Experimental Branch: 0.48 Discussion

[bauertschi 254]

Whatever is causing DayZ .47 to crash for me, is still in this experimental .48.   :(

 

I can't play for more than 15 minutes or so at a time before it crashes to desktop.

 

Hoping hotfix for .47 has the answer inside.... *sigh*

 

i had same problem when i updated gfx drivers, so i reverted back and now its ok.

 

btw i have nvidia card.

 

and so does BioHaze - not quoting that one, too. Maybe that's it.

 

It would generally be usefull to post central hardware components when providing info about performance and crashes. I guess motherboard, CPU and graphics card is probably enough. Please add that and maybe patterns can be found easier. Well and I'm interested in how DayZ performs on certain hardware...

[Guest]

...when the item limit is hit and/or if the devs manually despawn all items on a server

regarding to the recent server stuck, i bet when the itemlimit is hit server and restart they goin to stuckmodi until devs clear items.

[Nails 150]

Logged back in for a bit onto a nearly full pop server. I wanted to see how long people were sticking around on the server and am seeing that server hopping is pretty bad right now. I hid in a bush watching the player list and on a probably 30/40 server within 10 minutes I was the 3rd player from the top of the list.

[trev186 389]

Logged back in for a bit onto a nearly full pop server. I wanted to see how long people were sticking around on the server and am seeing that server hopping is pretty bad right now. I hid in a bush watching the player list and on a probably 30/40 server within 10 minutes I was the 3rd player from the top of the list.

Was it during the transition from day to night ? The servers really empty out then.

Server hopping for gear makes 0 sense right now cause there is like none...

[Nails 150]

Was it during the transition from day to night ? The servers really empty out then.

Server hopping for gear makes 0 sense right now cause there is like none...

 

I know right? Not sure why people do it. Why anyone would want to wait through all those timers for the slim chance of something better on another server beats me?

 

Most of it was just before it started turning dark, which I don't understand because every fight I've gotten into so far this EXP has been at night. With nighttime being so playable and so little daytime on the servers not sure why people jump around trying to stay on day servers either.

[Super_Duty 466]

I really thought I wanted to login and play tonight, though apparently I'm too tired.  It has exhausted me just considering the virtually energy required to run even one Kilometer.  

[trev186 389]

So today I tried removing all the junk loot from Vybor base on a low pop server.

 

Since Vybor base is one of the places this exploit works best at due to it being isolated on it's own grid away from any large civilian area....I moved the loot all to the next town over and beyond.

 

After about an hour of this nothing would respawn. I even waited another hour with a completely empty vybor base nothing respawned.

 

That server will restart soon.

 

I hav a theory:

 

i believe they have disabled loot from respawning until a server rest happens (or perhaps 2 hours straight which coincidentally would be time to when this server restarts from when i finished moving all the items)

 

Once the server has respawned or a certain amount of time has passed the loot will then respawn ONLY if there is not too many items in the grid.

 

So in about 30-40 mins if I get on that server which had like 30 pairs of jeans and shoes and other crap I think there will be a fresh loot respawn at Vybor base.

 

If that does not work I almost think that they disabled loot respawns altogether this morning. 

[frosti 2165]

So today I tried removing all the junk loot from Vybor base on a low pop server.

 

Since Vybor base is one of the places this exploit works best at due to it being isolated on it's own grid away from any large civilian area....I moved the loot all to the next town over and beyond.

 

After about an hour of this nothing would respawn. I even waited another hour with a completely empty vybor base nothing respawned.

 

That server will restart soon.

 

I hav a theory:

 

i believe they have disabled loot from respawning until a server rest happens (or perhaps 2 hours straight which coincidentally would be time to when this server restarts from when i finished moving all the items)

 

Once the server has respawned or a certain amount of time has passed the loot will then respawn ONLY if there is not too many items in the grid.

 

So in about 30-40 mins if I get on that server which had like 30 pairs of jeans and shoes and other crap I think there will be a fresh loot respawn at Vybor base.

 

If that does not work I almost think that they disabled loot respawns altogether this morning. 

 

Maybe there was some item that glitched into some textures and you were not able to remove it and it blocked respawn cycle.

[trev186 389]

Maybe there was some item that glitched into some textures and you were not able to remove it and it blocked respawn cycle.

well it would have to be more then 1 so unlikely I removed EVERY item in the area that i could find even around the parameter in the grass

 

Naturally now that the server restarted it wont load I have been on wait for like 15 mins

 

Ill check two things when/if i get in

 

1. Did loot respawn

 

2. is my displaced loot pile still in the other city 

Edited August 5, 2014 by trev186

[KingofTheWorld 44]

Yes

Supposedly there is a server limit at which point all items aside from tents begin to despawn

This latest change on .48 despawned all junk items including the tent I had...so items are persistent but I believe tents are not treated differently then any other item and will despawn when the item limit is hit and/or if the devs manually despawn all items on a server

What  do you mean junk you mean ruined ?  For example I have tent I deploy tent on somewhere how long it will stay there ? İf my items does not going to stay after I die or even if I dont die if my items disappearing in certain time whats point to make items persistnce? what is purpose can someone tell me ?

