To the "friendly" guy who killed me and took my MP5

[Mancomb 131]

I like how everyone acts as if this behavior is somehow something unique to DayZ players. Welcome to the human race. You learned an important lesson about what happens when you encounter other humans unconstrained by laws or societal prohibitions on certain behavior.

 

In other words, if people thought they could get away with the shit they do in video games in real life, many of them would try.

[Evaris 61]

I like how everyone acts as if this behavior is somehow something unique to DayZ players. Welcome to the human race. You learned an important lesson about what happens when you encounter other humans unconstrained by laws or societal prohibitions on certain behavior.

Not really, DayZ doesn't simulate the lack of social interaction, a need for pretty much every human save for sociopaths.  In which case, sociopaths would likely be the ones killing on sight as loners, whereas most other humans would band into groups, based on regional area, likemindedness, or by taking in new members through various methods into a non-xenophobic group. 

 

The videogame medium also takes away the 'realism' factor and the long-term consequences, so there isn't a feeling of the other person is another human being trying to stay alive - at least not to the same degree. 

 

Anyhow.

Edited July 23, 2014 by Evaris

[Red_Ensign 990]

I have pre-packaged 'gift to friendly guy' packages ready (can opener, morphine, mags, etc, usually in one of those yellow protective cases).  when I come across someone who makes no threatening move at first, I toss him the package and I'm gone around a corner before he's done picking it up.  friendly gesture with minimal risk.

 

"who was that masked man?" :-)

[Vekaras 7]

Well, at least you made contact with the guy.

 

Not smart you didn't order him to put his weapon down (I would never have trusted him with a drawn weapon).

 

IMO, playing as a "hero" is the real challenge as it involves taking control of the situation without firing a bullet (if you have to kill the dude, you failed).

 

It can be frustrating sometimes, so, always pay attention to your surroundings, and choose your way as you'd choose your battlefield : always have the upper hand even if you don't think about killing people.

[lucianpin 80]

Usually I don't talk to strangers with weapons in their hands. Or if I do, I do it from distance and staying near some possible coverage.

In most of the cases they don't need help, they already heave everything.

 

For strangers with no guns or not holding guns in their hands I am more relaxed but still careful.

[scriptfactory 620]

Whenever i see a post about someone who got shot and they take it personally and become bitter (and yes i see a lot) it just tilts the game further towards being a bandit dominated game only.

This "friendly" metagame will never keep the game from being bandit dominated. Eventually people like the OP will move to a mod that supports friendly/team play or just quit playing.

[cpchua 8]

Well, its a game and shit does happen... most of the time. I learned it the hard way, see post : http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/154460-so-kos-official-sa-kos-discussion-topic/?view=findpost&p=2051036

[archamedes 238]

This picture sums it all up & that face is perfect.

 

 

This picture however, has no relevence, but i added it because its funny.

"Wtf are you doing to that guy?"

Edited July 23, 2014 by archamedes

[King Raptor 191]

I don't get the whole 'neutral' medic. Are you like Switzerland?

 

Why would you even need a gun if you're not going to use it, any way? Being neutral sort of demands that you don't go around being armed becaues it makes you ... Not neutral.

Especially carrying around highly dangerous automatic firearms. Since you can't slapp on any red crosses, the first thing people will see is your firearm. And then you go all "OH BUT I AM REALLY VERY CUDDLY!" and they still don't see any red crosses, just a big ol' loot pile that first needs a bullet in it to stop wiggling.

 

Or is it more like a chaotic neutral thing?

 

Seriously though, you should play whichever way you feel, we're just egging on you 'cause we be all bitter and shit.

 

 

[hombrecz 832]

Honestly, I wouldn't have minded to have been KoS'd.

 

I wouldn't have minded if he had left me for dead.

 

What annoys me are two things:  lying about being friendly, then laughing and shooting in my head after I was already no longer a threat and therefore killing me simply for the sake of killing me. 

 

I understand your feelings, everybody who was/is trying to be friendly knows this.

Also agree, that for me the worst part isn't being KOS'ed, that I see as clear declaration of hostility, but rather lying and pretending, only to pop one in my head from behind or something.

 

But maybe that is only because I personally do not do such things. I dislike lying and tricking people to kill them afterwards even if it's only in the game ofc.

 

On the other hand people are often dicks, so it should not be that surprising.

It's just another proof that trying to be friendly is 10x harder then just KOS'ing or tricking people.

 

Also next time try to convince the person you've met, to put his weapon on back.

After getting tricked few times, you will most likely learn 99% of their usual tricks and how to spot certain signs betraying their true intentions.

 

Anyway stay strong and play your own way! 

