Experimental Branch: 0.47 Discussion

[barnabus 1708]

Can confirm that NWAF and Vybor military base suck for AKM. Searched them several times over the course of a few days and found none. Got sick of it and ran down to Pavlovo military and found one in the barracks the first time. I think they are making us run for our goodies now. Funny thing is that by the time I found it I already had 3 30 round mags, handgrip, bipod, folding stock, and pso scope. I'll probably get shot before I get to use it.

I wonder, actually, how much this has to do with the wood floor tents not spawning anything atm?

Edited July 17, 2014 by Barnabus

[Nails 150]

I wonder, actually, how much this has to do with the wood floor tents not spawning anything atm?

 

Pretty sure it's a glitch, but I do love a good DayZ conspiracy theory. Tin foil hats next patch confirmed  :lol:

[barnabus 1708]

Pretty sure it's a glitch, but I do love a good DayZ conspiracy theory. Tin foil hats next patch confirmed  :lol:

It is kinda funny how much punani sand there is over nothing that can't be fixed in a game that is in development.  Just report the bugs.

Edited July 17, 2014 by Barnabus

[Live2Xplore 5]

i tink it is that way now , this way punch will be less op , you will have to take your time to punch , so it will be less easier to knock somone with a gun now

 

also running and pushing isnt realistic, is it?    people would fell to the floor by lossing their balance

 

I don't personally think punches are op at all. They are Bambi's only defense. If you take down the guy with the m4, then you deserve it. its impossible with the new jog speed. And i dont understand what you mean by running and pushing? I didnt say anything about pushing

[LaGeG 2]

Unlucky, but NWAF hasn't been good for AKM anyway.  I find mine around Balota.

Searched NWAF 6 more times, nothing.

Searched Balota and on the first search found an AKM......... WHAT THE FUCK??

Also running into a new issue where if I attack with melee weapons sometimes I get this weird bug where suddenly I can't attack at all until I relog...

Not to mention crazy desync zambies but I think that might be my internet today?

Okay so now I just need to find a crashed heli and a Drum Mag and then I've found all the unicorns. (fuck finding m4)

Edited July 17, 2014 by LaGeG

[barnabus 1708]

Searched NWAF 6 more times, nothing.

Searched Balota and on the first search found an AKM......... WHAT THE FUCK??

Also running into a new issue where if I attack with melee weapons sometimes I get this weird bug where suddenly I can't attack at all until I relog...

Not to mention crazy desync zambies but I think that might be my internet today?

Okay so now I just need to find a crashed heli and a Drum Mag and then I've found all the unicorns. (fuck finding m4)

Neener neener, told ya so!

[SFRGaming 718]

As spawns are completely random and all barracks have the same loot I.D. #, I'd say the best place to find an AKM is the Secret Military Compound north of Kamenka. 4 barracks to search there. 

[Karakoz 141]

Thanks for the manual reloading tip but did you just really give the advice to dupe my mags??????

That is just lame I'm sorry to say because apparently you do this and in my opinion it should warrant a ban...

 

I don't cheat, ever. (will admit to sometimes using the gamma exploit).

Yes I do that. But there is no cheat. It's a glitch, like putting your head in the walls to see people behind. In two days I died because of the game, the first time I got a "you are dead" after a server restart (I was in a building), and the second time I got stuck between rocks and the server propelled me in the air. So why should I take all the shit and refuse the best? Should I spend hours searching for magazines just to die like that? No.

 

If you have only one drum, you will probably lose it sooner or later. Why should you accept that if the game also gives you the solution to your problem?

Edited July 17, 2014 by Karakoz

[boneboys 7988]

Yes I do that. But there is no cheat. It's a glitch, like putting your head in the walls to see people behind. In two days I died because of the game, the first time I got a "you are dead" after a server restart (I was in a building), and the second time I got stuck between rocks and the server propelled me in the air. So why should I take all the shit and refuse the best? Should I spend hours searching for magazines just to die like that? No.

Experimental is not for you, the Stable Branch is WIP as you are aware.

I advise that you wait at least until beta release to check what progress has been made.

 

Just my advice.

[Karakoz 141]

No, this happened on stable, and I have more than 800 hours of gameplay. So please don't tell me what's for me and what is not. I play with all the bugs and broken features, including those killing me, including those allowing me to duplicate my magazines.

Edited July 17, 2014 by Karakoz

[nl 986]

Yes I do that. But there is no cheat. It's a glitch, like putting your head in the walls to see people behind. In two days I died because of the game, the first time I got a "you are dead" after a server restart (I was in a building), and the second time I got stuck between rocks and the server propelled me in the air. So why should I take all the shit and refuse the best? Should I spend hours searching for magazines just to die like that? No.

 

If you have only one drum, you will probably lose it sooner or later. Why should you accept that if the game also gives you the solution to your problem?

Intrinsically there is so much wrong with your reasoning that I won't even start to explain.

 

[Karakoz 141]

Explain what? Explain that if everyone refused to use the glitches the game would be better?  :lol:

[rickyriot 1009]

Karakoz you do strike me as someone who rage quits and cheats at any opportunity. Perhaps I am being unkind, but maybe Experimental isn't really for you.

[nl 986]

Explain what? Explain that if everyone refused to use the glitches the game would be better?  :lol:

Yes.

A major part of this game is the scarcity of some gear, if you don't want to scavenge for several hours this game is not for you.

With the way you play you could simply camp in one spot and always have enough food, drink and ammo where these items should be finite, forcing you out in the open with its inherent risks. That is what the game is partly about. I understand that it can be frustrating to die in an undeserved way but on the other hand you should adjust your style and actions to work around the glitches. Like on experimental right now you have long game freezes and if you are not careful you can die from a zombie attack while you are not able to defend yourself, solution is partly to avoid dense zombie populations like cities and once you spot a zombie you go around or kill it as soon as possible in a silent way.

 

Using a glitch is simply cheating and I'm sure that if some of these glitches remain in the final version you would still use them.

[Karakoz 141]

Of course I would still use them, because that's not cheating. Cheating is breaking the rules, but in DayZ the rules are made by the game developers. Glitching isn't cheating. Everyone can do that, there is no secret. If you don't want to use those glitches, fine, this is your right. But don't complain if people do. Moreover, I do scavenge for several hours, just to find all my pristine TTSKO stuff and the spare clothes, and the AKM with all the accessories, this already takes a LOT of time. So duplicating the magazines is a very small compensation compared to the time lost when your character got killed for no reason.

[Karakoz 141]

Karakoz you do strike me as someone who rage quits and cheats at any opportunity. Perhaps I am being unkind, but maybe Experimental isn't really for you.

As I said already those deaths happened on stable, not on experimental. My last death on experimental was perfectly normal, I killed someone and I got killed after that. Anyway, I wasn't complaining about stable or experimental, I just said that I have very good reasons to use those glitches without feeling guilty.

Edited July 17, 2014 by Karakoz

[rickyriot 1009]

"compensation"

:lol:

[goldtoaster 30]

And so you decided that the others are simply bad at this game.

Yes that's exactly what I was saying

 

 

Exactly

[Agilov 133]

As I said already those deathes happened on stable, not on experimental. My last death on experimental was perfectly normal, I killed someone and I got killed after that. Anyway, I wasn't complaining about stable or experimental, I just said that I have very good reasons to use those glitches without feeling guilty.

If you do something that is not intended to be possible to do by the  developers to give you an unfair advantage over honest players -> this is cheating. Even if everyone has the option to do it. Can't count the deads by bullets on night servers when I was obviously the only one using my flashlight. Wall leaning? Cheat. Duping? Cheating too. Died? Bad luck - try again. You know, its a survival game... Thats about surviving. Not about lamecore.

[nl 986]

Of course I would still use them, because that's not cheating. Cheating is breaking the rules, but in DayZ the rules are made by the game developers. Glitching isn't cheating. Everyone can do that, there is no secret. If you don't want to use those glitches, fine, this is your right. But don't complain if people do. Moreover, I do scavenge for several hours, just to find all my pristine TTSKO stuff and the spare clothes, and the AKM with all the accessories, this already takes a LOT of time. So duplicating the magazines is a very small compensation compared to the time lost when your character got killed for no reason.

You sir are all that is wrong in online gaming these days.

Let me just leave you with the thought that a glitch is something the developers did not want in the game but missed or couldn't fix. So it's not a feature but a programming mistake. Using the glitch to your advantage is simply cheating. That other players can use it too is not an argument, some may not know and some will want to play the game as intended and you would have an advantage over them. Within your reasoning it would be okay to use a fly hack simply because the developers did not prevent that code from being executed within the game. Speaking about "rights", everybody has the right to a player community that has the intention to play the game as it was meant to be played, without hidden advantages.

 

I'm done with this conversation because I will probably not change your mind since you don't see anything wrong in your reasoning.

[Karakoz 141]

If you do something that is not intended to be possible to do by the  developers to give you an unfair advantage over honest players -> this is cheating. Even if everyone has the option to do it. Can't count the deads by bullets on night servers when I was obviously the only one using my flashlight. Wall leaning? Cheat. Duping? Cheating too. Died? Bad luck - try again. You know, its a survival game... Thats about surviving. Not about lamecore.

But you can play the game as you want. Some players play RP, that's their right. They won't use military stuff for example, and they will die sooner. But that's not cheating, as no rule is broken. Glitching isn't cheating, you don't break any rule, except if there is special rules on your server, but private servers are not allowed yet. The possibility to see gamma at night isn't a glitch nor a cheat, it's a feature of the game, just like M4 used to be a feature of the game. They will fix it eventually, but until then players are allowed to increase gamma and should do so if they want to survive.

Edited July 17, 2014 by Karakoz

[hleVqq 139]

Yes that's exactly what I was saying

 

 

Exactly

Which is why I said that you have no idea what you're talking about.

[SFRGaming 718]

OK, why did an "Experimental Discussion" thread turn into a "Cheat / Glitch Confession" thread?

[Agilov 133]

OK, why did an "Experimental Discussion" thread turn into a "Cheat / Glitch Confession" thread?

Sooner or later every thread does...  ;)  Did I mention KOS sucks? 

But karakoz is right. As long as the game allows us to do things that are unfair against honest players, well have to live with it. Alpha stuff... But until all those glitches are taken away from the glitchers, we still can rant about those @¥$¥ cheaters and feel much better than them when dying. In the final product I think honest players will have an advantage over former glitchers because they really learned how to play the game.  B)

[chadthom32 4]

So this week I started getting a 5-10sec screen freeze every 10-15 mins, then the game runs again and repeats the problem.

 

This only happens on Experimental servers using 3rd person.

 

Hardcore Experimental seems to run ok as does the un-experimental servers.

 

Graphics are set low and clouds are disabled.

 

Anyone else having this, and any thoughts on how to fix it?

 

Scanned the forums for a fix, but my problem is only in 3rd person Experimental servers.

 

Also, in 3rd person Experimental servers only, I cant kill zombies with my fire axe. It goes right through them, all other hand weapons seems to work fine though.

Edited July 17, 2014 by Gladias