purpple 9 Posted January 5, 2017 Hello everybody, I have a question (did search for it but can't find any proper explaination), here it is : - imagine on a private or public server (i think it does not matter) that a team manage to pick up all the loot on the map and stock it in tents, if i come on this server, will i be able to find any loot ? I know if you touch or move loot in tent, it keeps timer up to max. I remember Mr Hicks, saying, i think, that number of loot is limited on the map, either canned food, weapons, etc, so if there is only 3 SVD on the map (even if server keep restarting) and those 3 SVD are inside a tent, will i be able to find one on the map ? Thx for reply everybody, i really need to understand this game mechanics. Cheers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GaryWalnuts 1680 Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) I don't believe that loot that has been moved to persistent storage contributes into the Central Loot Economy formula. AFAIK the CLE and Persistence are two completely different systems. Once an item is picked up from it's original spawn location it's gone from the CLE count completely, whether it ends up in character inventory, persistent storage or the items are discarded on the ground. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong but in theory you should be able to have 100 tents filled with loot and the server will continue to spawn loot the same as an empty/unused server. Edited January 5, 2017 by GaryWalnuts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purpple 9 Posted January 5, 2017 13 minutes ago, GaryWalnuts said: Someone will correct me if I'm wrong but in theory you should be able to have 100 tents filled with loot and the server will continue to spawn loot the same as an empty/unused server. Hummm, you think ? Thanks to try to understand it with me, but we need a proper explaination (BatyAlquawen ?^^) . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HaseDesTodes 315 Posted January 5, 2017 afiar items in storage containers (barrels, tents, cars, droped backpacks, etc.) or player inventorys don't count for loot spawns. on the other hand, tents barrels and such won't spawn if the server maximum is reached. i guess you could still bring those from other servers to expand your 20 tents base. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purpple 9 Posted January 5, 2017 40 minutes ago, HaseDesTodes said: afiar items in storage containers (barrels, tents, cars, droped backpacks, etc.) or player inventorys don't count for loot spawns. on the other hand, tents barrels and such won't spawn if the server maximum is reached. i guess you could still bring those from other servers to expand your 20 tents base. Ok, so if we want, we can store 100 svd, 1000 tactical bacon, 50 akm etc, is that correct ? What is the maximum numbers for tents and barrels on a server ? If tents and barrels are limited, why the rest of the loot is not ? Do you have an official source for your information please, thx. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sneakydude 480 Posted January 5, 2017 31 minutes ago, purpple said: Ok, so if we want, we can store 100 svd, 1000 tactical bacon, 50 akm etc, is that correct ? What is the maximum numbers for tents and barrels on a server ? If tents and barrels are limited, why the rest of the loot is not ? Do you have an official source for your information please, thx. If the devs wanted to restrict the numbers of items that spawn, minus what is already looted and stored in tents they can. (private servers) Since the world we know, may only have 10 svd's total does it not sound right to restrict those items for this world? I would say yes, personally but given that this also requires a complete sub coding system to restrict all the items in the server we will end up with nothing but loot farmers per server. Since only 1 svd is normally in use or a couple per server, i would see it only involves storage at this point. With the chances someone will find the tents and loot everything they can. The only problem that needs to be fixed would be the lag bubble, on loot leaving the area to find peoples storage containers. There will be restrictions of cars, trucks etc... that i am aware of. Too many just over populate the server. Restrictions on how much loot by % over 100 items is a better system. with a .000000001% chance an SVD spawns in a house. It would take a person ages to find 10 SVD's. Since the game is only in alpha right now your going to find unrestricted amounts. expect that to be hardcore on release. Now it would be a different protocol when hive jumping with an SVD, would it effect the spawn after 15 minutes reload timers?? It makes the whole system seem wrong then. So it would be best to handle new loot spawning at a much lower % rate then it would be to calculate the total numbers per server? see where i am going with this. Restrictions on how much loot by % over 100 items is a better system. with a .000000001% chance an SVD spawns in a house Example: /** Result of 100 rounds: Chemlight_yellow hgun_Rook40_F Exile_Item_Can_Empty V_Rangemaster_belt Exile_Item_CanOpener Binocular Exile_Item_Moobar Exile_Item_PlasticBottleEmpty SMG_05_F Exile_Item_Raisins Exile_Item_SeedAstics FlareWhite_F Exile_Item_Cheathas U_I_C_Soldier_Bandit_2_F B_OutdoorPack_blk H_Hat_checker U_I_C_Soldier_Bandit_2_F FlareGreen_F H_Cap_blk Exile_Item_Magazine01 Exile_Item_EMRE FlareWhite_F Chemlight_yellow Exile_Item_PlasticBottleDirtyWater Exile_Magazine_8Rnd_74Slug Exile_Item_SausageGravy U_I_C_Soldier_Bandit_1_F Exile_Item_ToiletPaper ItemMap Exile_Item_Moobar hgun_PDW2000_F 6Rnd_GreenSignal_F B_AssaultPack_cbr Exile_Item_Can_Empty Exile_Item_CockONut V_Rangemaster_belt FlareGreen_F Exile_Item_CanOpener FlareWhite_F Chemlight_red U_I_C_Soldier_Bandit_5_F B_HuntingBackpack Exile_Weapon_M1014 FlareRed_F Exile_Item_PlasticBottleEmpty Exile_Magazine_8Rnd_74Slug Exile_Item_ToiletPaper Chemlight_red Exile_Weapon_M1014 U_C_Poloshirt_tricolour Exile_Item_ToiletPaper H_Hat_brown Exile_Item_PlasticBottleEmpty Exile_Item_Cheathas Exile_Item_ChocolateMilk optic_Hamr_khk_F H_Hat_blue B_OutdoorPack_tan Exile_Item_Can_Empty Exile_Item_InstantCoffee U_C_Poloshirt_stripped Exile_Item_ChocolateMilk B_AssaultPack_khk Exile_Item_Magazine04 B_OutdoorPack_blk Exile_Item_BeefParts Exile_Item_ChristmasTinner Exile_Item_BeefParts Exile_Item_CockONut Exile_Item_EnergyDrink ItemMap Exile_Item_PlasticBottleEmpty arifle_MX_F Exile_Item_EnergyDrink H_Hat_checker Exile_Weapon_M1014 Exile_Item_PlasticBottleEmpty Exile_Item_MobilePhone Chemlight_red arifle_MX_GL_khk_F Exile_Item_Raisins U_C_HunterBody_grn 6Rnd_RedSignal_F H_StrawHat_dark Exile_Item_Magazine04 Exile_Magazine_8Rnd_74Slug U_C_man_sport_2_F Exile_Item_Magazine03 SMG_05_F Exile_Item_BBQSandwich U_C_HunterBody_grn Exile_Item_EnergyDrink H_Cap_blu optic_MRD Exile_Item_SausageGravy V_Press_F U_OrestesBody B_AssaultPack_dgtl U_C_Poor_shorts_1 U_C_HunterBody_grn */ class CivillianUpperClass { count = 295; half = 9336.05248315373; halfIndex = 147; sum = 9999.99999999997; items[] = { {380.710659898477, "Exile_Item_Can_Empty"}, // 