[way455 40]

Yeah I would rather be KOSed than spidered like that. Don't stop doing what you are doing, douches like that get their's. Couple of pointers, if you approach someone and their weapon is out keep strafing until they put it away. Also if they don't put away their weapon (unless they are carrying two) and your weapon is away... that guy is most likely going to pull some crap. Also be careful if they want to talk in the middle of the street or if they seem to be stalling, you probably have have his friend's crosshairs on you.

I also laugh when I see a fully geared player acting like they don't know the controls or pause a lot when talking to you (because they are TeamSpeaking or Skyping with a friend while talking to you). That's not a player that can be trusted.

[Evaris 61]

I don't get the whole 'neutral' medic. Are you like Switzerland?

 

Why would you even need a gun if you're not going to use it, any way? Being neutral sort of demands that you don't go around being armed becaues it makes you ... Not neutral.

Especially carrying around highly dangerous automatic firearms. Since you can't slapp on any red crosses, the first thing people will see is your firearm. And then you go all "OH BUT I AM REALLY VERY CUDDLY!" and they still don't see any red crosses, just a big ol' loot pile that first needs a bullet in it to stop wiggling.

 

Or is it more like a chaotic neutral thing?

 

Seriously though, you should play whichever way you feel, we're just egging on you 'cause we be all bitter and shit.

 

 

 

 

Alignment-wise I'm chaotic good.  I help out absolutely everyone I can. (neutral medic means I don't take sides in conflicts, nor do I consider myself a "hero")  I don't care if you're the scum of the earth or an angel, if I run into you, i'll offer to give you help, whether it be simple supplies or running an IV for you or the like.

 

As for why have a weapon?  I'm not a pacifist, I return fire if fired upon, however I do not take the first shot, unless I'm playing with friends and need to cover them for one reason or another. (in which case it's covering / suppressing fire.)

Edited July 23, 2014 by Evaris

[q.S Sachiel 470]

This is why, if I encounter someone who claims to be friendly, I tell them to put their weapon away, and that, if they take it out at all in my presence, I'll shoot them on the spot. If they truly are friendly, they (usually) comply; if not, they (usually) try to kill me. When they ask me why I don't put my gun away, I tell them it's because I don't trust them, and if I were going to kill them, they'd be dead already. Of course, when playing as a neutral medic, the whole idea is to be objective and help everyone, even those who don't really deserve it (such as the asshat the OP mentioned), and there will always be those who take advantage of that kindness to torally fuck you in the ass.

 

Haha, you exert authority over others and expect them to expose themselves to a point of weakness for your own piece of mind?  I'd just hold my gun down and shoot you the first chance if you're all 'i don't trust you put away your gun' bs on me.  That said I'd need to think twice if you came up from behind.

But you probably get a few people to do this, and the true friendlies are probably more than willing to do your bidding.  Good job though if you can pull it off.

 

As to the OP, i know you said this wasn't the first time, but as you seem so upset and confused at a person lying to you for their personal gain... please enjoy my offering:

special attention to 0:44 please.  And of course onwards. :)

Edited July 23, 2014 by q.S Sachiel

[Evaris 61]

As to the OP, i know you said this wasn't the first time, but as you seem so upset and confused at a person lying to you for their personal gain... please enjoy my offering:

special attention to 0:44 please.  And of course onwards. :)

 

Not confused - I just find lying to be annoying at best, abhorrent at worst.  I have innate tendency to trust a person's word until they prove they cannot be trusted.  It's the type of person I am - I believe in the positive potential of humanity.  Call me an idealist, but if it's not acted upon, even in but small ways, then yeah humanity is fucked to be trapped in their negative outlooks. 

Edited July 23, 2014 by Evaris

[q.S Sachiel 470]

I'd argue you're negative by calling it negative.  I pride myself on being a realist.  Man's got to take steps to defend himself, and I'm hoping that you don't just go the French and throw your legs in the air at the first sign of trouble...
Neutral doesn't mean doormat.  There's at least 39 players out there baying for your blood.

 

I'm not going to tell you how to play, but i'd certainly suggest sizing up your damsels in distress, as they may very well turn out to be wolves, as someone quipped above.

You could even adhere to your neutral (guessing no fire unless fired upon) posture, while still being assertive as Mancomb, by requesting or threatening the player to disarm before they receive treatment.

 

Threatening someone gets their guard up of course, and I've been flagged down by two failtards on the road between Elektro and Cherno several times, who tell me to stop or they'll shoot and they just want to talk/trade/give me things.  or "come over here i've got a present for you" ala every bad movie villain since ever.  So of course you want to be assertive but not also ruin their trust.

