Chernogorsk vs Novodmitrovsk

[Mor (DayZ) 57]

In Dayz MOD Chernarus, Chernogorsk has been the biggest city and the regional administrative center. In Dayz SA we got a new kid in town Novodmitrovsk, the devs enjoyed their freedom and made it quite bigger. I am just wondering is it suppose to be the new capital or just the big urban center?

[rickyriot 1009]

Cherno I think should stay the capital, if only for legacy reasons. 

[IkaikaKekai 1957]

Novigrad is the Capital of Chenarus, Cherno is just a major city.

[rickyriot 1009]

Novigrad is the Capital of Chenarus, Cherno is just a major city.

 

Except it doesn't exist, in fact I don't think it has ever existed (I could be wrong here) other than some printed Arma material.

[IkaikaKekai 1957]

It is still the capital of Chernarus.  It'd be like saying Waianae is the Capital of Hawaii because I've never been to Honolulu and have only read about it.

[rickyriot 1009]

It is still the capital of Chernarus.  It'd be like saying Waianae is the Capital of Hawaii because I've never been to Honolulu and have only read about it.

 

Well if you want to be a pedant about it then we should stop calling it the Chernarus map and start calling it South Zagoria.. ;)

 

Which in this case I believe that Chernogorsk should remain the capital of South Zagoria.

[Mor (DayZ) 57]

Novigrad is the Capital of Chenarus, Cherno is just a major city.

It is a 'regional administrative center' aka regional capital ...

[Killawife 599]

As I say to my girlfriend all the time: Bigger isn't better. 

 

Who am I kidding, I don't have a girlfriend :blush:

[5mirkeh 98]

Well if you want to be a pedant about it then we should stop calling it the Chernarus map and start calling it South Zagoria.. ;)

 

Which in this case I believe that Chernogorsk should remain the capital of South Zagoria.

Imagine THAT as a playable area!

[ob1korobi 125]

Imagine THAT as a playable area!

 

One day. I hope.

[Whyherro123 2283]

Just because a city is bigger, doesn't mean it is the capital of a region.

 

Hell, look at New York. New York City, for those not in the know, is not the capital of New York State. That title is claimed by Albany, which is a comparatively (and in actuality) pretty small city of 97,000 people. That is the same size as my home city of New Bedford, MA, which in turn is only the 7th largest city in MA. 

 

You also need to understand the difference between a "city" and the "actual land area" of the city. Example: Boston MA. The actual "City of Boston" is minuscule, but the effects it has on the surrounding community (also known as the "Metropolitan Area") is massive. It has been public culture in MA for a long long time to refer to the entire Boston Metropolitan Area as "Boston" (or "The City", or, more egotistically, "The Hub of the Universe" [Not joking]). The Boston Metropolitan Area (AKA, people commute to the city for work, live in the suburbs,etc), stretches from the middle of Maine to the north, Providence RI to the south, and Springfield MA in the west. It essentially is the capitol of "New England", but the rest of the states have their own capitols. They just wish they were as awesome as Boston. I am from the city, can't you tell?

 

So, let us talk game-wise. The actual "City of Chernogorsk" is pretty small, but look at the surrounding communities. It has 3 massive housing subdivisions surrounding it (probably lower-class housing, for industrial workers), the surrounding towns probably house middle-class workers that travel to the city for work. Most of the regional businesses probably have their regional headquarters in Cherno. Don't forget about the Harbor/Shipyard and the Rail Facilities. Chernogorsk has levels of infrastructure that Novo lacks. 

 

Now, I am not saying that Novodmitrovsk isn't important. It, in all seriousness, probably was the "county capitol" (For those not from the US, or lacking a similar system, the US is divided up in Federal [whole US], States [Duh], and Counties [smaller subdivisions of states, with their own regional governments and officials]) of a subdivision of the South Zagoria Region of Chernarus. The "Town Hall" supports this. Hell, Chernarus could've been divided up into two "counties", with Chernogorsk being both the "State" (South Zagoria Region) capitol as well as the "County" capitol for "South Oblast", while Novodmitrovsk was the "County" capitol for the "North Oblast". Works for me.

[Mor (DayZ) 57]

Just because a city is bigger, doesn't mean it is the capital of a region.

of course, but the question work well enough for a fishing expedition, who knows what hits the devs has dropped arround as to their intentions.

So, let us talk game-wise. The actual "City of Chernogorsk" is pretty small, but look at the surrounding communities. It has 3 massive housing subdivisions surrounding it (probably lower-class housing, for industrial workers), the surrounding towns probably house middle-class workers that travel to the city for work. Most of the regional businesses probably have their regional headquarters in Cherno. Don't forget about the Harbor/Shipyard and the Rail Facilities. Chernogorsk has levels of infrastructure that Novo lacks.

Four if you count prigorodki. Also I recall a few rail terminals but was/is there a Shipyard in the port?

http://dayz.gamepedia.com/Chernogorsk

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

of course, but the question work well enough for a fishing expedition, who knows what hits the devs has dropped arround as to their intentions.

Four if you count prigorodki. Also I recall a few rail terminals but was/is there a Shipyard in the port?

http://dayz.gamepedia.com/Chernogorsk

Sorry I had to LOL at the wiki description of "is inhabited by many players and Zombies"

[a_ruttle 199]

If they could just go ahead, expand the map to be all of Chernarus and have 200 player servers, that'd be great.

[Mor (DayZ) 57]

Sorry I had to LOL at the wiki description of "is inhabited by many players and Zombies"

If you think you can improve, you can contribute to the community by clicking edit... unless you are one of the hype kids who only do Youtube vids..

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

unless you are one of the hype kids who only do Youtube vids..

Rofl, is this suppose to mean anything?

[ob1korobi 125]

If you think you can improve, you can contribute to the community by clicking edit... unless you are one of the hype kids who only do Youtube vids..

It wasn't that high up but that went way over your head apparently.

[Mor (DayZ) 57]

Rofl, is this suppose to mean anything?

Only that today everyone want to put up a video\guide, with their own sexy logo. Its hard to avoid the tidal wave of spam washed up with every update and forgotten two weeks later. Also that personally, I appreciate those who choose to help out on the wiki and share their knowledge, using the written word and without the expectation of likes\subscribers. They have my beans.

Edit: fixed some grammar.

Edited November 18, 2014 by Mor

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

Only that today everyone want to put up a video\guide, with their own sexy logo. Its hard to avoid the tilde wave of spam washed up with every update and forgotten two weeks later. Also that personally, I appropriate those who those who choose to help out on the wiki and share their knowledge, using the written word and without the expectation of likes\subscribers. They have my beans.

There is nothing wrong with the wiki site.  It's just misleading with that one part I quoted.  It gave me a chuckle

[Mor (DayZ) 57]

I didn't suggest that there is... only like you made a general comment that if you find anything misleading, you can easily help out and improve it.

Edited November 18, 2014 by Mor

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

I didn't suggest that there is... only like you made a general comment that if you find anything misleading, you can easily help out and improve it.

Not my site and I rarely use it.  Jesus, you defend that like you defend your 3pp corner peeking.

[Mor (DayZ) 57]

defend, huh? I wasn't defending either... looks like you are butthurt over something and trolling for comments\arguments, so count me out kid..

[rickyriot 1009]

Its hard to avoid the tilde wave..

 

 

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[Tatanko 5591]

Only that today everyone want to put up a video\guide, with their own sexy logo. Its hard to avoid the tilde wave of spam washed up with every update and forgotten two weeks later. Also that personally, I appropriate those who those who choose to help out on the wiki and share their knowledge, using the written word and without the expectation of likes\subscribers. They have my beans.

Thank you! :)

 

There is nothing wrong with the wiki site.  It's just misleading with that one part I quoted.  It gave me a chuckle

To be fair, it's very hard to keep it current... the factors that determine where players congregate are constantly in flux, and until the game settles into some kind of "norm" again like we had a few months ago, it may not even be worth our time to make it 100% current. As long as the rest of the information contained therein is pretty accurate, that's what matters to me right now personally. There's also the fact that anyone can edit it, so despite my best efforts at keeping most pages factual, there will inevitably be people inclined to throw their 2 cents in and provide information that isn't necessarily relevant or useful.

 

 

NOW... could both of you kindly stop arguing? :)

Edited November 18, 2014 by Tatanko