Does DayZ need aeiral transport?

[Sike (DayZ) 8]

Just been wondering since it is soon approaching on the roadmap. I have had experience with so called "aerial transport" on the mod. Personally the idea of seeing it again isn't one I like. I understand it was easy to port over some of the choppers from Arma2 and because most everyone that came over from Arma2 were proficient in how to use them it was an easy sell. That was back in the mod and this is the stand alone. I don't think it requires re-implementation. Can you imagine if the makers of Counter Strike decided to keep the ability to carry a dozen weapons from Half-Life? It wouldn't be the game it is today if they had just decided to port it over and go the easy way.

 

Anyways what does the rest of the more active community members think? Leave your argument for/against and maybe we can reach some kind of consensus on what direction we think this should go.

Edited March 12, 2015 by Sike

[☣BioHaze☣ 7337]

I would like to see extremely limited light aircraft.

 

Maybe one buildable Cessna type per map, maybe an ultralight single seater as well.

 

The parts would be super rare, the fuel would be rare, and the flying would be at sim level.

 

This would be a very late addition in the build cycle as well.

[ToySmokes 116]

I feel like I don't really care if it gets implomented or not. I know that a lot of people want it, and I can see why. So if the devs wants it in the game, then I'm all for it and I'm supporting them all in I guess. Aerial transport seems to be a kind of "end game" goal. Finding a plane and get of that goddamn island x)

[Death By Crowbar 1213]

Even the addition of the V3S (when it goes up hills) has been huge because you can fly around the map and gear up and pick friends up in a way that wasn't possible before. Aerial transport will also further change and enhance the game. I do think it may be worth while to allow server admins to have some control over certain things - I could see a private server where they wanted it legacy StandAlone with no vehicles. It's going to be interesting as additional vehicles get added...

[Deathlove 2286]

I would like to see extremely limited light aircraft.

 

Maybe one buildable Cessna type per map, maybe an ultralight single seater as well.

 

The parts would be super rare, the fuel would be rare, and the flying would be at sim level.

 

This would be a very late addition in the build cycle as well.

Eventually would like to see one of these. Dude i freaking love the paint scheme. But if i could paint even light aircraft colors like this id be a happy camper haha.

 

 

I picked Yes - I want to see all kinds of aerial vehicles 

 

I really think there should be as many aerial vehicle types as there is land types in real life HOWEVER I do think they should still be rare and i think the parts especially for something like pictured above should be rare as hell but something kind of endgamish.

Edited March 12, 2015 by Deathlove

[xalienax 621]

I want the huey back. it should be an ENORMOUS time-sink and resource hog requiring dozens if not hundreds of inventories full of stuff to get it running (some of the items should fill even the largest pack or require you to carry them 'in hands'. Helis and aircraft in-general should be a driving reward factor for people to team up to get one working

[boneboys 7988]

Why complicate things when they are simple.

 

One Little Bird MH-6 per server.

Manage to find the bits and pieces and tools required would be fine by me.

Now go fight it out for those precious parts...

 

No vote.

[LoveAffair 329]

Please no ..  I do like BioHaze idea . If aircraft are added its just going to turn into a base looting frenzy :(  Land Loot Land Loot Land Loot Land Loot , reason #1 why i left the MOD. It was rediculous. One guy in a chopper cleaning out an entire map of peoples bases and loot. Common already  :P

[blacktwin0 98]

I would like to see extremely limited light aircraft.

 

Maybe one buildable Cessna type per map, maybe an ultralight single seater as well.

 

The parts would be super rare, the fuel would be rare, and the flying would be at sim level.

 

This would be a very late addition in the build cycle as well.

 

Civilian planes and choppers or gyrocopters. Would love to pick parts from the crash in Cherno. Maybe a Huey or two. Nothing too aggressive. 

[Deathlove 2286]

I want the huey back. it should be an ENORMOUS time-sink and resource hog requiring dozens if not hundreds of inventories full of stuff to get it running (some of the items should fill even the largest pack or require you to carry them 'in hands'. Helis and aircraft in-general should be a driving reward factor for people to team up to get one working

Well i really think these kinds of vehicles should still be doable by individuals but they definitely need to take longer. Weight factor hopefully by than will play a huge part in this as you will have to decide whether or not you want to carry a tire in your pack or carry vital supplies you need to survive on.

 

Carrying large parts SHOULD be doable via craftable sleds and pushed by hand, etc. Kind of like what you could do with logs in The Forest for extremely heavy loads.

[Tatanko 5591]

I would like to see extremely limited light aircraft.

 

Maybe one buildable Cessna type per map, maybe an ultralight single seater as well.

 

The parts would be super rare, the fuel would be rare, and the flying would be at sim level.

 

This would be a very late addition in the build cycle as well.

I want the huey back. it should be an ENORMOUS time-sink and resource hog requiring dozens if not hundreds of inventories full of stuff to get it running (some of the items should fill even the largest pack or require you to carry them 'in hands'. Helis and aircraft in-general should be a driving reward factor for people to team up to get one working

One Little Bird MH-6 per server.

Manage to find the bits and pieces and tools required would be fine by me.

Now go fight it out for those precious parts...

This collectively sums it up for me. Keep it simple, or keep it out -- one or the other.

[tobias winfro 305]

I would love to see transport choppers, maybe see UH1Y later on in development. What I really want to see is the single seat mozzies. Even those should be a time and resource sink. I wants my Roflcopter back....

[WolfgangErikson 127]

Some of the most fun I had in the mod was finding parts to fix up that small little Huey and flying it around the map looking for crash sites until someone caught up to and murdered me. Then I would do it all over again.  I would also pick up random survivors and take them with me sometimes. Lots of fun. I didn't really care for the gun-ships though.