 

Though if you've identified a person (particularly loner) who's in dire straits, giving them a little heads up first that you're inclined to brain them but would like to help also, may save you from their panicking during death throes.

 

Ultimately though, you seem to have picked a rather hard roleplay character, as you're either going to need to look for injured people, or force your services upon people / betray your position to people with offers just to stay out of boredom.

 

I hate liars with a passion too, and i hold loyalty highest in my attractive traits for a person, but I'm not particularly gullible or blinkered (or at least so says my ego).  That said, this is a roleplay sandbox game and one where people are either out there to troll you, grief you, or do whatever it takes to see them survive, even at the cost of your pulse...

 

Good luck friend, and i hope to meet your kind when roaming for targets, or when legitimately in need of assistance :) 

[Lady Kyrah 1110]

Nice going murderer.  You are, in my opinion, the lowest of the low for players.  Hope you enjoy my MP5K.  I would have given it to you anyhow, had you asked.  You probably wouldn't have ruined my extra magazines you would have gotten otherwise if you did just ask.   

It was never yours to begin with, the only things you own are those you can protect.

 

"Trust and you'll be trusted" Say the liar to the fool.

Edited July 23, 2014 by Lady Kyrah

[zeroy 240]

And right before you did you said to me "You can't trust strangers."

 

All is well then Evaris, lesson learn, right? :D - Welcome to Dayz!

[offset 3]

Might as well call it BanditZ for now.  There's no incentive to being friendly and sociable with strangers and there's no disincentive to not either.  Until zombies and general survival begin to pose a real combined threat it will remain, spawn - loot - bandit - die.

 

This is a just a game anyway so people will shoot their guns without consequence most of the time.  Food and weapons don't respawn and you can't server hop in real life.

[way455 40]

Might as well call it BanditZ for now.  There's no incentive to being friendly and sociable with strangers and there's no disincentive to not either.  Until zombies and general survival begin to pose a real combined threat it will remain, spawn - loot - bandit - die.

 

This is a just a game anyway so people will shoot their guns without consequence most of the time.  Food and weapons don't respawn and you can't server hop in real life.

Why does there need to incentive to be nice? How about "not being a douche?" Is that good enough incentive? *rolls eyes*

Damned kids today.... Smh

[King Raptor 191]

Might as well call it BanditZ for now.  There's no incentive to being friendly and sociable with strangers and there's no disincentive to not either.  Until zombies and general survival begin to pose a real combined threat it will remain, spawn - loot - bandit - die.

 

This is a just a game anyway so people will shoot their guns without consequence most of the time.  Food and weapons don't respawn and you can't server hop in real life.

 

The incentive is not getting shot in the face, feeling good about yourself ... You know ... Being a human being.

Funny how people assume that if there are no mechanics in place for "doing good" they can't do good because there is nothing to measure "goodness" by.

What do they teach you people in schools, any way?

[archamedes 238]

The incentive is not getting shot in the face, feeling good about yourself ... You know ... Being a human being.

Funny how people assume that if there are no mechanics in place for "doing good" they can't do good because there is nothing to measure "goodness" by.

What do they teach you people in schools, any way?

there is no measure of good in real life for helping an old lady up if she falls over, but she says thank you and goes on with her day. you feel good about yourself and continue with yours. Says a lot about society when the concept of life is to only do good if you are given some sort of reward

Edited July 23, 2014 by archamedes

[scriptfactory 620]

there is no measure of good in real life for helping an old lady up if she falls over, but she says thank you and goes on with her day. you feel good about yourself and continue with yours. Says a lot about society when the concept of life is to only do good if you are given some sort of reward

An act of kindness can definitely be its own reward. In real life you don't have to worry about that little old lady harming you. Even if she did you could report her to the police.

[ZomboWTF 527]

if you hear someone being panicked OR too calm, or tries to close distance to you while you are not looking, just shoot them

 

i have been backstabbed so many times, playing friendly for a long time made me almost psychic to the point where 5 of 6 "freshspawns" i decided to shoot had a gun hidden in their trousers...

 

you can read a lot of peoples intentions just by looking at movement, tone of voice, etc.

 

 

An act of kindness can definitely be its own reward. In real life you don't have to worry about that little old lady harming you. Even if she did you could report her to the police.

only if you survive O.o

Edited July 23, 2014 by Zombo

[Death By Crowbar 1213]

There are people you can trust... but you shouldn't really trust anyone.

 

This was a jerk move... but I suppose it's the type of thing that happens in DayZ that makes you be ever vigilant and on guard. You are never safe. I like the story about a husband and wife playing at the airfields and the husband finds and LRS after which the wife shoots him to get and the husband is facepalming as she's laughing her ass off in the other room.

[theirongiant 200]