Osprey98 7 Posted July 26, 2015 the cr 75 is based off of the cz 75 sp-01 that has a an 18 round mag. shouldn't the cr 75 have 18 round mags in the game too? It would make it a viable pistol against the fnx 45 since the cr has half the stopping power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Gews- 7443 Posted July 26, 2015 Yeah, and the Sporter 30-rd mags should be reduced to 25... and the Makarov mags bumped up to 12... It would make it a viable pistol against the fnx 45 since the cr has half the stopping power. Or they could just change the damage... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roguetrooper 201 Posted July 26, 2015 Players should remind that all weapon-suggestions can also be turned against themselves. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
odin_lowe 3686 Posted July 26, 2015 Take the 1911, most powerful out there. I love when players spray and pray, while I aim and kill... B) Seriously though, placeholder, bound to change, and almost everything will have some tweaks and changes once we hit beta. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atempleton 123 Posted July 27, 2015 All pistols bar the Longhorn are supposed to be a stepping stone to the FNX. The CR shouldn't be better performing as a pistol, it should be worse. What should be happening instead is simply that the FNX be made rarer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 27, 2015 Having a higher capacity magazine would not make it perform better than a higher caliber pistol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Osprey98 7 Posted July 27, 2015 i know it wont but im just saying it should have 3 more rounds to be a bit more competitive and more realistic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Gews- 7443 Posted July 28, 2015 The CR shouldn't be better performing as a pistol, it should be worse. What should be happening instead is simply that the FNX be made rarer. Having a higher capacity magazine would not make it perform better than a higher caliber pistol. That's neither here nor there, the point is to have the correct capacity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 28, 2015 Gews, I agree with the OP. I was pointing out to Handgun_Hero that giving it the proper capacity would not make it better than the FNX 45. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whyherro123 2283 Posted July 28, 2015 All pistols bar the Longhorn are supposed to be a stepping stone to the FNX. The CR shouldn't be better performing as a pistol, it should be worse. What should be happening instead is simply that the FNX be made rarer. Tell me, why should the FNX be the "best" handgun? I absolutely HATE when people rate the in-game guns in "tiers" 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atempleton 123 Posted July 28, 2015 The FNX does everything the CR75 does, with two to three times the damage, the same recoil and firing rate, and the ability to add in better sights.It's a superior weapon to every other pistol in every way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stinkenheim 249 Posted July 28, 2015 Tell me, why should the FNX be the "best" handgun? I absolutely HATE when people rate the in-game guns in "tiers"There are always going to be weapons which are better than others. The izh rifle will never outperform an sks likewise a cr pistol will never outperform an fnx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atempleton 123 Posted July 29, 2015 I just don't see any benefit from a larger magazine capacity. It's realistic, but it's also not actually a CZ75, it's a Chernarussian copy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 3, 2015 It's just a name change to avoid problems with trademarks. It is, for all intents and purposes, a CZ75. The magazine model even shows 18 rounds capacity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gannon46 788 Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) The FNX does everything the CR75 does, with two to three times the damage, the same recoil and firing rate, and the ability to add in better sights.It's a superior weapon to every other pistol in every way.the guns should be as is in RL the best gun should be the one your most effective with not which one has the best stats when looking at data sheets to find this one guns has .004 less recoil than that gun, shit makes me want to vomit. and the FNX is should be a rarer weapon so it should have a bell or Whistle such as optics if folks are gonna hunt for days to find it give them some reward hell just because they have the gun doesn't mean there done searching gotta find a map the optics and a battery when that ever gets fixed not to mention ammo which as of now isn't hard but might in the future. hopefully in the future we also get the ability to modify the guns even more and possibly have our own setups like extended mags more optics more attachments it could add more variables to the guns certain guns might be more effective for certain folks once they are setup certain ways with certain parts. Edited August 3, 2015 by gannon46 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted August 3, 2015 It's just a name change to avoid problems with trademarks. It is, for all intents and purposes, a CZ75. The magazine model even shows 18 rounds capacity. Yep, it should definitely be changed to 18 rounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whyherro123 2283 Posted August 3, 2015 As a nod to realism, what would be the most-likely sidearm for the Chernarus Defense Force and for the civilian Police forces? The locally-produced CR75. Therefore, that should be the most-common handgun found, with plenty of magazines and ammunition for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) As a nod to realism, what would be the most-likely sidearm for the Chernarus Defense Force and for the civilian Police forces? The locally-produced CR75. Therefore, that should be the most-common handgun found, with plenty of magazines and ammunition for it.In military buildings, yes, and in police structures to a limited extent, but guns like the Makarov, P1, and 1911 would probably still be more common simply as generic civilian weapons. Meaning that overall, something like the Makarov would be the most common handgun, while the CR75 would be the most common in military spawns. Edited August 3, 2015 by Chaingunfighter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whyherro123 2283 Posted August 3, 2015 In military buildings, yes, and in police structures to a limited extent, but guns like the Makarov, P1, and 1911 would probably still be more common simply as generic civilian weapons. Meaning that overall, something like the Makarov would be the most common handgun, while the CR75 would be the most common in military spawns. Why, necessarily? What would make those handguns more common than the CR75? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Funkmaster Rick 373 Posted August 3, 2015 All pistols bar the Longhorn are supposed to be a stepping stone to the FNX. The CR shouldn't be better performing as a pistol, it should be worse. What should be happening instead is simply that the FNX be made rarer.Might I ask what prompts you to say, specifically, that it's supposed to be a stepping stone? Is there some development announcement I didn't read? I'd hate to think you simply mistook your personal opinion for how the world is meant to be. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted August 3, 2015 Why, necessarily? What would make those handguns more common than the CR75?Well, assuming every gun is as common as the real world variant would be, the CR75 would not be common at all. The CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow is a fairly new pistol and hasn't been adopted by any military or law enforcement organization that I'm aware of, and is also very new to the civilian market (though because the gun has a threaded barrel I'm assuming it's a government model.) At the same time, variants of the Makarov, Colt 1911, and Walther P38/P1 have been around for awhile, are in service in many places, and aren't hard to come by for civilian gun owners. Also, if we're talking canon then the Makarov is an actual sidearm of the CDF (at least in ArmA 2) so at the very least it'd make the most sense being common. However, my line of reasoning is that some liberties to the balance of loot spawns need to be taken even if it's not realistic. The CR75 is an upgrade to the Makarov and P1 in pretty much every way, having almost twice the capacity of both (more than that if it gets the real 18 rounder, and even if the Mak gets 12 it's still far more) and a range of attachments that the others don't have. If we followed the "every gun should be as common as their real world counterparts" then the AKM would probably be the most common gun in the game by quite a margin, and I don't think that would be good. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syphonz 64 Posted August 4, 2015 -snip-Well, the recoil on the AKM might set some players away from it :D But, on topic, yes, the CR should have the 18 round mag. And, im assuming that the most common weapons in game would be pistol's, yes. Civilian models most likely (maybe rifles in the more outlying houses not centered in towns, or shotguns. Its very typical to have a single shot rifle or shotgun in outlying areas where there are farms, to protect their livestock from wolves and the like.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mullraugh 1151 Posted August 5, 2015 Best handgun in DayZ. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZomboWTF 527 Posted August 5, 2015 (edited) so should we also introduce 100-round G36 mags for the M4 because they exist and fit into the gun? btw, what happened to all the darrengers? (not sure if written correctly, the double barrel pistols) Edited August 5, 2015 by Zombo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites