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Is duping back? 0.50

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Yeah, Figured it out afterwards, Did this post after being awake for quiet awhile and did the responses even later after that.

Misread on my behalf, Sorry Weyland.

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I have been playing dayz for a LONG time. and im not just talking about dyz standalone, i have been playing the mod for an ungodly amount of time and i would LIKE to consider myself a seasoned dayz player. Because of my  experience I understand that your survival isnt completly relient on what gear you have, i have wiped out entire squads who have mosins and AKs of all types with a blaze. but there comes a time where gear can be an extreme tipping scale in an extreme situation, now heres my point. its one thing to run into a few geared up guys. ir even a small squad. but what ISNT right is going into elecktro and you run into 8......yes 8....EIGHT PEOPLE ALL WITH SMERSH VESTS AND M4s AND BOXES OF GRENADES. you guys thought the duping was gone? no fuck no. that shit came back with a vengance. the dev team needs to REALLY crck down on that shit. and i dont know how its happened but i have now run into more hackers within the last 2 days than my ENTIRE time playing Arma 2 mod.........im just beaten, tired, and dont even want to play.....i understand this is in alpha....and i embrace it and all its buggy glory for the sake of dayz, the dev team, and my attempt to support them. but it has just ruined my experience with this game.

 

dont ask me about how to dupe. do i know how to do it? of course. do i/ would i dupe? no

will i tell you how to dupe? Hell to the no

 

and please. dont say how to do it in the comments -_-

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Read the latest Dev Tracker post. Its about the duping situation.

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Sure it's a problem. Your cries are not falling on deaf ears either. Eugen has a post today I believe regarding duping. I just don't think that it is really that big of a deal considering how Alpha this game is. There are other issues within the game that are less polished that need to be dealt with before duping is tackled. Duping has been dealt with before and then other ways were figured out. People get upset and then they get dealt with again. If you play any kind of game you should already know this. People find exploits, devs shut them down, people find exploits, devs shut them down. Just give it some time.

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Sorry its not just duping,remember the days of spawning items in....

Try looking for it because its back...

Honestly, it never left. :P

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Honestly, it never left. :P

It seems that way..

 

 

Sure it's a problem. Your cries are not falling on deaf ears either. Eugen has a post today I believe regarding duping. I just don't think that it is really that big of a deal considering how Alpha this game is. There are other issues within the game that are less polished that need to be dealt with before duping is tackled. Duping has been dealt with before and then other ways were figured out. People get upset and then they get dealt with again. If you play any kind of game you should already know this. People find exploits, devs shut them down, people find exploits, devs shut them down. Just give it some time.

Linky please...Found it on Reddit..

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Ran across a duper's lair this morning... There were three AKMs, fully decked out, piles of magazines for AKMs and AK-74s, drum magazines, PSO sights, piles of extra ammo, a couple AK-74s, Hunting Backpacks,protector cases full of magazines and even more ammunition...it was insane. 

 

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All of this was in the little barn North of Kamishovo. 

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Good time to practice the PvP.  That is how I see it.  I want my opponents to be as well armed as possible, this is a pretty good way to get that to happen.  

 

It isn't game-time yet, like you said, still alpha.  Enjoy this opportunity.  Get out there and test your survival abilities.  Shit just got a lot harder!  Excellent, right?

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Anyone remember the hacked-in weapons boxes in the mod with like 99x of everything? You could walk from Cherno to Elektro on discarded AS-50s without ever touching the grass. What duping we have going on right now is a shadow of the nightmare we used to have.

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Hello sir,

 

Hopefully the duping is patched with 0.51. Throughout the week of gameplay in 0.50 duping was very common, this game is in alpha and the developers have released it to get the community to help find glitches and report them so they don't have to pay testers to do it :). If you don't agree with duping yourself you should not pick up the duped gear and use it in pvp, and then threaten other people and give them a lecture for duping themselves :), I myself think that is very hypocritical.

 

And one more thing, I find it very entertaining seeing your other freind killerbyte start a thread about duping and saying how it ruins the gameplay etc etc, and yet killerbyte and I were duping one night, no joke. Remember this, most dupers have already played Dayz the "proper" way for over 200 hours, it gets god dam boring running around finding gear for 5-10 hours then going to pvp and dieing within 2 hours or so, and when patch 0.50 was released there was an oppitunity for players to gain more pvp experience quickly that will help them survive from bandits in the next patch. So I hope the butthurt passes sir and have a wonderful DayZ.

 

Regards

 

A guy that isn't butthurt about a game in alpha :).

 

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Sorry but just off of the first post, how did you know exactly what inventory they had?

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randomly murdererd with 2 players on the server - instantly kill hack. 

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The duping situation was never fixed. Now they also have a pseudo "item creation" hack that uses the loot cycling in some way. I don't know how it works but I was handcuffed by a (quite pleasant) group of 3 Russians that had Press Vests, M4s, all attachments, etc. They said they found the press vests in Pavlovo military base using this technique.

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Duping and hacking will never be gone from any game. There are a lot of very smart people with alot of time on their hands to figure out new ways (think of a prisoner and the weapons they come up with, essentially out of nothing due to the amount of time they have on thier hands).  It can only be minimalized through proper management.  I feel dayz accomplishes this because I encountered many more in the mod then I have ever here.

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Duping and hacking will never be gone from any game. There are a lot of very smart people with alot of time on their hands to figure out new ways (think of a prisoner and the weapons they come up with, essentially out of nothing due to the amount of time they have on thier hands).  It can only be minimalized through proper management.  I feel dayz accomplishes this because I encountered many more in the mod then I have ever here.

Sorry to burst your bubble sunshine but it could nearly be eliminated from the game..

Do your research please the methods of catching cheats is that far out of date its a joke tbh..

 

Put it this way i shot you with a mosin your full health and its a body shot i kill you am i hacking?

The whole game is based on numbers data so why not use this as a anti cheat......

Its been done,so i cant work out why its not used here.

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Here have a video of a duping in progress that I managed to catch, the first time he killed me there were a lot more double mags on the ground, he sat up there shooting newspawns for a good hour or two, one would think you'd get bored of that but these people may be of simple mind.

http://youtu.be/YGRbG6w-cfo

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Sorry to burst your bubble sunshine but it could nearly be eliminated from the game..

Do your research please the methods of catching cheats is that far out of date its a joke tbh..

 

Put it this way i shot you with a mosin your full health and its a body shot i kill you am i hacking?

The whole game is based on numbers data so why not use this as a anti cheat......

Its been done,so i cant work out why its not used here.

I will keep this simple name one major gaming title for which no hacks or cheats can be found.

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I will keep this simple name one major gaming title for which no hacks or cheats can be found.

 

World of Warcraft. 

 

Or do you mean first person shooters?

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I will keep this simple name one major gaming title for which no hacks or cheats can be found.

He said "it could nearly be eliminated from the game" not "The game could be perfect and have no hacks or cheats or exploitable bugs in any way".

 

Take a game like Planetside 2, lots of players, online, I've only ever seen one hacker/cheater in like 500 hours of playing it. I'm 200 hours into DayZ SA and I have found 4 hackers and about 7 people I could confirm were duping. It cannot be removed entirely but it can be trimmed waaaaay the hell down and thats what is happening right now, they are working on it and eventually hacking and cheating will be rare in this game like it is in most other reputable online games.

 

Duping isn't hard or something that requires a massive amount of work and planning, it is simple and easy right now and a lot of people are doing it. My video should be proof enough of how easy it is that one guy can sit on top of a tower and just duplicate his inventory for two hours to never run out of ammo for his M4. I do have faith that they are trying to fix it though because they understand it is game breaking and will murder their reputation if it is allowed to continue.

 

Over the last week I have seen five people in newspawn areas with M4s and bunches of double mags, this isn't just something that happens fairly, these are people who are not worried about losing their super rare gun because they have a bunch of them hidden in tents all around because they can duplicate them at will.

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He said "it could nearly be eliminated from the game" not "The game could be perfect and have no hacks or cheats or exploitable bugs in any way".

 

Take a game like Planetside 2, lots of players, online, I've only ever seen one hacker/cheater in like 500 hours of playing it. I'm 200 hours into DayZ SA and I have found 4 hackers and about 7 people I could confirm were duping. It cannot be removed entirely but it can be trimmed waaaaay the hell down and thats what is happening right now, they are working on it and eventually hacking and cheating will be rare in this game like it is in most other reputable online games.

 

Duping isn't hard or something that requires a massive amount of work and planning, it is simple and easy right now and a lot of people are doing it. My video should be proof enough of how easy it is that one guy can sit on top of a tower and just duplicate his inventory for two hours to never run out of ammo for his M4. I do have faith that they are trying to fix it though because they understand it is game breaking and will murder their reputation if it is allowed to continue.

 

Over the last week I have seen five people in newspawn areas with M4s and bunches of double mags, this isn't just something that happens fairly, these are people who are not worried about losing their super rare gun because they have a bunch of them hidden in tents all around because they can duplicate them at will.

google planetside hacks you will see many topics just because you have encountered only one does not mean they are so far a few between.  In the SA With-in 500 hours of game play I have only encountered 2 hackers. I haven't killed anyone I thought was duping and I am a pvper at NWAF.  To me it is not nearly as bad as some of the complaints that come in.  Still I do recognize they do exist and on a larger scale then I have seen but people act as if nothing is being done about it.  They obviously are tending to this problem just because it is not happening as fast as someone would like does not me it is not happening. 

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