have TWO. One for AI and loot crates and the other for hidden treasures, airdrops, and care packages.4hr restarts with a mix of Daylight and Nighttime gameplay.All gas stations have refueling and repairing stations.Our antihack consist of inifSTAR and custom developed protection by DTG.​ ​Joining Our Server Some players can not see our server when using DayZ Commander. If you can't see it then just search for either "[GG] Chernarus Overpoch" or "[GG] Taviana Overpoch" If you have any issues please don't hesitate to join our TeamSpeak Server: ts.ghostzgamerz.com and speak with an Admin or Mod for help!

I watched the last Dev stream and to be honest, I didn't like it too much. I think it's great that the devs try to be in touch with the community, I really apprechiate their effort, but I think a stream is the wrong way. Why? Basically because a stream is not "searchable" like a text document. Either you watch the whole 60+ minutes stream, or you don't. And if you don't watch it all, you miss important information. Now the thing is, 90% of what is said in there has been said 100 times before and because stupid people ask the same stupid question(s) over and over again (When will vehicles come? What vehicle will come? What color? When? Will I be able to attach a big-massacre-multi-chaingun to it?) a lot of what is said in there is... boring and important or new questions are ignored between all the flaming... Now if I'm looking for a special piece of information (e.g.: What did devs say about the current issues with doors not syncing correctly) there is no way for me to search the stream or quickjump to the point where they talk about it. Or if I forgot and want to look up something that was said in a stream weeks ago, I have no way to figure out when exactly in what stream it was. As I said, I really apprechiate how streams lets us take part in the development, but I personally would prefer a "traditional" Q&A, where the community can send in questions as plain text and the devs respond in text. (kinda like Blizzards blueposts)...

Vehicles are a key part of the game, the trick is to make them rare, difficult to maintain and a chore to fuel.

We have a server with some pretty good mods. It's overpoch taviana, here some info below, we would love to have new players on, we are trying to build a stronger community. Also, no donations required for items/buildings/vehicles. Just play in the events we hold and you can get the spoils of war. Terminus |TBA| DayZ Epoch - TeamSpeak - 8.6.2.2:9156 Terminus Gaming | Overpoch Taviana | Daily Admins | Gold Coins | PVP 199.229.255.211:2302 Website: www.terminus.pw Addons and Perks: - PVP and PVE - Self Bloodbag - Flip Vehicle - Custom Loadout - DZAI - WAI Missions - Rearm/Refuel/Repair - Snap Building Pro - 1 Step Fast Building - Plot Protection - Fast Trading - Base Jump - Trader Safe Zones - Car and Heli Lift/Tow - No Weight Limit - Deploy Bike - Take Clothes - Suicide - Coin system/banks - Weed zones and missions No Trade City Camping No Whinning No Poaching for Help No Shoreline CampingNo Vehicle Raming in Trader Cities 3000+M Teleport Only

1) How do you expect a bolt to detonate a timed-fuse fragmentation grenade? Not even touching the fact that frag grenades are only really "effective" at damaging soft-skin vehicles. (And by "damaging", I really mean "shredding the occupants inside". Fragmentation shrapnel will do jack-all to stop the vehicle. 2) That.....is not how a shotgun shell works. The primer is on the rear of the shell, so to make this work, you would essentially have a shotgun shell stuck onto the front of a bolt. Zero aerodynamic properties, which means you won't be hitting anything. Also, the plastic casing will hit the target first and, most likely, crumple, directing the pressure and buckshot back away from the target. Also, buckshot has issues penetrating personal body armor. A shotgun will not be stopping any vehicles. This is similar to what I mention in #2. He uses a 9mm stuck onto a crossbow bolt. Notice what happens when the bullet hits the cinderblock? The bolt gets shot backwards towards the point of release. If he wasn't in cover, he would probably have gotten the fletchings of the bolt in his eye. Remember Newton's Third Law, kids: for every reaction, there is an equal and opposite reaction. In a firearm, the explosive force is countered by the firearm moving backwards, known as recoil. The firearm essentially absorbs the recoil (well, most of it), allowing the bullet to move forwards. In an open system (like in the video above), there was no "restraining object" to hold in the force of the explosion; the bolt and casing flew backwards. There was nothing acting on the bullet,, so it didn't really get a lot of forward velocity, and it didn't even penetrate the block. Something that a .22LR can do with ease.

By vehicle spawns they meant things like heli crashes but (static) cars instead. I've noticed a lot of cars (at least the ones that spawned stuff) seams to be missing, though I could be wrong. Vehicles won't be in for a while and when they do add them there'll be a LOT more hype and more in the patch notes than just 'vehicle spawns added'.

What vehicles do you speak of Police cars ?

They added vehicles spawns but no vehicles???? i was looking forward to them so me and my crew could go on an adventure to the southern parts of the map seeing as we stick around the novo region and have slowly started migrating south but the trip seems very daunting to walk all that way.

I found an amazing DayZ Epoch Napf server I'm currently playing with my friends, We have had amazing experiences already tho we have only played aproximately a day. It's based on Napf map that is found in arma files so you don't have to download another map for this one. Really friendly based community I made 4 player and 1 group encounter and none of them ended up with a shoot out. I'm here marketing the server because it needs more players. Don't get discouraged by the name, It's english server. Alkis Beste Leben Gaming - [ABLG] DayZ Epoch - Napf Time on the Server: Random Day-Night (more Day) Server IP => 46.105.107.216:2422 TS3 IP => 62.75.251.112:9987 ADMINS [ABLG]: Sambuca, Cpt Morgan, Absinth, Vodka Gorbatschow, Gin, Jack Daniel's, Krombacher, Daiquiri Welcome to the presentation of our server, from [ABLG]. We offer you a nice place to stay and can provide several features for a new DayZ Epoch experience. Have fun reading! And fun playing! Our Features: - We are constantly upgrading our Server and enhance our Features! - Active Admins - Extra Vehicles: => BTR40 armed and unarmed => Jackal all versions => All kind of Bell 47 Helis => Other Mi-Helis colours => And more! - Custom Traders: => GEM-Trader: > Buy Weapons, Vehicles and Helicopters with GEMs (Humanity needed +-10000) > Sell GEMs for Gold (Humanity needed +-4000) => Hero and Bandit LVL 2 (Humanity needed +-8000) => Trader City Sawmill (third Wholesaler on the map, and Special Buildings Trader) => Almost every Trader Custom Mapped and Custom Prices => Extra Vehicles and Arma Weapons - Custom AI-Areas: => AI-Mine: easy place to find the Epoch - Ore Veins, which also drop GEMs - AI Missions: => Beware, AI is stronger than the normal stuff! => Random Loot every new Mission Spawn! => Building Missions! => Condition for Crates to spawn: 80% AI dead | Player has to go to the circles center, where the pole stands! - AI Patrols: => AIs are driving in cars over the map to provide a little more frightening world! - Custom Loot-Table => MORE Buildings to LOOT! > Added a lot of Loop-Positions in walkable buildings, which normaly do not spawn loot! - Building System: => Indestructible bases! => Snap Building PRO installed! => Plotpole is needed to build a base! (Plotpole Radius 45m | Distance between two Plotpoles 15m) => Maintaining is FREE of charge and available on every Building part! => Plotpole AND every built Wall, Door or Gate are linked to your Player-UID and are still removable after your death! => VECTOR Build installed! (Tilt every modular build object in any direction you want!) - Custom Map: => Multiple military outposts all over the map => Some cities and locations were customised => More Fields for Harvesting: > All over the Map Sunflower- and Pumpkin- and Hemp-Fields added - Further Features: => ReTexture and ReColour Vehicles! > Custom SUVs with new Textures! > Custom Mi17 Civilian with a lot of Camo Textures! > New Menu to ReColour your bought vehicles, in any colour you want! (costs 10 Gold) => Humanity Class System: > Different Humanity Levels (Hero +5000 and SuperHero +8000 | Bandit -5000 and SuperBandit -8000) > Every level has its own Humanity-Skins > Random chosen skin, when putting on Civilian-Clothes or respawn after death! > Every level has its own Start-Gear => Trader Safezones: > God Mode enabled! > No Shooting inside Trader Cities! > Anti Backpack Stealing! > Speed Limit, when other players are around! > Vehicle God Mode! > System to prevent players to use the safezone as combat shield! => Right Click Menus on Items: > SelfBloodbag > Deploy Bike, on Toolbox > Assemble Mozzie, on Toolbox (some items are needed) > Assemble Jetski, on Toolbox (some items are needed) => Spawn Selection: Select your Spawn-Point! => Further: > Vehicles are LOCKABLE from INSIDE (driver-seat with key) > Auto-Refuel > Take Clothes > Sleep in Tents (regenerates blood) > Side Chat Talking Hindrance > New Colour Filters! > Vehicle Lifting > Set your View-Distance (up to 4000) => Random Day-Night: > 4 Real Time Phases, in which are different percentages for different Server Times > For every Time Phase, DAY has the highest percentage to be chosen! - Custom Events: => Special designed Event System => Special mapped Event-Areas => Admins can spawn Event-Areas on the Server, while its running! => Some Event Types: > Jetski Race (in special mapped Race-Track) > Crash Derby (in special mapped Arena) > Stop the Admin Patrol > Hunger Games | Battle Royal (in special mapped Area) > Deathmatch | Team-Deathmatch (in different special mapped Arenas) ... and much more to discover! We await YOU!