3.81% {761.421319796954, "Exile_Item_ToiletPaper"}, // 3.81% {1142.13197969543, "Exile_Item_PlasticBottleEmpty"}, // 3.81% {1345.17766497462, "Exile_Weapon_M1014"}, // 2.03% {1497.46192893401, "Exile_Magazine_8Rnd_74Slug"}, // 1.52% {1624.3654822335, "V_Rangemaster_belt"}, // 1.27% {1751.269035533, "Chemlight_blue"}, // 1.27% {1878.17258883249, "Chemlight_green"}, // 1.27% {2005.07614213198, "Chemlight_red"}, // 1.27% {2131.97969543147, "Chemlight_yellow"}, // 1.27% {2258.88324873096, "FlareYellow_F"}, // 1.27% {2385.78680203046, "FlareGreen_F"}, // 1.27% {2512.69035532995, "FlareWhite_F"}, // 1.27% {2639.59390862944, "FlareRed_F"}, // 1.27% {2761.42131979695, "Exile_Item_PlasticBottleDirtyWater"}, // 1.22% {2874.22447828539, "Exile_Item_Heatpack"}, // 1.13% {2982.79751833051, "Exile_Item_InstantCoffee"}, // 1.09% {3084.32036097011, "Exile_Item_ChocolateMilk"}, // 1.02% {3183.02312464749, "ItemMap"}, // 0.99% {3278.20078962211, "Exile_Item_Magazine03"}, // 0.95% {3373.37845459673, "Exile_Item_Magazine04"}, // 0.95% {3468.55611957135, "Exile_Item_Magazine02"}, // 0.95% {3563.73378454597, "Exile_Item_Magazine01"}, // 0.95% {3652.56627185561, "Exile_Item_Raisins"}, // 0.89% {3741.39875916526, "Exile_Item_Moobar"}, // 0.89% {3826.00112803158, "ItemWatch"}, // 0.85% {3910.60349689791, "ItemRadio"}, // 0.85% {3991.82177100959, "Exile_Item_MountainDupe"}, // 0.81% {4070.78398195149, "Exile_Item_CockONut"}, // 0.79% {4149.7461928934, "Exile_Item_SeedAstics"}, // 0.79% {4218.83812746757, "Exile_Item_Surstromming"}, // 0.69% {4287.93006204174, "Exile_Item_SausageGravy"}, // 0.69% {4357.0219966159, "Exile_Item_MacasCheese"}, // 0.69% {4426.11393119007, "Exile_Item_BBQSandwich"}, // 0.69% {4495.20586576424, "Exile_Item_CatFood"}, // 0.69% {4564.29780033841, "Exile_Item_ChristmasTinner"}, // 0.69% {4633.38973491257, "Exile_Item_BeefParts"}, // 0.69% {4702.48166948674, "Exile_Item_Cheathas"}, // 0.69% {4771.57360406091, "Exile_Item_DsNuts"}, // 0.69% {4840.66553863508, "Exile_Item_Noodles"}, // 0.69% {4909.75747320925, "Exile_Item_Dogfood"}, // 0.69% {4978.79300620417, "Exile_Item_EnergyDrink"}, // 0.69% {5042.24478285392, "V_Press_F"}, // 0.63% {5105.69655950366, "V_TacVest_blk_POLICE"}, // 0.63% {5166.61026508742, "H_Cap_press"}, // 0.61% {5227.52397067117, "H_Cap_red"}, // 0.61% {5288.43767625493, "H_Cap_tan"}, // 0.61% {5349.35138183869, "H_Hat_blue"}, // 0.61% {5410.26508742244, "H_Hat_tan"}, // 0.61% {5471.1787930062, "H_Hat_checker"}, // 0.61% {5532.09249858996, "H_Hat_grey"}, // 0.61% {5593.00620417371, "H_StrawHat_dark"}, // 0.61% {5653.91990975747, "H_Hat_brown"}, // 0.61% {5714.83361534123, "H_StrawHat"}, // 0.61% {5774.05527354766, "Exile_Item_GloriousKnakworst"}, // 0.59% {5830.90806542583, "Exile_Item_Beer"}, // 0.57% {5887.30964467005, "ItemGPS"}, // 0.56% {5943.71122391427, "Binocular"}, // 0.56% {5998.53355893965, "muzzle_snds_L"}, // 0.55% {6053.35589396503, "muzzle_snds_acp"}, // 0.55% {6106.7889690385, "U_C_Poor_2"}, // 0.53% {6160.22204411197, "U_C_Poor_shorts_1"}, // 0.53% {6213.65511918544, "U_C_HunterBody_grn"}, // 0.53% {6267.08819425891, "U_C_Journalist"}, // 0.53% {6320.52126933238, "U_C_Scientist"}, // 0.53% {6373.95434440585, "U_C_Poor_1"}, // 0.53% {6427.38741947932, "U_Rangemaster"}, // 0.53% {6479.5720582193, "B_OutdoorPack_blk"}, // 0.52% {6531.47847400496, "SMG_01_F"}, // 0.52% {6582.23989532476, "H_Cap_blk_Raven"}, // 0.51% {6633.00131664455, "H_Cap_grn"}, // 0.51% {6683.76273796435, "H_Cap_oli"}, // 0.51% {6734.52415928415, "H_Cap_headphones"}, // 0.51% {6785.28558060394, "H_Bandanna_surfer"}, // 