crazyairborne 18 Posted July 29, 2012 i was about to post a thread asking WTF happened to zombies, i recently lost my well eqipped and nicely geared character, and having to start over, its frickin nuts. found an AKM and shot once, HS the target, had about 9 zombies aggro to me, that just lamelater on with friends, i had full HP, had about 3 aggro onto us as a group, i got hit and knocked unconscious (pretty much on the first hit), went from 12000 blood to 3000 in about 3 seconds, my mates could barely kill the 3 Z's fast enough to keep them from killing me. it was ridiculous, and we all had at least AK series rifles. holy crap i need to stay out of towns now.go walk around in a building, you draw about 5 zombies in. the hearing seems kinda OP as it is right now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZomboWTF 527 Posted July 29, 2012 they are still too easy, you can run away from the forever, and they tend to deaggro now randomly when running through a forrestthey are WAY too easy, they pose no threat whatsoever if you have more than two braincellsi dont even remember when i was killed by a zombie the last time... once aou can restore your blood with animal steaks, keep over 9k blood and they cant knock you outnoobs QQing over a hardcore survival game being too hard... hillarious 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owynyo 2 Posted July 29, 2012 Wow, really!? Too hard!? You have 2 options:1: Either run through the town pulling zombies like a maniac alerting every player in a 100m radius about you being there, or2: Play it like THE REALISTIC POST APOCALYPTIC ZOMBIE SURVIVAL GAME IT EFFIN IS: Be careful, watch your sound/visibility indicators and crouch/crawl if necessary.If you're shooting at zeds you either have a death wish or love to fire your gun. There's no reason to shoot them. You can now lose zeds in trees. Just sit in one, they won't see you. It doesn't get any easier.If it's too hard for you, you should probably consider playing cod again. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kin0 21 Posted July 29, 2012 i was about to post a thread asking WTF happened to zombies, i recently lost my well eqipped and nicely geared character, and having to start over, its frickin nuts. found an AKM and shot once, HS the target, had about 9 zombies aggro to me, that just lamelater on with friends, i had full HP, had about 3 aggro onto us as a group, i got hit and knocked unconscious (pretty much on the first hit), went from 12000 blood to 3000 in about 3 seconds, my mates could barely kill the 3 Z's fast enough to keep them from killing me. it was ridiculous, and we all had at least AK series rifles. holy crap i need to stay out of towns now.go walk around in a building, you draw about 5 zombies in. the hearing seems kinda OP as it is right nowThe worst is when you're at full health and a zed barely scrapes you as your running away from it, only to find out it took out over 1k in blood and you're bleeding half to death.Meanwhile, you can sit there and whack them with a hatchet and get smacked 2-3 times and not bleed from that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sudZ! 115 Posted July 29, 2012 Bump the pistol damage by 150% against zombies and you're good to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kin0 21 Posted July 29, 2012 If you're shooting at zeds you either have a death wish or love to fire your gun. There's no reason to shoot them. You can now lose zeds in trees. Just sit in one, they won't see you. It doesn't get any easier.If it's too hard for you, you should probably consider playing cod again.There's a serious issue with random aggro.I've proned my way through a city, only to have a zed rage at random from half way across the map (I thought another player ran past it, but nope it just roid raged) and ran in a semi-circle around me, then directly at me.The entire time I was prone, the entire time I did not move.I don't play COD at all, can't stand the game and even I know BS when I see it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anton17 97 Posted July 29, 2012 (edited) 1. Died 3 time today being knocked out with a little under 8000 blood ... and i mean by first hit by the z. no chance to survive the unconsciousness ... Thats way to hard if you die with 2/3 of your health and u cant do shit about it very frustrating2. The evading / hitboxes of z is ridiculous - sometimes u dont hit with the hatchet them standing in ur face and sometimes u hit em 2 m away ... broken and therefore nofun/skill/learnable5. Respawning time/amount of z´s is way to fast and not realistic and is disproportionate to the loot ..Have to say these are very good points that I've thought about for a while.1) I understand the random effect that zombie damage can have given your blood, but in my experience, it literally is if you're under 8000 blood and get zombie punched, you're unconscious and get eaten alive. Seems ridiculous? I've killed two players only to have a zombie come at me from the sound of gun fire, hit me once, and I'm on the floor to die right by my dead victim. It seems too stupid to be true. Having to kill another player using wit, skill, experience, force, luck... only