Last updates to servers: Overpoch #1: 93.190.139.3:2502 Features: Gold coin & Banking system, Spawn Selection, Self Blood bag, Snap Pro, Easy, Medium, Hard and group difficulty AI missions and AI Strongholds / City Tow / Lift Auto refuel rearm and repair, No weight, Group system - See your friends on map and within 2km in game Custom traders. Low end Tanks, Jet and RPG's, Deploy bike, and build your own vehicles. Gems can be obtained from AI and traded, Custom towns, AN2 Cargo drops / Crash site, Elevators, Safe zone with anti theft. Players can also check to see how they are doing using our online player stats. We now also have a brand new website, including a Wiki being built to show players how to use every aspect of the games / mods / scripts we run! http://www.rejectsgaming.co.uk Now also have a 512 slot TS server @ 216.127.64.88:8417 More coming soon B)

Helos I would hate from a realism standpoint. The likelihood of having even 1 person out of 60 even know how to start up a helicopter let alone how to pilot one is insane. Then come the gameplay reasons why choppers are a horrible idea. The way Arma renders terrain means one simple pass from a helicopter and the people piloting it know exactly where stashes, vehicles and everything else is hidden. Sticking to land vehicles would be far better for gameplay.

I've found two blackhawks in .49 and I've been searching for about 2 days. My findings have been around Zelenogorsk and today I decided to check the entire area around the city, and later proceed down to Balota and end my journey in Cherno. The first copter encounter gave me pretty sweet loot (three pristine red-dot sights and a flashbang) while my second finding almost only had damaged clothes and one 60-mag for the M4. The helis seems to be extremely rare at the moment and imo there is really no point in farming them until the spawn is increased/vehicles are released! The odds of finding a heli are just that low. But I wish everyone searching for the helis good luck! ;)

i agree with no cars or vehicles and clans needing supplys , tshirts rags sticks axe morphine you gonna get shot at team member gets dead your walking 3 hours to meet up trapped in low loot towns trying low pop servers to travel across the map ;;;; yes we need cars in each major city to just stop this even if they only last long enough to travel half the map or so lol

Hello fellow survivors. After another unsuccessful trade today, ending with my death, I wonder if it's worth to discuss about something like a safe zone which there are on the Mod-Epoch servers. In general the idea behind this is simple and can be summarized pretty fast: - The biggest aspect of this game should be surviving and teamplay. Right now surviving is easy and teamplay is not necessary unless you want to check for high traffic spots or want to be a Bandit. However, I expect this game to be more team-dependant once vehicles and possible bases are introduced, as well as various other things that might come up which make surviving harder. Following this thought, I really wish for a trading zone within DayZ SA. As it's very time consuming to get all the nice things to make surviving (or whatever playstyle you prefer) easier and considering the randomness of itemspawns and the actual luck based factor of people running by precious and rare loot, it would make the world easier if people are able to trade without worries. It's a stupid feeling if you trade with someone and always have to worry about beeing shot, no matter if the trade is successful or not. There is hardly any way to punish actual gearscammers that shoot traders for their own profit. They simply create new forum accounts, add some avatars and do a few spamposts over a few days.. once that happened you're pretty unable to see if a person is honest or not. With the introduction of a safe-zone you would be able to shut down all these nasty people and make life for people that want to socialize by trading easier. The biggest con about this idea is the idea about the place itself. How do you realize a location like that, without making it vulnerable to abuses like people hiding in there or camping the entrances on high population servers.. I'm open for idea's at this point, so feel free to contribute in any ways.