Edited March 12, 2015 by WolfgangErikson

[galekast 70]

Don't see why not.. I would prefer unarmed versions, maybe like the Bells and Little Birds from the various mods. They are fun to fly and pretty agile and have a limited carry capacity for gear and players.. They should take some serious work to get up and running and should require maintenance (though not to extremes, lets actually make it plausible!) and I would have a lot of fun if I did eventually get hold of one.. Besides, if there are 1-2 per server, those groups that have them are going to have to seriously hide them well and are going to have a target on their backs the whole time, so yes it will be great having one and helping you out, but if someone spots you landing, be prepared to be lit up majorly! 

[Sike (DayZ) 8]

Eventually would like to see one of these. Dude i freaking love the paint scheme. But if i could paint even light aircraft colors like this id be a happy camper haha.

 

 

I picked Yes - I want to see all kinds of aerial vehicles 

 

I really think there should be as many aerial vehicle types as there is land types in real life HOWEVER I do think they should still be rare and i think the parts especially for something like pictured above should be rare as hell but something kind of endgamish.

lol this really wasn't what I was thinking when I heard "aerial transports" were confirmed. I really doubt airplanes of any type will be implemented (if you had one why not just go find your own private island and sip on tropical drinks and work on your tan :P). "All kinds" really means like Mi-8s and Hinds with guns and rockets.

[Deathlove 2286]

Don't see why not.. I would prefer unarmed versions, maybe like the Bells and Little Birds from the various mods. They are fun to fly and pretty agile and have a limited carry capacity for gear and players.. They should take some serious work to get up and running and should require maintenance (though not to extremes, lets actually make it plausible!) and I would have a lot of fun if I did eventually get hold of one.. Besides, if there are 1-2 per server, those groups that have them are going to have to seriously hide them well and are going to have a target on their backs the whole time, so yes it will be great having one and helping you out, but if someone spots you landing, be prepared to be lit up majorly! 

And like with the jet i posted they could always make things like rockets none existent. Just a small gun cannon that you can fire from it but thats about it.

[Steak and Potatoes 13480]

I would enjoy to see one from each family, rotary wing and fixed wing.  I'd like to combine the efforts of both Boney and Bio in a sense where the rotary wing would be nothing more high end then a Kazan Ansat (weaponless transport) and the fixed similar to a Cessna.  With those in mind, I would also enjoy complete mechanical instability due to lack of use, this would increase danger when bording a Kazan as you would need to maintain constant repairs to keep her from falling out of the sky.  The Cessna would be the same but for obvious reasons one could glide in from engine issues and scavenge for further repairs.

[blowurselfup 54]

Yes because helicopters are badass!

 

[Sike (DayZ) 8]

Yes because helicopters are badass!

 

Hey so are rocketships but I don't see those coming. Maybe its just me be I am having a hard enough time as it is fighting off guys in slow flatbed trucks. What do we do if someone goes zooming by in one? Do we all start carrying anti-air rockets? Or is being relatively invulnerable the point?

[HarryPotter (DayZ) 172]

I think it would fit the realism aspect just fine. But no gunships please just transport choppers in very very limited numbers like maybe 1 or 2 in every 48 hour (our hours in the real world) period?

 

Obviously fuel would have to be really hard to come by and only spawn at the airfields and they would need to be beat up as hell and prone to fail.... 

[gibonez 3633]

I rather they not add it.

 

The map is small enough as it is, then theres the whole realism aspect of random survivors who are civilians somehow magically being able to not only pilot but maintain a maintenance heavy vehicle like a helicopter.

[Chaingunfighter 917]

I don't think we really need to see any gunships or fighter planes and whatnot, but I think having transport/utility helicopters with side mounted MGs and maybe a directed weapon used by a co-pilot would be acceptable, so long as they spawn elsewhere extremely rarely and need large amounts of ammunition and maintenance to be made viable. Otherwise I think we should just stick to basic helicopters and smaller planes.

 

The map is now a lot more dense and has a lot more height to it, meaning that helicopters are not going to be the only way to get a high point view. Add to that the fact that the vast majority of interiors are enter-able and you solve one of the biggest problems that the mod had; that players on the ground had no way to effectively hide from helicopters or combat them using the terrain, because it was all extremely vulnerable.

[surf_polar 110]

Whenever people mention aircraft 'needed' in DayZ I cringe. What purpose would these things be for? Especially on the small map size chernarus has. What purpose would attached miniguns serve? Sure, gunning down Infected, right?

Im the end these will alwayd be abused to roflstomp people on the ground with no real chance to fight back, not even mentioning how easy the graphic engine makes to spot camps from the air.

And then I read someone wants fighter jets even? For what purpose and why not simply play Arma? I had to facepalm when I read that.

I guess DayZ is more of a playground for some people, not the anti game/simulation.

[IgnobleBasterd 161]

I feel like I don't really care if it gets implomented or not. I know that a lot of people want it, and I can see why. So if the devs wants it in the game, then I'm all for it and I'm supporting them all in I guess. Aerial transport seems to be a kind of "end game" goal. Finding a plane and get of that goddamn island x)

It is not an island, though. :P

[blowurselfup 54]

Hey so are rocketships but I don't see those coming. Maybe its just me be I am having a hard enough time as it is fighting off guys in slow flatbed trucks. What do we do if someone goes zooming by in one? Do we all start carrying anti-air rockets? Or is being relatively invulnerable the point?

 

I'm talking about a regular helicopter that you would find at any airport. Not the gunship that would need to be destroyed with an anti-air rocket. My chopper has an anti anti-air rocket shield anyways B)

 

The helicopter would be used for quick travel only