to have a zombie effectively 1HKO you on a 'random' roll right next to your dead opponent. I wouldn't be saying this if it only happened once but its happened several times. If you're under 8 or 9 thousand blood, stay the fuck away from anything.2) Hatchet aiming in general seems bugged but since they're supposed to be the 'silent killer' for zombies it is quite annoying to have it work so inconsistently, especially if you were new to the game. If having a hatchet as a weapon is supposed to be a real solution for zombie killing, it needs to be: a] Able to be equipped without having to fuck around, dropping your gun and reloading it and whatnot when you're trying to be tactical and stealthy with a silent weapon - it really makes it a laughable irony, and b] The hatchet aiming/zombie hit box needs to be worked on.3) Got to say, initial Zombie spawns seems pretty fair throughout the game, even in high-loot areas. But the respawn definitely needs considering. Helicopter crash sites, I can understand the respawn rate needing to be high, but not in a bloody abandoned shed or petrol station. Edited July 29, 2012 by Anton17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a_casual_banana 38 Posted July 29, 2012 I have to agree on the aggro, that needs to get sorted out.But, I also kind of like it, it adds challenge to the game. My friends and I used to do speed loots, where we would run to where we're going, dispatch the zeds that follow, and loot, then we get out. Whole thing done in 5 minutes.Now, if we shoot our 1911's or AKM's, god help us! Normally, I try to only use one mag a day on my AKM/AK/M4/M16, but in ONE zombie encounter, I used 4. It was crazy! Killed 120 zombies, there were only like 60 on the server after that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewanderer 16 Posted July 29, 2012 its like they are trying to make the zombies in a zombie survival game something to worry about.....Zombies that are looking your way will see you from along way away in day light, at night you can almost walk into them if you are quiet enough.You just need to think more and watch what you are walking on, different surfaces not only make more noise but also make you more visible.poeple need to stop just running around spamming bullets and think more about where they are going and whats around. This is not a pick up and run like an idiot game, its a tactical thinking game.And for those who will say "well I was crouch walking!!11!!" crouch on a road in day light and I guarantee a zombie will spot you, crouch in the grass and you are probably safe.Also zombies are way way easier to lose in the latest patch 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xRoosterx 2 Posted July 29, 2012 I think the leg breaking is a bit much. Maybe make it more rare to see a leg break from a zed. But besides that zeds are too easy. I can still crouch walk thru towns with relative ease. If you do pick some up they are easy to lose. The only time I crawl is when other players are present that I don't know. The deathmatch and "kos" won't end til the zombies are even harder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunnz 24 Posted July 29, 2012 Zombies are easy to lose, they are not actually easy.They are powerful in terms of speed, strength and vision. Once you shoot one you get a lot more on you.Now i dont really have a problem with this( except their speed, which IMO is just ridiculous and Rockets reason for the speed is bullshit, play chernarus apocalypse were the zombies run as the same speed as you ,No "losing" problems at all and even though they do zig zag its not as stupidly crazy) BUT I dont want them to be slow, just in-between their current speed and the full speed of a survivor running. Also reducing the re spawn timer from 10 seconds to like a minute would be better, reminds me of FAR CRY 2 with the quick respawns... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owynyo 2 Posted July 29, 2012 I've proned my way through a city, only to have a zed rage at random from half way across the map (I thought another player ran past it, but nope it just roid raged) and ran in a semi-circle around me, then directly at me.The entire time I was prone, the entire time I did not move.It depends in what terrain you're going prone. If you're on a street/similar terrain you'll be visible (One bar visibility while prone). The only way to be invsible while prone is in dense grass or at night.I don't know what "from across" the map is in your eyes. But it's entirely possible that a zed sees you from 15 meters if you have 1 bar visibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The2ndLink 156 Posted July 29, 2012 Still too easy... - You can shake them off easily in pine trees.- They can't damage you as long as you keep running.- If a enterable house is near you you can shake them off as well if you got a second exit.