Jex 1104 Posted September 4, 2014 Found a guy at the NW airfield and I should have killed him, there was a dead body near him and I heard gunshots earlier then he said "Friendly." After maybe a minute of talking he asked if I had any AKM ammo, I gave him three of my seven magazines which he then proceeded to kill me with whilst laughing into his microphone (In a mocking manner.) I'll use this as a learning experience. As soon as you enter any area deemed "military" the gloves come off and it's every man or woman for themselves, ESPECIALLY the NW airfield which takes all that time to get to. People don't want to leave empty handed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CJFlint 357 Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Found a guy at the NW airfield and I should have killed him, there was a dead body near him and I heard gunshots earlier then he said "Friendly." After maybe a minute of talking he asked if I had any AKM ammo, I gave him three of my seven magazines which he then proceeded to kill me with whilst laughing into his microphone (In a mocking manner.) I'll use this as a learning experience.Let me make something really clear for you....In dayz it is hard to trust anymone you meet randomly. Let alone Airfeilds and Military Bases they are KOS areas period. When I go into military areas if I see someone I shot or flee. I treat everyone in those areas as hostile, unless I'm in TS with them or some how know them. I certainly am not giving them ammo. My 1st month playing I learned 80% to 90% of players I ment randomly did not have my best intentions in mind what so ever. They are either noobs that will get you killed just out of pure stupidity or it some sort of set up. Theres KOSers, or people that are paraniod that will shot at the 1st impression there is a threat. Theres also tons of trolls that play that like dicking with people..everyone wants to be a morgan freeman or frankie. Then you got your so called "hero" players...they will try in help other player, which much of the time results in them being shot. I tip my hat to them. Maybe when the game has better mechanics and some sort stats system..people will appreciate that play style more and add insentive to play that style. So I just have a I don't trust a mofo policy and found that my avatar lives much longer. I also learned that if you really want freinds to play with or meet people join a clan or reach out to a group of people that play to together on Team Speak. Its much easier that way. Edited September 4, 2014 by CJFlint 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harteman 155 Posted September 4, 2014 If I see you at an airfield and we aren't already friends, I am going to try to kill you, bottom line. Unless, like, you are SUPER entertaining, in which case I will have to bring you along. Good luck demonstrating your entertainment value with bullets flying at you though, but then again, I said SUPER. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAM-bo4250 213 Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) If you click "Video" in the config setting, the blurry vision goes away - there is a bug associated with it which means that you can get hit from a zombie and your vision goes blurry and starys that was until you click the video option in settingsBeav, I may be mistaken so take it with a grain of salt. I believe going into and clicking video settings is the bug. The blurriness is telling you that your health status is bad. It will only start to clear when you get your health and/or blood up. You have to be energized and hydrated to get the "healing" green bar. Your vision will start to clear as you get closer to healthy and the healthy bar shows up. I used to think is was a bug too and did exactly that until I read on the forums or watched a video explaining it. If you want to use it so be it. Was it maybe Wobo's videos explaining the whole health, eating and drinking mechanics? Edit: even one hit could drive your health real low. After all they can one shot you and kill you or ruin your gear. All I know is everytime i got the healing bar my vision cleared on it's own. Edited September 4, 2014 by RAM-bo4250 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lazengogh 5 Posted September 4, 2014 Sometimes i too feel i am too friendly player, but my goal is not to have as many kills as possible but to have fun and most fun comes from meeting new players. Ofc i have learned to avoid groups with automatic weapons etc, but the only kills i really enjoy are the ones where i was shot at first but i defended myself successfully. If i accidentally shoot unarmed friendly player i feel really bad and do everything to help him if possible... If you dont communicate, just shoot, you will miss much funny moments. Imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Jimmy 1631 Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Just don't fall to the dark side. If someone is an asshole to you you don't need to be asshole for everyone.I tried to help a noob some days ago. I bandaged him, made a splint for him because zombie broke his leg, gave him some food and talked to him. Then he tried to kill me with his melee weapon after that when I was typing. Hit me like five times but too bad that he didn't know how to hit the head so I poke with my fishing rod through his head after I was done typing the message :D I really wasn't expecting more from a guy that weared a payday mask... Edited September 5, 2014 by St. Jimmy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverProductions 441 Posted September 5, 2014 Beav, I may be mistaken so take it with a grain of salt. I believe going into and clicking video settings is the bug. The blurriness is telling you that your health status is bad. It will only start to clear when you get your health and/or blood up. You have to be energized and hydrated to get the "healing" green bar. Your