0.51% {6836.04700192374, "H_Beret_blk_POLICE"}, // 0.51% {6886.80842324354, "H_Cap_blk"}, // 0.51% {6937.56984456333, "H_Cap_blu"}, // 0.51% {6988.33126588313, "Exile_Item_ZipTie"}, // 0.51% {7038.71102238097, "SMG_02_F"}, // 0.50% {7089.09077887882, "SMG_05_F"}, // 0.50% {7139.47053537666, "hgun_PDW2000_F"}, // 0.50% {7188.82191721535, "Exile_Item_CanOpener"}, // 0.49% {7238.17329905404, "Exile_Item_Matches"}, // 0.49% {7286.90426352105, "Exile_Item_PlasticBottleFreshWater"}, // 0.49% {7334.81391959816, "hgun_P07_F"}, // 0.48% {7381.78009446414, "B_OutdoorPack_tan"}, // 0.47% {7428.74626933012, "B_OutdoorPack_blu"}, // 0.47% {7474.37451321309, "hgun_Rook40_F"}, // 0.46% {7520.00275709605, "hgun_ACPC2_F"}, // 0.46% {7561.75046808803, "B_HuntingBackpack"}, // 0.42% {7603.30952647851, "U_C_Poloshirt_tricolour"}, // 0.42% {7644.86858486899, "U_C_Poloshirt_blue"}, // 0.42% {7686.42764325946, "U_C_Poloshirt_burgundy"}, // 0.42% {7727.98670164994, "U_C_Poloshirt_stripped"}, // 0.42% {7769.54576004042, "U_C_Poloshirt_salmon"}, // 0.42% {7806.0750071584, "B_AssaultPack_rgr"}, // 0.37% {7842.60425427639, "B_AssaultPack_sgg"}, // 0.37% {7879.13350139437, "B_AssaultPack_blk"}, // 0.37% {7915.66274851235, "B_AssaultPack_cbr"}, // 0.37% {7952.19199563034, "B_AssaultPack_tna_F"}, // 0.37% {7988.72124274832, "B_AssaultPack_khk"}, // 0.37% {8025.25048986631, "B_AssaultPack_dgtl"}, // 0.37% {8061.77973698429, "B_AssaultPack_mcamo"}, // 0.37% {8091.46477869178, "U_I_C_Soldier_Bandit_5_F"}, // 0.30% {8121.14982039926, "U_I_C_Soldier_Bandit_2_F"}, // 0.30% {8150.83486210674, "U_I_C_Soldier_Bandit_3_F"}, // 0.30% {8180.51990381423, "U_I_C_Soldier_Bandit_4_F"}, // 0.30% {8210.20494552171, "U_I_C_Soldier_Bandit_1_F"}, // 0.30% {8239.8899872292, "U_C_man_sport_1_F"}, // 0.30% {8269.57502893668, "U_C_Man_casual_5_F"}, // 0.30% {8299.26007064416, "U_C_Man_casual_6_F"}, // 0.30% {8328.94511235165, "U_C_Man_casual_3_F"}, // 0.30% {8358.63015405913, "U_C_Man_casual_2_F"}, // 0.30% {8388.31519576661, "U_C_Man_casual_1_F"}, // 0.30% {8418.0002374741, "U_C_man_sport_3_F"}, // 0.30% {8447.68527918158, "U_C_man_sport_2_F"}, // 0.30% {8477.37032088907, "U_C_Man_casual_4_F"}, // 0.30% {8507.02867941299, "hgun_Pistol_heavy_01_F"}, // 0.30% {8536.68703793692, "hgun_Pistol_heavy_02_F"}, // 0.30% {8566.34539646084, "Exile_Weapon_Colt1911"}, // 0.30% {8596.00375498477, "hgun_Pistol_Signal_F"}, // 0.30% {8625.6621135087, "hgun_P07_khk_F"}, // 0.30% {8655.32047203262, "Exile_Weapon_Taurus"}, // 0.30% {8684.97883055655, "Exile_Weapon_TaurusGold"}, // 0.30% {8714.63718908047, "hgun_Pistol_01_F"}, // 0.30% {8744.2955476044, "Exile_Weapon_Makarov"}, // 0.30% {8773.90637670761, "Exile_Item_EMRE"}, // 0.30% {8803.51720581083, "Exile_Item_CookingPot"}, // 0.30% {8831.94360174991, "Exile_Item_PowerDrink"}, // 0.28% {8860.14439137202, "9Rnd_45ACP_Mag"}, // 0.28% {8888.34518099413, "Exile_Magazine_7Rnd_45ACP"}, // 0.28% {8916.54597061624, "Exile_Magazine_8Rnd_9x18"}, // 0.28% {8944.74676023835, "Exile_Magazine_6Rnd_45ACP"}, // 0.28% {8972.94754986046, "30Rnd_9x21_Mag"}, // 0.28% {9001.14833948257, "11Rnd_45ACP_Mag"}, // 0.28% {9029.34912910468, "10Rnd_9x21_Mag"}, // 0.28% {9055.44144847467, "B_Kitbag_cbr"}, // 0.26% {9081.53376784466, "B_Kitbag_sgg"}, // 0.26% {9107.62608721465, "B_Kitbag_mcamo"}, // 0.26% {9133.00679787454, "30Rnd_9x21_Mag_SMG_02"}, // 0.25% {9158.38750853444, "optic_Holosight_smg"}, // 0.25% {9183.76821919434, "optic_Holosight_smg_blk_F"}, // 0.25% {9209.14892985424, "30Rnd_9x21_Mag_SMG_02_Tracer_Yellow"}, // 0.25% {9234.52964051414, "30Rnd_45ACP_Mag_SMG_01_Tracer_Green"}, // 