Mosin-Nagant "Obrez" Modification? [Torchia Tweet]

[Katana67 2907]

 

Far from a confirmation, but interesting nonetheless!

 

Seems like the "Russian" equivalent of a lupara. Could be neat!

 

A little unsure as to why it'd be needed, as we've got a heavy-hitting rifle-round-firing pistol type thing in the Longhorn already. But hey, seems cool to me.

 

 

 

Edited August 5, 2014 by Katana67

[crazykage 1063]

pretty.......

[gibonez 3633]

Yes more Eastern weapons .

 

[TomatoSupra 207]

 

Far from a confirmation, but interesting nonetheless!

 

Seems like the "Russian" equivalent of a lupara. Could be neat!

 

A little unsure as to why it'd be needed, as we've got a heavy-hitting rifle-round-firing pistol type thing in the Longhorn already. But hey, seems cool to me.

Can you imagine shooting this thing?

 

Talk about some kick... hahaha

[Katana67 2907]

Yes more Eastern weapons .

 

/giggle

 

You're seriously cool with this?

 

It's a cut down, heavily re-tooled, crafted, and machined version of a standard Mosin-Nagant with no in-game precedent for said process. How is this cool with you, but a freakin' LRS scope on a Mosin (which is probably easier to have happen in real-life) is just a travesty?

[James Hawke 114]

lol that looks like an eastern version of the "Mare's Leg" sawed-off winchester :D

Edited August 5, 2014 by James Hawke

[OrLoK 16186]

Hello there

 

If it is this, then although a bit odd, it is iconic after a fashion.

 

I dont have an issue with it. I hope its a bugger for recoil/target re acquirement.

 

Interesting, I may have to let Lightfoot out of his box and see if he knows anything.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

[Deathlove 2286]

I saw this allot earlier in the morning and thought it was a really cool idea for a sawed of Mosin.

[gibonez 3633]

/giggle

 

You're seriously cool with this?

 

It's a cut down, heavily re-tooled, crafted, and machined version of a standard Mosin-Nagant with no in-game precedent for said process. How is this cool with you, but a freakin' LRS scope on a Mosin (which is probably easier to have happen in real-life) is just a travesty?

 

This is not a heavily tooled thing.

 

Basically take any hacksaw and just chop away. Meanwhile mounting a LRS would require some relatively complex machining. I am nervous about even installing my own iron sights on my handguns and give them over to my local gunsmith to install big dots on them I wouldn't even dare try to drill and tap a mosin.

 

Making an obrez is basically taking a hacksaw and just cutting a portion of it 0 skill required.

 

Also didn't the obrez have a big history in Soviet russia ?

Edited August 5, 2014 by gibonez

[Katana67 2907]

Making an obrez is basically taking a hacksaw and just cutting a portion of it 0 skill required.

 

Also didn't the obrez have a big history in Soviet russia ?

 

Look at the examples, they have fluted barrels... machined muzzles... carved wood stocks... iron sights missing... bent/shortened bolt handles... iron sights moved to accommodate the shorter barrel... outright fabricated stocks/grips...

Edited August 5, 2014 by Katana67

[Dchil 829]

Look at the examples, they have fluted barrels... machined muzzles... carved wood stocks... iron sights missing... bent/shortened bolt handles... iron sights moved to accommodate the shorter barrel... outright fabricated stocks/grips...

I don't see any fluted barrels.

You can get a pretty decent crown on a barrel with files and a screw (plus valve cutting compound).

Carving is just hand tools. You can do it with a pocket knife or an axe.

Iron sights are often held on by screws.

I don't know why someone would shorten a bolt handle on a mosin, but many have, or have been modified to have, bent bolt handles over the 100 odd years they have been around.

Iron sight relocation can be done with files and such.

Hand tools and time for the fabricated grips.

 

 

We done here?

[Katana67 2907]

I don't see any fluted barrels.

You can get a pretty decent crown on a barrel with files and a screw (plus valve cutting compound).

Carving is just hand tools. You can do it with a pocket knife or an axe.

Iron sights are often held on by screws.

I don't know why someone would shorten a bolt handle on a mosin, but many have, or have been modified to have, bent bolt handles over the 100 odd years they have been around.

Iron sight relocation can be done with files and such.

Hand tools and time for the fabricated grips.

 

 

We done here?

 

Sounds like a whole lot of effort and crafting.

