byrgesen 1341 Posted April 17, 2014 And I'm rejecting the idea because it comes from ARMA. The more people even mention that game the more they want it to become ARMA. Also, the stance system in ARMA 3 is so clunky it's already a pain in the ass just to get those stances. Yes, I am scared of of BiS adding in some advanced play the some might be able to achieve.... idiot. :rolleyes: So you are rejecting the idea because it comes from a game, from which DayZ is based upon?????!!!This has nothing to do with "DayZ becomming Arma", this has everything to do with adding more options to DayZ, and you dont need to be a fully trained ranger to peak over or around a wall really, now you're just being silly dude. As for the clunkyness of the stance system, have you even played Arma III?EVERYTHING related to player movement is way more smooth in Arma III then it has ever been in either Arma II or DayZ, so your argument is as invalid as it can possibly get here.Ohh and dont use insults just because you cant argue your case, its easier not to post anything tbh.... As far as im concerned, this is a very important to DayZ as it can change the way people interact with the enviorement completely and it will most certaingly add more immersion to the game.We need something like this in the game and i do believe we will get something along these lines, perhaps not a "copy/paste" of the stance system from Arma III, but something similar, as the current system isnt suffecient tbh. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036 Posted April 17, 2014 So you are rejecting the idea because it comes from a game, from which DayZ is based upon?????!!!This has nothing to do with "DayZ becomming Arma", this has everything to do with adding more options to DayZ, and you dont need to be a fully trained ranger to peak over or around a wall really, now you're just being silly dude. As for the clunkyness of the stance system, have you even played Arma III?EVERYTHING related to player movement is way more smooth in Arma III then it has ever been in either Arma II or DayZ, so your argument is as invalid as it can possibly get here.Ohh and dont use insults just because you cant argue your case, its easier not to post anything tbh.... As far as im concerned, this is a very important to DayZ as it can change the way people interact with the enviorement completely and it will most certaingly add more immersion to the game.We need something like this in the game and i do believe we will get something along these lines, perhaps not a "copy/paste" of the stance system from Arma III, but something similar, as the current system isnt suffecient tbh. I don't need to stoop to your level with insults. DayZ has enough controls already and is not a military simulator. There is no need to be adding every damn piece from the ARMA games. This is it's own separate entity. Adding more controls makes the game even more clunky and if they want to have this dream of porting it over to the consoles adding less unneeded controls is better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
byrgesen 1341 Posted April 17, 2014 I don't need to stoop to your level with insults. DayZ has enough controls already and is not a military simulator. There is no need to be adding every damn piece from the ARMA games. This is it's own separate entity. Adding more controls makes the game even more clunky and if they want to have this dream of porting it over to the consoles adding less unneeded controls is better. So i was insulting you? how? cuz i missed that lol..... I ask you, how does a stance system have anything to do with a "military simulator" as you call it?Take your friends to a paintball game and see them use a different stances, without any kind of military training mate, its called common sense tbh.People want to hide them selves if someone is aiming a gun at you, be it military or survival aspects, so i just cant see the connection to "military simulator" as you call it. And how is improving the stance system "adding every damn piece from the Arma games"??Again i dont understand what you mean, we are talking about improving the game, making the character alot more responsive and fluent.Adding more controls to Arma III did NOT make it more clunky, what so ever, so again your argument is invalid. Saying you dont want an improvement on the stance system, because it will become more clunky, is very naiv tbh.They did it with Arma III, so why shouldnt they be able to do it with DayZ?Its basicly the same engine, just a different branch of it, and i think we can all agree that character movement is well overdue for an overhaul, to make it more fluent. Regarding consoles, they should not hold back on idea because they might, sometime in the future, if the sun and planets are alligned correctly, port it to console.Thats counter productive tbh and tahts not how you develop a game, primarily for PC.Remember, consoles is way out in the future and i have to admit if people can use an Xbox controller in Arma III, i do think they will be able to do the same in DayZ really. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jex 1104 Posted April 17, 2014 I don't need to stoop to your level with insults. DayZ has enough controls already and is not a military simulator. There is no need to be adding every damn piece from the ARMA games. This is it's own separate entity. Adding more controls makes the game even more clunky and if they want to have this dream of porting it over to the consoles adding less unneeded controls is better. OK so basically what you're saying is that because you don't like it or want it, even though the advantages for the entire player base are huge, we shouldn't have it in the game. There's nothing "army" about it. Don't be so ridiculous! Since when has moving your body been anything to do with the army lmao. It's a great system, it should be tied to CTRL + Mouse Wheel up/down and it should be in every FPS out there! All First Person Shooters should have way more character control. Raven Shield did it really well too - you held down shift or something and then your mouse moved ur character. So u move the mouse up and you raise ur stance, move left and you lean left. A lot smoother than Arma's system but anything that gives you more real world control is a good thing. You don't have a single, credible argument for why it shouldn't be introduced. You're just throwing your teddy out the pram. Stop it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thesodesa 99 Posted April 17, 2014 Its definitely one of my favourite features of arma 3, I think it would fit in the standalone perfectly and offer something a lot of games don't. I like how you can use it to hold your rifle on your left side when leaning to the left. It's a cool feature and I can't imagine it being to much work getting it into standalone. How does it work in practise. Do you need different buttons/button combinations for all of the stances, or do you simply "scroll" up or down with 2 buttons? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickyspanish 158 Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) How does it work in practise. Do you need different buttons/button combinations for all of the stances, or do you simply "scroll" up or down with 2 buttons?Controls remain the same, but holding ctrl and pressing either w,a,s or d tweaks the stance in increments. So you would have normal crouch the ctrl + w would put you in a heightened crouch or ctrl + s would put you in a low crouch. Edited April 17, 2014 by Ricky Spanish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036 Posted April 17, 2014 You don't have a single, credible argument for why it shouldn't be introduced. You're just throwing your teddy out the pram. Stop it.Adding more controls makes the game even more clunky and if they want to have this dream of porting it over to the consoles adding less unneeded controls is better. Do I need to repeat myself again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted April 17, 2014 I would have wanted to merge this, but it's quite derailed already, so instead I will point you in this direction: http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/186014-list-of-already-existing-suggestions/ Make sure to read prior to posting, as in there you will find this: http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/178198-arma-3-stances/ 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Planck 7174 Posted April 17, 2014 Caboose187, on 17 Apr 2014 - 02:36 AM, said:Yes, I am scared of of BiS adding in some advanced play the some might be able to achieve.... idiot. :rolleyes: Disagreeing is no excuse for namecalling, it really shouldn't be necessary for me to keep telling you this.Please, be better. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