0.25% {9259.91035117403, "30Rnd_9x21_Mag_SMG_02_Tracer_Green"}, // 0.25% {9285.29106183393, "30Rnd_9x21_Mag_SMG_02_Tracer_Red"}, // 0.25% {9310.67177249383, "optic_ACO_grn_smg"}, // 0.25% {9336.05248315373, "optic_ACO_grn"}, // 0.25% {9361.43319381363, "30Rnd_45ACP_Mag_SMG_01"}, // 0.25% {9386.81390447352, "optic_Aco"}, // 0.25% {9412.19461513342, "optic_Aco_smg"}, // 0.25% {9434.75524683111, "6Rnd_45ACP_Cylinder"}, // 0.23% {9456.07504378542, "optic_MRD"}, // 0.21% {9477.39484073974, "optic_Yorris"}, // 0.21% {9491.49523555079, "16Rnd_9x21_Mag"}, // 0.14% {9505.59563036185, "Exile_Item_MobilePhone"}, // 0.14% {9515.46590672959, "6Rnd_RedSignal_F"}, // 0.10% {9525.33618309732, "6Rnd_GreenSignal_F"}, // 0.10% {9532.46654997168, "acc_flashlight"}, // 0.07% {9538.40355831317, "U_NikosBody"}, // 0.06% {9544.34056665467, "U_NikosAgedBody"}, // 0.06% {9550.27757499617, "U_OrestesBody"}, // 0.06% {9555.75542621773, "30Rnd_65x39_caseless_green"}, // 0.05% {9561.23327743929, "30Rnd_556x45_Stanag_red"}, // 0.05% {9566.71112866085, "30Rnd_556x45_Stanag_green"}, // 0.05% {9572.18897988241, "30Rnd_556x45_Stanag"}, // 0.05% {9577.28209907838, "muzzle_snds_H_khk_F"}, // 0.05% {9582.37521827434, "muzzle_snds_65_TI_blk_F"}, // 0.05% {9587.46833747031, "muzzle_snds_65_TI_hex_F"}, // 0.05% {9592.56145666628, "muzzle_snds_65_TI_ghex_F"}, // 0.05% {9597.65457586224, "muzzle_snds_H_MG_blk_F"}, // 0.05% {9602.74769505821, "muzzle_snds_H_MG_khk_F"}, // 0.05% {9607.84081425418, "optic_Arco"}, // 0.05% {9612.93393345014, "optic_Arco_blk_F"}, // 0.05% {9618.02705264611, "optic_Arco_ghex_F"}, // 0.05% {9623.12017184207, "optic_Hamr"}, // 0.05% {9628.21329103804, "optic_Hamr_khk_F"}, // 0.05% {9633.30641023401, "optic_Holosight"}, // 0.05% {9638.39952942997, "optic_Holosight_blk_F"}, // 0.05% {9643.49264862594, "optic_Holosight_khk_F"}, // 0.05% {9648.58576782191, "acc_pointer_IR"}, // 0.05% {9653.67888701787, "optic_MRCO"}, // 0.05% {9658.77200621384, "optic_DMS"}, // 0.05% {9663.8651254098, "optic_DMS_ghex_F"}, // 0.05% {9668.95824460577, "optic_ERCO_blk_F"}, // 0.05% {9674.05136380174, "optic_ERCO_khk_F"}, // 0.05% {9679.1444829977, "optic_ERCO_snd_F"}, // 0.05% {9684.23760219367, "muzzle_snds_58_wdm_F"}, // 0.05% {9689.33072138964, "muzzle_snds_m_khk_F"}, // 0.05% {9694.4238405856, "muzzle_snds_m_snd_F"}, // 0.05% {9699.51695978157, "muzzle_snds_H_snd_F"}, // 0.05% {9704.61007897753, "muzzle_snds_H"}, // 0.05% {9709.7031981735, "muzzle_snds_M"}, // 0.05% {9714.79631736947, "muzzle_snds_58_blk_F"}, // 0.05% {9718.8250016012, "Exile_Weapon_LeeEnfield"}, // 0.04% {9722.85368583292, "Exile_Weapon_AK74"}, // 0.04% {9726.88237006465, "Exile_Weapon_AK47"}, // 0.04% {9730.91105429638, "Exile_Weapon_AKS_Gold"}, // 0.04% {9734.93973852811, "Exile_Weapon_AK107"}, // 0.04% {9738.96842275984, "Exile_Weapon_DMR"}, // 0.04% {9742.99710699157, "Exile_Weapon_CZ550"}, // 0.04% {9747.0257912233, "Exile_Weapon_SVDCamo"}, // 0.04% {9751.05447545503, "Exile_Weapon_AK74_GL"}, // 0.04% {9755.08315968676, "Exile_Weapon_VSSVintorez"}, // 0.04% {9759.11184391849, "arifle_Katiba_F"}, // 0.04% {9763.14052815022, "Exile_Weapon_SVD"}, // 0.04% {9767.16921238194, "Exile_Weapon_AK107_GL"}, // 0.04% {9771.18630327776, "20Rnd_556x45_UW_mag"}, // 0.04% {9774.47301401069, "30Rnd_65x39_caseless_mag_Tracer"}, // 0.03% {9777.75972474363, "Exile_Magazine_30Rnd_762x39_AK"}, // 0.03% {9781.04643547657, "Exile_Magazine_30Rnd_545x39_AK"}, // 0.03% {9784.3331462095, "Exile_Magazine_30Rnd_545x39_AK_Green"}, // 0.03% {9787.61985694244, "Exile_Magazine_20Rnd_762x51_DMR_White"}, // 0.03% {9790.90656767538, "30Rnd_556x45_Stanag_Tracer_Red"}, // 0.03% {9794.19327840831, "30Rnd_556x45_Stanag_Tracer_Yellow"}, // 0.03% {9797.47998914125, "30Rnd_65x39_caseless_green_mag_Tracer"}, // 0.03% {9800.76669987419, "30Rnd_65x39_caseless_mag"}, // 0.03% {9804.05341060712, "Exile_Magazine_30Rnd_545x39_AK_Red"}, // 0.03% {9807.34012134006, "30Rnd_556x45_Stanag_Tracer_Green"}, // 0.03% {9810.626832073, "Exile_Magazine_30Rnd_545x39_AK_Yellow"}, // 0.03% {9813.91354280593, "Exile_Magazine_10Rnd_762x54"}, // 0.03% {9817.20025353887, "Exile_Magazine_10Rnd_9x39"}, // 0.03% {9820.48696427181, "Exile_Magazine_20Rnd_9x39"}, // 0.03% {9823.77367500474, "30Rnd_762x39_Mag_F"}, // 0.03% {9827.06038573768, "30Rnd_762x39_Mag_Green_F"}, // 0.03% {9830.34709647062, "30Rnd_762x39_Mag_Tracer_F"}, // 0.03% {9833.63380720355, "30Rnd_762x39_Mag_Tracer_Green_F"}, // 0.03% {9836.92051793649, "30Rnd_762x39_AK47_M"}, // 0.03% {9840.20722866943, "30Rnd_545x39_Mag_F"}, // 0.03% {9843.49393940236, "30Rnd_545x39_Mag_Green_F"}, // 0.03% {9846.7806501353, "30Rnd_545x39_Mag_Tracer_F"}, // 0.03% {9850.06736086824, "30Rnd_545x39_Mag_Tracer_Green_F"}, // 0.03% {9853.35407160117, "Exile_Magazine_30Rnd_545x39_AK_White"}, // 0.03% {9856.64078233411, "Exile_Magazine_5Rnd_22LR"}, // 0.03% {9859.92749306705, "150Rnd_556x45_Drum_Mag_Tracer_F"}, // 0.03% {9863.21420379998, "Exile_Magazine_20Rnd_762x51_DMR"}, // 0.03% {9866.50091453292, "Exile_Magazine_20Rnd_762x51_DMR_Green"}, // 0.03% {9869.78762526586, "Exile_Magazine_20Rnd_762x51_DMR_Red"}, // 0.03% {9873.07433599879, "150Rnd_556x45_Drum_Mag_F"}, // 0.03% {9876.36104673173, "30Rnd_580x42_Mag_F"}, // 0.03% {9879.64775746467, "30Rnd_580x42_Mag_Tracer_F"}, // 0.03% {9882.9344681976, "20Rnd_762x51_Mag"}, // 0.03% {9886.22117893054, "100Rnd_580x42_Mag_F"}, // 0.03% {9889.50788966348, "100Rnd_580x42_Mag_Tracer_F"}, // 0.03% {9892.79460039641, "Exile_Magazine_20Rnd_762x51_DMR_Yellow"}, // 0.03% {9896.0175477818, "arifle_MX_khk_F"}, // 0.03% {9899.24049516718, "arifle_TRG20_F"}, // 0.03% {9902.46344255256, "arifle_MX_F"}, // 0.03% {9905.68638993795, "arifle_MXC_F"}, // 0.03% {9908.90933732333, "arifle_Katiba_GL_F"}, // 0.03% {9912.13228470872, "arifle_TRG21_F"}, // 0.03% {9915.3552320941, "arifle_MXC_khk_F"}, // 0.03% {9918.2767527456, "Exile_Magazine_10Rnd_303"}, // 0.03% {9921.09683170781, "arifle_Mk20C_F"}, // 0.03% {9923.91691067002, "arifle_Mk20_F"}, // 0.03% {9926.46347026801, "optic_NVS"}, // 0.03% {9928.88068080704, "arifle_SDAR_F"}, // 0.02% {9931.29789134608, "arifle_MXM_F"}, // 0.02% {9933.31223346194, "arifle_SPAR_03_snd_F"}, // 0.02% {9935.32657557781, "arifle_SPAR_03_khk_F"}, // 0.02% {9937.34091769367, "arifle_AKM_FL_F"}, // 0.02% {9939.35525980954, "arifle_AK12_F"}, // 0.02% {9941.3696019254, "arifle_SPAR_01_GL_khk_F"}, // 0.02% {9943.38394404127, "arifle_SPAR_01_khk_F"}, // 0.02% {9945.39828615713, "arifle_SPAR_01_blk_F"}, // 0.02% {9947.412628273, "arifle_SPAR_01_GL_snd_F"}, // 0.02% {9949.42697038886, "arifle_SPAR_02_blk_F"}, // 0.02% {9951.44131250472, "arifle_SPAR_02_khk_F"}, // 0.02% {9953.45565462059, "arifle_SPAR_02_snd_F"}, // 0.02% {9955.46999673645, "arifle_CTARS_hex_F"}, // 0.02% {9957.48433885232, "arifle_CTARS_ghex_F"}, // 0.02% {9959.49868096818, "arifle_CTARS_blk_F"}, // 0.02% {9961.51302308405, "arifle_CTAR_GL_blk_F"}, // 0.02% {9963.52736519991, "arifle_CTAR_ghex_F"}, // 0.02% {9965.54170731578, "arifle_CTAR_hex_F"}, // 0.02% {9967.55604943164, "arifle_CTAR_blk_F"}, // 0.02% {9969.57039154751, "arifle_ARX_hex_F"}, // 0.02% {9971.58473366337, "arifle_ARX_ghex_F"}, // 0.02% {9973.59907577924, "arifle_ARX_blk_F"}, // 0.02% {9975.6134178951, "arifle_AKS_F"}, // 0.02% {9977.62776001096, "arifle_AKM_F"}, // 0.02% {9979.64210212683, "arifle_AK12_GL_F"}, // 0.02% {9981.65644424269, "arifle_SPAR_03_blk_F"}, // 0.02% {9983.67078635856, "arifle_SPAR_01_snd_F"}, // 0.02% {9985.68512847442, "arifle_SPAR_01_GL_blk_F"}, // 0.02% {9987.51107888161, "10Rnd_50BW_Mag_F"}, // 0.02% {9989.1225525743, "arifle_Mk20_GL_F"}, // 0.02% {9990.73402626699, "arifle_MX_GL_F"}, // 0.02% {9992.34549995969, "arifle_MX_GL_khk_F"}, // 0.02% {9993.95697365238, "arifle_TRG21_GL_F"}, // 0.02% {9995.1655789219, "arifle_MXM_Black_F"}, // 0.01% {9996.37418419142, "arifle_MXC_Black_F"}, // 0.01% {9997.58278946094, "arifle_MXM_khk_F"}, // 0.01% {9998.79139473046, "arifle_MX_GL_Black_F"}, // 0.01% {9999.99999999997, "arifle_MX_Black_F"} // 0.01% }; }; This is a pure example, of what can be done right. Compiled, exile example. You can also make a no loot item, with a higher chance it drops then anything to offset maybe the difference you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purpple 9 Posted January 5, 2017 Thx Sneakydude for this long post, but, i'am sorry, first i'am not really good in english, second, some of your sentences are really hard to understand^^. I understood like 60% of what you said ! Please clarify for me i'am 6 years old^^ ! Thx. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purpple 9 Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Ok ok...i read it a long time ago ...thx anyway guys. If nothing as changed, everything in tents/barrel/backpacks does not affect what can be found : Eugen said : "Each item in persistence binary also carries a lifetime value, Aka the time in seconds it can stay on the ground before expiring. Tents and backpacks/cases have the value greatly increased while other items diminish in matter of hours. Thus the loot caches should only happen with tents/cases/backpacks. While the system cleanes these items, it quickly starts restocking the original spawn points (memory points on buildings). Items in tents/backpacks/player inventories are not part of the calculation!" So, ok. We can find loot, even if there is a tent with 10 svd's in it, i still can find one ! Understand my concern about loot economy in the game, because if nothing as a lifetime, if storage containers (tents, barrels, future containers) does not decay overtime, what the point to connect to a private server, if we can't build another camp on it, if i cannot find nothing to store loot ? Everything, especially storage container must be maintain to avoid decay over time (making loot inside from pristine to ruined) with, lets say some rare grease from animals (male dear ?) to polish tents for exemple or something like that. My point is that i really hope there will be something done to make the game what it should be : an hardcore survival game, and not a game where we all stockpile weapons in tents to go to PVP, a game where we need to find stuff to maintain other stuff. Thx. Edited January 5, 2017 by purpple Need to correct and add sentences. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weyland Yutani (DayZ) 1159 Posted January 11, 2017 On 1/5/2017 at 11:13 AM, purpple said: Ok, so if we want, we can store 100 svd, 1000 tactical bacon, 50 akm etc, is that correct ? What is the maximum numbers for tents and barrels on a server ? If tents and barrels are limited, why the rest of the loot is not ? Do you have an official source for your information please, thx. There are global rarity for certain items and I think the SVD is one of those items. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sqeezorz 839 Posted January 11, 2017 I suspect by means of diversions tests and views of a private server that the CLE knows all the objects and stores. What I mean is all that is on the server, and it does not matter whether these are now lying on a spawn or stored in a container belong to the Loottable default. This is also stored on the Hive server. Everything a player carries is away from the server and belongs to the Char, which is also stored separately on the Char-hive. The whole makes even a little sense of the future seen when people hoard a lot of things it will be harder to find these things unless you find that base, and this in turn makes a base fought or you have to consider whether it is Meaning "for others". According to Hicks, no base should be "totally safe" before raiding. Looking at these things makes a lot of sense. (This knowledge I / we as people thought they had to hoard a lot of empty magazines in tents ... there were almost no more to find, only when these said tents with the content intentionally despawnt improved the situation again.) I have no proof of this theory except the above-mentioned cognition and the logical conclusion, I have read a lot about the CLE by E.Harton, it is really a complex system that makes us to winners or losers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purpple 9 Posted January 11, 2017 18 hours ago, Weyland Yutani (DayZ) said: There are global rarity for certain items and I think the SVD is one of those items. What's a "global rarity" please ? Thx. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sanguine00 168 Posted January 12, 2017 2 hours ago, purpple said: What's a "global rarity" please ? Thx. I suspect he means that some items, when stored in tents/barrels/inventory do count against the server maximum. So if the SVD is tagged to have a "global rarity" of 2, and 2 are stored in a barrel, then those are the only ones that will exist on the server. The exception being if someone brings one over from another server on the same hive, then it would circulate through the economy until it despawns or a player takes it to another server. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weyland Yutani (DayZ) 1159 Posted January 13, 2017 On 1/11/2017 at 5:39 PM, purpple said: What's a "global rarity" please ? Thx. "We'll say there can only be, for example, a hundred night-vision goggles in the whole world across all servers," Hall explains. "Then, once your character dies, or that item gets destroyed, it makes a new one available to spawn on a server." -Dean Hall In this quote, Dean is obviously referencing the public shard. Doing as such on Private Shards is easier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purpple 9 Posted January 16, 2017 Can anyone explain what means this server description please : BlueWaffleAttackForce.com #1 | UK 3rd person | 6hr Wipes ? Wipe what ? Containers ? And why they do that ? Thx. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sqeezorz 839 Posted January 16, 2017 7 hours ago, purpple said: Can anyone explain what means this server description please : BlueWaffleAttackForce.com #1 | UK 3rd person | 6hr Wipes ? Wipe what ? Containers ? And why they do that ? Thx. I think "map wipe" every 6hr. Here its make not sense to make hidden stores. Save are only all on Char. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purpple 9 Posted January 16, 2017 Ok, thank you sqeezorz. So that's mean they do that for a reason, isn't it ? Which is ? Thx. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