 

I mean, I'm fine with it. Gibonez just applies his hypocrisy wherever he can, though.

 

Excuse me, perhaps vented is the better term.

 

EDIT - Although, I suppose that could be the mounting point for the iron sights... which were removed... and the barrel is heavily machined (see the taper markings).

 

Edited August 5, 2014 by Katana67

[Insane Ruffles 74]

WTF HAVE THEY DONE TO POOR RIFLE??!? I mean, I understand some modifications but WTF, Sergei Ivanovich Mosin will be rolling in his grave for sure!

[LegitOldSchool 261]

I don't even see the point of this weapon, even less so since we have the longhorn.

[trev186 389]

Ill use it If I can mount an LRS still ;)

Lol oh the joy

[frozenjaws 69]

My question, (and it may be a dumb one) Is it a completely other weapon? Or is it craftable from the mosin? I dont know why you would ever craft it ingame, other than some diversity, but thats obviously not a bad thing.

[slippery gypsy 107]

immersion believability all that other crap you lot sprout any sawnoff weapon is a real deal and fact ... hmmmm i could sling this giant long arm over my shoulder or i could cut this bad boy down and keep it in the front pocket of my hooded jumper ...taking into account the only reason i am carrying a weapon is because i need a equalizing mankiller ...same argument with cuttin down the .22 not everyone is a farmer with a need for a rifle yet feel the need for personal protection home security what ever your reason ... sawn offs have been around since flintlocks ...portability sometimes outstrips purpose 

[Katana67 2907]

My question, (and it may be a dumb one) Is it a completely other weapon? Or is it craftable from the mosin? I dont know why you would ever craft it ingame, other than some diversity, but thats obviously not a bad thing.

 

That's what I'm interested in finding out too, in addition to whether Torchia was just musing... or he actually intends on having this be a possibility.

[Mullraugh 1151]

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Edited August 5, 2014 by mullraugh

[rybec 339]

I want them to make sure it has a gigantic fireball capable of setting forests ablaze when you fire it.

[hells high 676]

It's a cut down, heavily re-tooled, crafted, and machined version of a standard Mosin-Nagant

 

Not necessarily. There's not one particular type of cut down Mosin. Looking them up you can find anything from heavily retooled versions ala an AK-pistol, but some of them could easily be done with nothing more than a good hacksaw.

[Evil Minion 943]

I don't even see the point of this weapon, even less so since we have the longhorn.

You got a concealable and more mobile full power gun with a five shot magazine. Might have its uses. I doubt this more or less improvised weapon will be nearly as accurate as the Longhorn. It might also be louder and more difficult to handle - hwoever damage might be comparable and it shoots faster. Probably more on a mid-range sidearm with effective ranges between Magnum and Longhorn.

[Katana67 2907]

Not necessarily. There's not one particular type of cut down Mosin. Looking them up you can find anything from heavily retooled versions ala an AK-pistol, but some of them could easily be done with nothing more than a good hacksaw.

 

I agree!

 

But there's also Mosin-Nagants with nothing more than a replaced front sight for a scope mount, or a metal band cinched to the receiver to attach a scope mount, or a clamped scope mount.

 

Point being, as far as DayZ is concerned... item 1 + <insert vague mechanical "combination" process here> + item 2 = item 3.

Edited August 5, 2014 by Katana67

[Katana67 2907]

You got a concealable and more mobile full power gun with a five shot magazine. Might have its uses. I doubt this more or less improvised weapon will be nearly as accurate as the Longhorn. It might also be louder and more difficult to handle - hwoever damage might be comparable and it shoots faster. Probably more on a mid-range sidearm with effective ranges between Magnum and Longhorn.

 

This isn't strictly relevant to the thread or any of the weapons at hand, but this is sort of why I think that rifles will always be patently better than their smaller CQC counterparts.

 

Chernarus' engagements are pretty well geared toward long-range engagements, even in cities.

 

Aside from keeping something like a shotgun as a primary for the sole purpose of clearing buildings like barracks/jails, I don't see a distinct niche that they can fill and still be commonplace. And most other long-range weapons can do the job just as well.

[Evil Minion 943]

True - as long as that glue-a-rifle-to-my-back-magic persists there is probably not much reason to downgrade the Mosin. Mabe if you got another rifle and don't want to move around with two clumsy longarms. The shorter barrel and lower weight might make it more flexible though - so if you don't find any other "close combat" weapons you might cut down a second Mosin for close quarter use.