I wanted to tell that Bohemia is doing a great job for putting effort in this game. I really like this game, despite all of bugs and I think I wont regret why I paid this game. This game has so much potential and I think DayZ is getting bigger and better everytime patch comes in. But, I know, I am not playing a final version but there are some things that really annoy me. Why do we make updates when there comes other bug ( rarely some bugs from old versions arent fixed yet, but luckly they all are! ) Why dont we just fix those bugs in that patch and continue? I mean if they know bugs, why do they publish update? Can anyone help me answer those quesstions? I am really keen on knowing truth about these things. ( Yeah I watched conference and stuff, but I didnt get a good answer ) - When will we get abillity to make objects and houses? Tents are really hard to find and servers dont have perssistence. - Why dont we use Arma 3 Engine instead of rescripting whole engine again? Will it fix zombies glitching through walls? - Any ideas when will this game go after final release? Will we have a singleplayer option or something? - When are vehicles coming? In what patch can we expect them? Dean, youre doing a great job. I know that you put so much potentional in this game, and I like it! Keep up the good work, ignore all those retarted people who cant read Alpha warning and they are too much used to easy games and cant put some effort and play a hardcore game. ( Cold is going really good! I like this thing, it makes me feel more survival like Walking Dead, so now I am searching for fireplaces and etc. )

Server Update Report! There is now AI Loot TOWN/BASE! Town is full off AI Not advisable to fly over as M2 WILL BE SHOT! 8 Ammo boxes scattered around the town LARGE MAZE full of AI with a VERY high value loot at the end! ......RULES..... NO STRAFING! NO ADMIN HELP WILL BE PROVIDED WHEN LOST VEHICLES DUE TO THIS TOWN! THERE IS AI GROUP ON THE OUT SIDE OF THE GATE BE CAUTIONS WHEN DRIVING BY! AI BASE LOCATION! Read more: http://uksurvivors.boards.net/thread/69/server-update-16-09-2014#ixzz3Db4ZNADv (5 photos)

tl;dr Check out this great epoch server: ANOTHEREPOCH 85.190.164.114:2302 (german/english anotherepoch.com) Hi, I'm Tom, a german DayzMod and Epoch player. It took me a while, to find a server with the set of features I expected, nice and respectful players to call ally or enemy and friendly, competent admins. Now, after playing for about two months on anotherepoch, I try to create some attention and invite you to be part of the gamerbase from England, Finland, Germany, Nederland, Norway, Poland and many other parts of the world, to survive the zombie apocalypse. To be clear: I'm not an admin, I'm not the server owner, I get nothing out of this, other than hopefully meeting some of you in Chernarus. So, why do I enjoy the server? 1.) The need to earn your stuff -- You can't donate to get a complete base with a little bird on every restart. Cinder is expensive and chainsaws are rare. It's actually an accomplishment to build a complete base and something worth fighting for, to keep it. That said, I play as a lonewolf hero and built myself a nice and safe home without it taking forever. 2.) Bases and locked vehicles are indestructable -- If you know how to build a secure base, nobody can steal your stuff, when you are not ingame. But be careful opening your front door. It's legit to remove your plotpole and take over your base. 3.) Risk and reward -- Bash and Klen are safezones, Stary, wholesalers, hero and bandit camp, boat- and the aircraftdealer are not. You can find easy AI missions to get a few weapons but also some hard, custom generated ones, that will reward you with building materials. Btw... never fly over green mountain. The AI mission up there can easily wipe a small team and blow you out of the air in no time. 4.) Variety -- You can walk out of a treeline and find a Mi-17, half an hour later sit in an osprey, drive a fuel truck to klen to sell it, or fight over a military offroad with grenade laucher in the middle of a small town. Empty keyless vehicles reset every morning, put something in the inventory and lock it away in your base to keep it for some fun, easy or protected travel later on, or sell it to get some cinder. Most important: Traveling around the map with open eyes is rewarded. You can actually find stuff. Keeping it is another story. 5.) Community -- I've yet to see an asked question staying unanswered, or a bunch of "bandits" driving along the coast to kill freshspawns. Don't get me wrong. It's not all unicorns and rainbows. I get shot at, I get killed, there are groups that fight each other without mercy. Don't expect the admins to only pay for the server and not play. They do and most of them are bandits. But they will never abuse their admin power to hunt you down or kill you and if you beat them, it's fine. Don't fear to get banned, as long as you don't cheat or break the few rules that are common sense. 6.) Performance -- I get solid 30-35 fps in Cherno and Elektro (55-60 wilderness), where on other servers sometimes my fps drop down to 14-17. Don't ask me why... Some Key Features -- Need Plotpole to build: Yes -- Need to maintain: 30 days (unopened safes get set to 0000 after 14 days. They are even listed at anotherepoch.com/stats; sweet sweet loot) -- 3 hour restart -- Auto Refuel (fuel stations and large fuel tanks) -- Self Bloodbag -- TOW and LIFT -- salvage all parts -- Added buildings, compounts and more... If you like what you just read, I hope to see you soon on ANOTHEREPOCH 85.190.164.114:2302 a 32 slot server with (for now) 12-15 players at peak times. The more the merrier. Let's have some fun and fill it up!

www.dbdhdayz.com Death Before Dishonor DayZ Overpoch Server IP's: 192.99.100.115:2302 - Chernarus 192.99.100.115:3210 - Namalsk 192.99.100.115:3967 - Taviana 192.99.100.115:2635 - Napf 192.99.100.115:3652 - Lingor 192.99.100.115:2511 - Full Mill. Napf Teamspeak: TS.DBDHDAYZ.COM Rules -No arguing over side chat. -If you need an admin, please tell them what and why you need their help. -No hacking -No Glitching/Duping -No Base Kamikazi -Do not ask admins for free stuff -No Combat Logging (frequently) -No Racial Slurs or Seriously Offensive dialogue. -No Groups larger than 8 at a time. (We can't have our server totally dominated by one clan and drive others away.) Trader Cities-No stealing. -No Abusing trader city borders. (Shooting Vehicles/Players etc.) -No blowing up/shooting/damaging any vehicles in trader cities. -No removing parts from vehicles in traders. Base Building Any of these offences subject your base to removal.-There is no base building in any Military grade loot areas. This includes Barack's, Hangars, ACT Towers, Fire Houses, etc. -No Blocking off towns for base -No Blocking roads with built items -There is no building within 300m of a SAFE ZONE BORDER -No Blocking off access to safes/plot poles Server Maintenance-Bases decay after 10 days of no maintainance. -Plot Pole is required to build -The Build limit is 350 (This will not be changed) -Safes and Lockboxes untouched for 10 days are set to 0000 and red 00, 3 days after this they get deleted if untouched. -Vehicles untouched after 3 days get deleted. -Tents untouched after 10 days get deleted. -Plot Pole range is 45m -Vehicles left in trader cities get deleted/Unlocked.

This is exactly what I'm saying. Putting more military bases in the west = narrowing the area in which loot spawns, and to which players travel. If you place a military base next to Myshkino, it will only be known as one thing (that you apparently wish to discourage). It will be known as just another clusterfuck military spawn, and not as a freeform wilderness location. And by implication, putting a high-value location in the wilderness narrows the other feasible locations at which players can place hidden tents/vehicles/structures. Thereby minimizing the number of "good hiding spots" in the wilderness, making finding these spots all the more likely. No, we are not implying that there are safe areas. Which should stop you right there. I wander alone, because it's fun. DayZ doesn't force player interaction, which is great. It only becomes a problem when no player interaction is encouraged, at all (which is essentially the case now in the alpha). Yes, the two arguments are comparable. ASIDE - People act as if there's no military base in the woods, then people won't go to the woods... ever... under any circumstances. This is just categorically false/idiotic. Did you all even play the mod? The woods were wonderful locations in which people stored their tents/gear/vehicles, prompting interaction. It wasn't by virtue of a fixed high-value loot location that did this. And not to mention the real unique gameplay that could/will sprout up from a robust wilderness... like actually having utility in a base/cabin that isn't on the road to a military base. Or in having a secluded tent that people have a hard time finding. Or in having to survive off the land because canned goods are too hard to find (which is going to be the case as per developer statements).