Edited August 5, 2014 by KingofTheWorld

[trev186 389]

So i finally got back into that server....

 

My loot pile was still over in the other city but nothing respawned in Vybor base....

 

So not sure if respawns are in at all in the current build.

 

The distance between the pile of loot and the base was 835 Meters according to daydb map...should be WAY outside the vybor base grid but nothing is respawning in Vybor base for me.

 

the whole thing is completely empty as well and has restarted since then. It has been at least 3 hours since the base was cleared.

 

My bad luck continued as when I dropped my backpack down later on in the road it vanished into thin air....it was there and then just disappeared :( oh well at least it happened on exp not on my stable characters.

 

Finally I got sorta reckless and bored and started shooting a lot of zombies with field of view on max (from looking for backpack)

 

I attracted some guy and we had a shootout I killed him but he managed to ruin my high cap vest. I twas pretty fun to just unload my 75 round drum mag into him. 

 

time to take a break from experimental until the next character wipe. This time Ill focus on a HC character since there seems to be less people playing HC on exp right now and I could actually experiment more.

[KingofTheWorld 44]

Excellent Work Devs !! Amazing Check Out My Screenshots!

 

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/40849271792002535/1DF996169DD8FA8D74EE0AA288CEF4370A7DDDA5/

 

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/40849271792005400/7438385B1AB21D38C3FD3A2D2C58CD9A47D47AAF/

 

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/40849271792000860/F2876E0E4F35416618E72AB777F984686743A589/

[Pan_Andrzej 109]

Excellent Work Devs !! Amazing Check Out My Screenshots!

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/40849271792002535/1DF996169DD8FA8D74EE0AA288CEF4370A7DDDA5/

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/40849271792005400/7438385B1AB21D38C3FD3A2D2C58CD9A47D47AAF/

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/40849271792000860/F2876E0E4F35416618E72AB777F984686743A589/

It's experimental m8, dont have to be sarcastic

[Cherryx 5]

Question about persistence: If someone places a tent on one server, will it appear on all other servers of the same hive as well?

This would mean that someone could simply change servers to steal your loot without a chance for the owner to defend it? Same for other items? Drop a weapon and someone on another server grabs it?

Did anyone test this, yet?

[fowang 60]

Question about persistence: If someone places a tent on one server, will it appear on all other servers of the same hive as well?

This would mean that someone could simply change servers to steal your loot without a chance for the owner to defend it? Same for other items? Drop a weapon and someone on another server grabs it?

Did anyone test this, yet?

No

 

Only the server it was placed!  There would be THOUSANDS of tents everywhere :P

[Super_Duty 466]

Still trying to sort out the mechanics of this myself.  I went way North to the edge of the map and found a dear stand that typically has only one loot item.  Took said item which was a rotten potato.  A fire extinguisher spawned  I took that and nothing respawned.  Went to bed, logged back in the next morning, guessing the server had reset twice and still nothing had spawned.  Tried another dear stand, took the water bottle, rope spawns, then nothing after it.  Almost seems to be a limit on how many times a particular site respawns items.  I then ran to the North East edge of the map, checked out the small town just North of Karmanovka and found only junk loot (clothing and shoes) and one can of beans after a fresh restart.

 

So today I tried removing all the junk loot from Vybor base on a low pop server.

 

Since Vybor base is one of the places this exploit works best at due to it being isolated on it's own grid away from any large civilian area....I moved the loot all to the next town over and beyond.

 

After about an hour of this nothing would respawn. I even waited another hour with a completely empty vybor base nothing respawned.

 

That server will restart soon.

 

I hav a theory:

 

i believe they have disabled loot from respawning until a server rest happens (or perhaps 2 hours straight which coincidentally would be time to when this server restarts from when i finished moving all the items)

 

Once the server has respawned or a certain amount of time has passed the loot will then respawn ONLY if there is not too many items in the grid.

 

So in about 30-40 mins if I get on that server which had like 30 pairs of jeans and shoes and other crap I think there will be a fresh loot respawn at Vybor base.

 

If that does not work I almost think that they disabled loot respawns altogether this morning. 

[Super_Duty 466]

Just read this in the DevTracker...Eugene spills a little, enjoy!

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/dayz/comments/2cia7b/i_figured_out_how_the_new_loot_spawning_system/

 

Also, this!

[Twitter] [Hicks_206] Just a heads up, we're aiming for an exp update tomorrow - but will keep everyone updated! Edited August 5, 2014 by Super_Duty

[fowang 60]

I wonder where all the morons and their stand on how software dev have gone?

[basinox 300]

I wonder where all the morons and their stand on how software dev have gone?

They are all up in thier tents

[bauertschi 254]

So i finally got back into that server....

 

My loot pile was still over in the other city but nothing respawned in Vybor base....

 

So not sure if respawns are in at all in the current build.

 

The distance between the pile of loot and the base was 835 Meters according to daydb map...should be WAY outside the vybor base grid but nothing is respawning in Vybor base for me.

 

the whole thing is completely empty as well and has restarted since then. It has been at least 3 hours since the base was cleared.

 

My bad luck continued as when I dropped my backpack down later on in the road it vanished into thin air....it was there and then just disappeared :( oh well at least it happened on exp not on my stable characters.

 

Finally I got sorta reckless and bored and started shooting a lot of zombies with field of view on max (from looking for backpack)

 

I attracted some guy and we had a shootout I killed him but he managed to ruin my high cap vest. I twas pretty fun to just unload my 75 round drum mag into him. 

 

time to take a break from experimental until the next character wipe. This time Ill focus on a HC character since there seems to be less people playing HC on exp right now and I could actually experiment more.

 

 

Still trying to sort out the mechanics of this myself.  I went way North to the edge of the map and found a dear stand that typically has only one loot item.  Took said item which was a rotten potato.  A fire extinguisher spawned  I took that and nothing respawned.  Went to bed, logged back in the next morning, guessing the server had reset twice and still nothing had spawned.  Tried another dear stand, took the water bottle, rope spawns, then nothing after it.  Almost seems to be a limit on how many times a particular site respawns items.  I then ran to the North East edge of the map, checked out the small town just North of Karmanovka and found only junk loot (clothing and shoes) and one can of beans after a fresh restart.

 

Played on three servers yesterday. On the first and third one there was simply nothing usable. Searched Brezino on those, shoes, a few hats, nothing to make rags in 30 minutes+, no (not rotten) food. I didn't pick up a single item on those servers. I did not even die of starvation but bled out on those, once I had two rags, once the first zed ruined my shirt so I had none. Bleeding was a death sentence.

Now the second server had just restarted (I think) and there was loot there like on a normal fresh server. Maybe there is a point when things stop respawning (deer stand example) and usable loot thins out. Or the servers were up forever or...maybe the second server was reset after hanging itself. Or the first and third were just hanging and needed to be freshly started, don't know. Somehow I don't think having such stark contrasts on servers concerning loot was intended, so I guess I should lean back and wait.

Edited August 5, 2014 by bautschi

[Mr Jizz 313]

My experience with 0.48

Jeans and rotten fruit everywhere. I 'looted' a freshly restarted Svetlo, and found nothing. No guns, no clothes, no edible food, NOTHING. Can't emphasize more my frustration in this area.

Zombies are hitting from the floor below. So standing on the second floor with a zombie swinging it's arms on the floor below you take hits. MAJOR LAG too. I'd register hits a solid 30-40 seconds after making contact with a zombie. Also seems like mixed success with navmesh.. Some abide by it, others walk through walls. Also got mega-punched by a zed. Not bleeding, not hurt, the zombie slapped me and I was instantly dead.

Did I mention no loot? Yeah, current experimental is too bugged to play.

[Exorade 214]

I wonder where all the morons and their stand on how software dev have gone?

 

What's "their stand on how software dev"?

Edited August 5, 2014 by Exorade

[chodeofwar 145]

Question about persistence: If someone places a tent on one server, will it appear on all other servers of the same hive as well?

This would mean that someone could simply change servers to steal your loot without a chance for the owner to defend it? Same for other items? Drop a weapon and someone on another server grabs it?

Did anyone test this, yet?

 

No, tents just like vehicles and any type of persistent items will be specific to one server.

[Exorade 214]

My experience with 0.48

Did I mention no loot? Yeah, current experimental is too bugged to play.

 

Now, now, did you try a different server?

 

 

 

 

 

 

edit: Nearly double posted, this forum layout sucks.

Edited August 5, 2014 by Exorade

[Mr Jizz 313]

Now, now, did you try a different server?

 

Tried multiple servers. US East, US Central, US Southeast... Zombies hitting me while they're below me is gamebreaking for me.  In the absence of loot Its impossible to put up a fight. Melee is totally f*cked.