- Or you just headshot them with sidearms or two shots in the chest with any AK, one with a AKM. Weapons which are easy to get.If you think Zombies are too hard atm you are doing something wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xtro (DayZ) 2 Posted July 29, 2012 The hell? Too hard?You guys remember that this is a "zombie" themed survival game?Realistic "Zombies" with custom animations - These once human creatures will act and behave as if they have a heighten sense of hearing and smell but less sight, on top of that they use motion captured animations such as walking and eating from your unconscious body. If you look into any built up area you'll see them walking around waiting for their next victim which dares to venture in.Thats what it says in the What is Day Z? section. If they were not hard (too easy and too few atm imo), whats the point having them in this game? As a mild annoyance while shufflin' through towns? Cannibalistic dead/alive lunatics are supposed to be scary and difficult to kill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kin0 21 Posted July 29, 2012 It depends in what terrain you're going prone. If you're on a street/similar terrain you'll be visible (One bar visibility while prone). The only way to be invsible while prone is in dense grass or at night.I don't know what "from across" the map is in your eyes. But it's entirely possible that a zed sees you from 15 meters if you have 1 bar visibility.For the record, across the map is when the zed is about a half inch on my screen. In other words, barely within my visible spectrum.I find it difficult to believe that a zombie with rotted out eyes has 20/20 night vision.Hearing, I can beileve. Sight, not so much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuji (DayZ) 8 Posted July 29, 2012 the problem is that they are now op in certain situations.. like in buildings that you can't run out ofand having to run to the forest every time you get aggro gets old fastalso its not worth it to shoot them anymore.. but people LIKE shooting zombies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaimou 49 Posted July 29, 2012 Only thing thats wrong with zombies is that they:1. Are deaf.2. Spawn too close to the player.3. Their respawn time is too short. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewanderer 16 Posted July 29, 2012 For the record, across the map is when the zed is about a half inch on my screen. In other words, barely within my visible spectrum.I find it difficult to believe that a zombie with rotted out eyes has 20/20 night vision.Hearing, I can beileve. Sight, not so much.they are infected, NOT undead. They dont have rotting eyes. If you can see them why should they not be able to see you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tarquinbb 28 Posted July 29, 2012 For the record, across the map is when the zed is about a half inch on my screen. In other words, barely within my visible spectrum.I find it difficult to believe that a zombie with rotted out eyes has 20/20 night vision.Hearing, I can beileve. Sight, not so much.actually they have enhanced feral demon eyes.(find proof that they have rotted out eyes and i'll find proof that they have demon eyes) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The2ndLink 156 Posted July 29, 2012 (edited) the problem is that they are now op in certain situations.. like in buildings that you can't run out ofand having to run to the forest every time you get aggro gets old fastalso its not worth it to shoot them anymore.. but people LIKE shooting zombiesSure it's worth shooting them.Got about 100 new Z kills today. Edited July 29, 2012 by The2ndLink Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xtro (DayZ) 2 Posted July 29, 2012 also its not worth it to shoot them anymore.. but people LIKE shooting zombiesIf that mofo is about to eat your face, you think its not worth to shoot it? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thewanderer 16 Posted July 29, 2012 the problem is that they are now op in certain situations.. like in buildings that you can't run out ofand having to run to the forest every time you get aggro gets old fastThats the point, it should be risky to go in a building looking for loot and get trapped there by the horde. its not OP its the way it should be, the zombies have been so little risk up until now.Also you dont need to go to the forest to lose them, they are way easier to lose now. just run round a couple of corners and they are gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrappa 0 Posted July 29, 2012 manoevering around built up areas attempting to not aggro every single Zombie is near impossible. i know exactly what all the smart arses are saying about 1 bar vision and the Zombies are easy to avoid but thats bullshit. Every attempt to loot ends up in a flat out sprint Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kin0 21 Posted July 29, 2012 they are infected, NOT undead. They dont have rotting eyes. If you can see them why should they not be able to see you?I thought this game was DayZ, not DayI...These are supposed to be Zombies, not "infected" superhumans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kin0 21 Posted July 29, 2012 actually they have enhanced feral demon eyes.(find proof that they have rotted out eyes and i'll find proof that they have demon eyes)The way they can spot me from sniper-distance, I'd be inclined to agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites