Make explosive arrows with ammo

[JackFlax 6]

I got this kind of generic idea from a youtube video right here: 

 (idea is the key)

 

You put a casing on the head of the arrow, then fit ammo inside it. when you shoot it the round detonates on impact, causing loud noise and damage on zombies/players.

It would bring a whole new element on distraction against players and zombies. The arrow has a good range and the sound could be registered as a regular gunshot.

 

Imagine you're in a tight spot inside town, zombies coming to your position and other players nearby. With this you can more easily give the zombies a new target somewhere else without giving up your position. Or of course you could ruin someones day by shooting the arrows to their position maybe leaving them surrounded by the dead!

 

I think its a nice base for an new idea. How it would fit with the gameplay is something i cant tell but its still an interesting idea :)

[AmberHelios 2071]

like the noisemaker arrow from thief, i like it  

[BeefBacon 1185]

I like this. Would be neat if the bow functioned as a super modular multi-purpose tool that does stuff like this. Would give a use to loose ammo for which there is no weapon - so it'd be especially useful to players who are yet to find a gun but have a bow and a few rounds.

[JackFlax 6]

Im just little worried that it would become too common starter weapon, like bows in h1z1. it was kind of ridiculous.

A solution could be that the arrows could not be recovered. A little bit more annoying method would be different casing diameters requiring the right caliber. The latter one is too overkill imo.

[BCBasher 2465]

Ha, that reminds me of stupid stuff we did as kids growing up in the country. My dad was good about keeping the guns and ammo locked up but for whatever lapse of judgment we had access to the reloading presses and supplies.

 

I'm not sure how many of you have see those toy called "buzz bombs" or something like a dart that took a paper strip cap gun cap. You would throw them up at an angle and when they hit the ground they go bang setting off the cap.

 

I had the brilliant Idea one day to load some 12ga blanks, tape a wooden dowel slice with a nail up the middle as a firing pin over the primer, and some flagging tape or whatever as a stabilizing tail on the business end to get them to land pointing up when lobbed.

 

Noise was made, fun was had, and strangely enough, 3 camo clad young boys grew up keeping all 30 fingers and 6 eyes intact.    

[Deathlove 2286]

Im just little worried that it would become too common starter weapon, like bows in h1z1. it was kind of ridiculous.

A solution could be that the arrows could not be recovered. A little bit more annoying method would be different casing diameters requiring the right caliber. The latter one is too overkill imo.

Yes but you DONT have explosive arrows yet in H1Z1 so its a rather even playing field.

[OnionOfShame 138]

Love it, mostly because it would add more of a reason to actually use bows. Maybe we could have more types of utility arrows such as fire (primarily to burn structures or light planted accelerant), obsidian (the arrowhead shatters, making the wound difficult to treat), stone/heavy (knock people out or break bones), poison, tranquilizer, rocksalt (salt in wounds is painful), whistling, et cetera. It'd be cool to have another role in the squad rather than just sniper and assault rifle like it is now.

Edited May 16, 2015 by OnionOfShame

[Whyherro123 2283]

That.....wouldn't work. It doesn't even work in real life. Watch the video closely, and I will explain why it wouldn't work. Especially the first shot, when he throws that arrow; watch the arrow get fired back into the air.

 

When a bullet "gets fired" in a firearm, what happens is the gunpowder burns and gives off gas. This gas has nowhere to go except out, and so it pushes on the gun barrel, on the casing and pushes on the bullet, propelling the bullet out of the barrel, and causing the user to feel recoil.

 

Remember: "Every action has an equal and opposite reaction"

 

If the gun wasn't there and the bullet was "fired" (AKA the gunpowder was burned via primer ignition), the actual bullet wouldn't go that far. All that would happen is the casing would get fired back, just as fast as the bullet would. This is why throwing a  handful of bullets in the fire won't actually do all that much (NOTE is that dangerous? YES. DOn't throw bullets into a fire)

 

So, attach a bullet to an arrow, and fire it at something. The bullet will probably not penetrate the target, and the arrow will get fired back due to the casing getting forced away due to powder expansion.

 

NOTE: it does work, kinda, when the actual arrow penetrates the squash, giving the burning powder/gas something to push off of and propel the bullet. However, having a bulky bullet on the arrow will definitely mess with the ballistics and and weight of the arrow, making it hard to aim/predict where it will go, as well as making it less likely for the arrow to actually penetrate. Aim at something hard, or even a little less yielding that a squash or thin plastic, and it won't really work, not for the amount of effort and preparation that goes into that.

 

 

Not.....really worth the time, in my opinion. And this is from someone trained in survival and someone that makes bows and arrows.

Edited May 17, 2015 by Whyherro123

[Draco122 412]

Personally I'd be more inclined for the inclusion of Fire Arrows by wrapping a fuel soaked rag in cloth.

 

Alternatively different arrow heads that do different levels of damage, such as Glass, Scrap Metal, hardened Plastics.

 

Explosive Arrows are a bit far fetched for me honestly, as a noise maker it's fine but hardly useful for a defense. Unless you were to literally put like a 1/4 stick of dynamite to the end of an arrow and fire it (which with the added front weight would likely make it tumble and loose distance extremely quickly).