vision will start to clear as you get closer to healthy and the healthy bar shows up. I used to think is was a bug too and did exactly that until I read on the forums or watched a video explaining it. If you want to use it so be it. Was it maybe Wobo's videos explaining the whole health, eating and drinking mechanics? Edit: even one hit could drive your health real low. After all they can one shot you and kill you or ruin your gear. All I know is everytime i got the healing bar my vision cleared on it's own.Im sure you are correct about that is the intended reason your screen should go blurry and resolve itself once you are healthy again. The issue I encountered was that you can sometimes be completely hydrated, energised and healthy and the blurry vision never goes away. I had to help my friend get rid of the bug as for a full 2 nights worth of playing he had a blurry screen when at full health/blood. A quick click of the "video" setting gets rid of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirov (DayZ) 585 Posted September 5, 2014 OP, don't give up so easily, it's true you probably shouldn't just give ammo to someone just met, double so at military spawn points, but the lesson is not to KOS right away, but rather apply more caution and common sense. Within ten minutes of a natural conversation you should determine the chances of somebody being trustworthy or not. When in doubt, don't help (with arms) and just tell them you got let down a lot. Guys, your stories about some friendlies at the NWAF encourage me not to shoot first next time. I play as a super friendly player and will give you my last rag, but I've been taught that the airstrips operate on a strict 'KOS-or-get-KOSed' policy, so I had no qualms about shooting somebody there even on friendly servers. Will try to watch and talk in the future, and the V. Putins of Chernarus may laugh to their heart's content. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirov (DayZ) 585 Posted September 5, 2014 People that I run into on experimental see to be a bit friendlier than in stable. That being said, people are still assholish but I've met far more friendlies on exp than stable. My rule is never trust people at military spawns or people who have guns, even a sporter. I don't outright shoot people at military spawns but I will observe them and when they start being sketchy I start shooting See, this is a problem for me with people who are inherently non-aggressive but still so cautious they need little reason to KOS. If you 'start shooting', this means you 'have guns', which means you meet your own criteria of being untrustworthy and, by logical extension, you should closely watch yourself or even auto-KOS right away. People often say they KOS only high-gear/armed players, but as a friendly player, I do want to have good guns against bandits and I do want that military loot, if only for the more slots it provides. This doesn't make me any less friendly. So the bandits win in the way that most blood in Chernarus is probably shed by people who would be otherwise nice or at least neutral toward each other, but quickly start shooting just to stay on the safe side. I've never joined experimental servers for fear of losing my character. Are there any special requirements to join? Do you play a normal game down there or is it basically just bug fishing? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChainReactor 922 Posted September 5, 2014 I've never joined experimental servers for fear of losing my character. Are there any special requirements to join? Do you play a normal game down there or is it basically just bug fishing? No special criterias. Check the experimental branch subforum to check out how to play experimental. It's actually the same game, only that Exp gets the updates first and they are more buggy than the stable branch. Sometimes, those contain gamebreakers, sometimes not. You can always switch between both branches and keep your specific character. ( exp and stable have different character slots, just like 1pp and 3pp ). And yes, more friendlies on Exp. Might be because most play Exp to check out the new stuff rather than killing other players. About the bugfishing, it should be a part of experimental, though noone is forced to do so. I for myself registered a bugtracker account the moment i switched to Experimental for the first time. I just felt that it has to be this way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Hawke 114 Posted September 5, 2014 I'm definitely still too nice... Today I was on the way to the NWAF with my buddy and we got a bit lost. We found a little town, walking in, suddenly a quite well geared player stepped out on the street. Vest, camo clothes, AK whatever, what have you...My friend and me raised our guns, we had an M4 and AK ourselves. I started just talking to the guy, asked him if he's friendly, he said yes, and put his gun away. Well what else would he do, he wasn't exactly in a position to start a firefight and get away with it.I didn't want to shoot the guy, I had no particular reason to, even though he seemed to have some gear I could use. I asked him if he knew the name of the town we were in. His English was bad, as he said himself, and he said he didn't know what the name of the town was. (Later I'd find out it was Lopatino) I said bye, he said bye, he went on running down the road. Not being that naive, my friend and me didn't let him out of our view all the way down the road. We saw him go left, into the forest, then right, back over the street, following the tree line, all the way back up to Lopatino - Where he originally came from. He was clearly trying to get the drop on us while we were looting the town. As we weren't interested in a firefight, we went the opposite way. I should've shot the guy when I had the chance... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirov (DayZ) 585 Posted September 5, 2014 Or it could be me and we would trade and maybe tag along to raid Balota and maybe exchange steamids later. Listen, I'm not going to pretend KOSing doesn't extend your life expectancy, because it does. But the choice is clear to me - play an FPS and (try to) kill'em all or choose an intense, survival-oriented storytelling and yeah, sometimes take the risk of running into an a-hole... Good for you for not being naive, though, that's how you should handle such encounters in my book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blacklabel79 949 Posted September 5, 2014 I never give anyone ammo while they are in a position to shot me. That is not to say I haven't give it out but I always make sure to drop it someplace away from the player, giving myself time to clear the area. I just don't trust anyone I have only known a few minutes (especially in an open world PvP game). god i should have saved the videos that where posted in the gallery. A single guy does holdups and his execution is admirable. *if anyone remembers plz link :D * Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackyCTV 54 Posted September 5, 2014 since release I have only ever come across 5 nice people haha, I prefer my lone wolf self though but I always try to help others Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tobias winfro 305 Posted September 5, 2014 See, this is a problem for me with people who are inherently non-aggressive but still so cautious they need little reason to KOS. If you 'start shooting', this means you 'have guns', which means you meet your own criteria of being untrustworthy and, by logical extension, you should closely watch yourself or even auto-KOS right away. People often say they KOS only high-gear/armed players, but as a friendly player, I do want to have good guns against bandits and I do want that military loot, if only for the more slots it provides. This doesn't make me any less friendly. So the bandits win in the way that most blood in Chernarus is probably shed by people who would be otherwise nice or at least neutral toward each other, but quickly start shooting just to stay on the safe side. I've never joined experimental servers for fear of losing my character. Are there any special requirements to join? Do you play a normal game down there or is it basically just bug fishing?See you assume I am looking for a reason to "start shooting", truth be told I would rather not shoot you. I've been killed far too many times by friendlies at any military spawn to take any other approach to these areas. I usually play as a medic, yes I may have a gun, mainly a pistol can if I'm lucky I might get ahold of a sporter. That's why I'm at the military bases looking for magazines for my sporter or a better gun but I try to avoid them if I can, I try find someone to trade with for what I needNow if I'm in a barracks or jail building and you are a server hopper, yes I am gonna kill you on principle because the moment you see me you are gonna try to do the same. It sucks that others force me to take this approach to this game but it is how most people I've encountered play the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Neville 59 Posted September 5, 2014 Hey OptimumVision, continue being a nice guy. A postapocalyptic world needs good people. That's the spirit of multiplaying. If we stop being friendly DayZ will become Call Of Duty. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OptimumVision 60 Posted September 5, 2014 Hey OptimumVision, continue being a nice guy. A postapocalyptic world needs good people. That's the spirit of multiplaying. If we stop being friendly DayZ will become Call Of Duty.Indeed, I've just teamed up with a stoner freshspawn to vanquish the local bandits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schweinsteiger 107 Posted September 5, 2014 All this "trust" and "distrust" (based on military gear or whatever other reason to kill or not kill on sight) based on clothing, weapons, whatever, is ridiculous. You're just as likely to get killed by a guy in a T-shirt with an axe as you are with a guy geared up in camo with a rifle. Sometimes people talk then shoot. Sometimes they don't. It is completely random. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirov (DayZ) 585 Posted September 6, 2014 See you assume I am looking for a reason to "start shooting", truth be told I would rather not shoot you. I've been killed far too many times by friendlies at any military spawn to take any other approach to these areas. I usually play as a medic, yes I may have a gun, mainly a pistol can if I'm lucky I might get ahold of a sporter. That's why I'm at the military bases looking for magazines for my sporter or a better gun but I try to avoid them if I can, I try find someone to trade with for what I needNow if I'm in a barracks or jail building and you are a server hopper, yes I am gonna kill you on principle because the moment you see me you are gonna try to do the same. It sucks that others force me to take this approach to this game but it is how most people I've encountered play the game Sorry, I didn’t mean it in a personal way, it’s just your post reminded me of KOS-related threads here which made me shake my head. Many normal players, Survivors if you will, tend to KOS always or almost always based on often ridiculous criteria. Among the reasons I see I can get KOSed by a ‘non-Bandit’, there is as follows: - I am armed (as in ‘I want a weapon for my protection’)- I have high gear (as in ‘I want to have stuff’)- I have low gear (as in ‘I died and just respawned’)- I have no mic (as in ‘my ears ache from headphones and I switched to speakers’)- I yell ‘friendly’ (as in ‘I’m new to the game and saw people doing that on youtube’)- I’m slow with my responses (as in ‘I’m new to the game and still figuring out the controls’)- I don’t want to put my weapon away (as in ‘I’m afraid you’ll handcuff and kneecap me’) In short, in order not to KOS you, KOS players expect you to behave in a way which gets you in a very deep shit if they are Bandits. That’s why KOS-ing for the above or similarly stupid reasons is plain Banditry in my book, even if you don’t cuff you victims and sex them up with a Zucchini. Which is fine, people have different approaches to the game, just admit it that if KOS mentality is a problem in Chernarus, you’re a part of it. Again, this is about you directly, salutes for being a medic. I think I’d like to become one, once more stuff is implemented. As it is right now, only bandages/rags and Morphine are of any use, only once I had a need of a Saline Bag or Epi-pen. Usually if you need them, there is another bullet flying straight towads your head. So I guess I’m waiting for diseases, infections, etc. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tobias winfro 305 Posted September 6, 2014 Sorry, I didn’t mean it in a personal way, it’s just your post reminded me of KOS-related threads here which made me shake my head. Many normal players, Survivors if you will, tend to KOS always or almost always based on often ridiculous criteria. Among the reasons I see I can get KOSed by a ‘non-Bandit’, there is as follows: - I am armed (as in ‘I want a weapon for my protection’)- I have high gear (as in ‘I want to have stuff’)- I have low gear (as in ‘I died and just respawned’)- I have no mic (as in ‘my ears ache from headphones and I switched to speakers’)- I yell ‘friendly’ (as in ‘I’m new to the game and saw people doing that on youtube’)- I’m slow with my responses (as in ‘I’m new to the game and still figuring out the controls’)- I don’t want to put my weapon away (as in ‘I’m afraid you’ll handcuff and kneecap me’) In short, in order not to KOS you, KOS players expect you to behave in a way which gets you in a very deep shit if they are Bandits. That’s why KOS-ing for the above or similarly stupid reasons is plain Banditry in my book, even if you don’t cuff you victims and sex them up with a Zucchini. Which is fine, people have different approaches to the game, just admit it that if KOS mentality is a problem in Chernarus, you’re a part of it. Again, this is about you directly, salutes for being a medic. I think I’d like to become one, once more stuff is implemented. As it is right now, only bandages/rags and Morphine are of any use, only once I had a need of a Saline Bag or Epi-pen. Usually if you need them, there is another bullet flying straight towads your head. So I guess I’m waiting for diseases, infections, etc.No worries mate, I've got thick skin. I tend to shy away from all the killing that happens in chernarus, most of the time I try to find civilian weapons(shotguns, pistols, bows and .22's) rather than brave the airfields or military spawns on a near full or full server.As far as the medic thing goes, I tend to carry bandages/rags, moriphine, sticks(for splints if no morphine is available), charcoal tabs and tetracycline as well as food and drink. I look at myself as more of a traveling yard sale because every now and then I find someone who is willing to trade or needs some rope for a backpack/courier bag or needs help locating an ashwood stick for a fishing pole. Until we get a more in depth medical system and diseases this is about the only things I can provide others Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirov (DayZ) 585 Posted September 8, 2014 I'd like to do something similar every now and then, can you tell me which routes you tend to take? Right now I believe the safest places to meet and help are spawn points like Dolina, Polana, Dubrovka or Msta. In Krasno I already run into trouble, same in Svetlo, not to mention Berezino or Novo. Do you really find a use for charcoal? With rotten fruit gone, the only way to get a food poisoning right now is eating worms, raw/burnt meat or blue berries. So if you aren't force fed, it's hard to poison yourself unless you're completely new to the game. Tetracycline as in antibiotics? Can't say I ever had any medical condition apart from bleeding, unconscious and dead. Aren't the antibiotics for treating infections, i.e. useless as of .48? I sure hope I run into you the next time I'm looking for the parts for a backpack or fishing pole. Ropes, matches, pristine kitchen knives, maps - that's the kind of stuff I enjoy way more than M4 accessories. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
over9000nukez 199 Posted September 8, 2014 Found a guy at the NW airfield and I should have killed him, there was a dead body near him and I heard gunshots earlier then he said "Friendly." After maybe a minute of talking he asked if I had any AKM ammo, I gave him three of my seven magazines which he then proceeded to kill me with whilst laughing into his microphone (In a mocking manner.) I'll use this as a learning experience.well... dont give ammo to a guy you met 1 minute ago... before you even trust a person you should be with them for more then half an hour. and the only time i should really break the rules above is if its for a really slow fire weapon, or if i can easily out-shoot him without a problem, example: guy with mosin, no attachments, talked to him for 10 or so minutes, asks for ammo, ill give him like 2 rounds to use, i wont give him like 40, just 2, enough to kill a person who isn't expecting it (you should be expecting it) become the leader of the situation, not the used person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Zod 1118 Posted September 8, 2014 There are only two types of people in dayz I would give ammo to :My clan matesThose who I know in real life and can bitch slap them if they do stupid shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cpanther 221 Posted September 8, 2014 Noob.... everyone knows that "friendly" means....." Kill me or die". :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites