[Poll] Should zombies only die if shot/axed in the head?

[Johnny Depth 167]

What say you guys??

 

Shot or hit in body, they can fall down or whatever but will get back up or crawl if their legs are broken?  but to kill them, you need a head shot or axed in head.

 

 

 

Agree?

 

 

GOOD

 

 

 

 

Hopefully in the future this will be implemented

[frosti 2165]

But if you use melee vs zombie you must always risk infection or being catched and bited.

[Max Planck 7174]

They are living people, not dead ones. Living people die when they get shot in vital organs.

[Wheunis 228]

Theres no option for "Yes, but only once melee is WAY less wonky"

 

;)

[lipemr 160]

They are living people, not dead ones. Living people die when they get shot in vital organs.

 

that are head and heart.

 

Any other organ will take some time to acutally kill if shot at.

[rickyriot 1009]

Unless it is absolutely necessary (for example in a cramped corridor) I never use a ranged weapon on a zombie - fire axe for the win; satisfying and quiet.

 

However the big problem is that you can't judge a headshot with an axe.

 

Looking much further down the line, dismemberment would be a great addition. The idea that the zombie would keep chasing you while you hack bits off would be quite fun, leaving the comedic element of having a chopped in half zombie slowly slithering it's way to you until you finally finish them off with a headshot.

[Gerandar 212]

that are head and heart.

 

Any other organ will take some time to acutally kill if shot at.

 

Yeah but if I blow your kidneys off your not getting up to chase me anytime soon.

[combatcomm1 234]

As others have said they are humans and so therefore should be able to die from shots in other locations however......

 

one could argue an infected human does not have self preservation, will to live, the same pain threshold and does have more energy or in a state similar to people on PCP and amphetamines and so therefore can last a lot longer than a player while and after taking damage. 

 

For example if a player is shot in the stomach they will collapse due to pain response alone. A zombie shot in the same spot could continue coming at you unless you hit the heart, brain, or they eventually lose enough blood that their muscles and motor systems cannot function any longer and they too collapse, start crawling and clawing at you and eventually die. 

[billyangstadt 272]

that are head and heart.

 

Any other organ will take some time to acutally kill if shot at.

The head is an organ?

Oh, and I guarantee if you take a round to the lungs, or anywhere in the abdomen really, you're eventually going to die shortly after

 

Again, this is not The Walking Dead. These are not "walkers". These are infected citizens that are very much alive.

[=fox= damocles 54]

What say you guys??

 

Shot or hit in body, they can fall down or whatever but will get back up or crawl if their legs are broken?  but to kill them, you need a head shot or axed in head.

 

 

 

Agree?

 

 

GOOD

 

 

 

 

Hopefully in the future this will be implemented

 

I didn't choose an option... I only ever go for the head...

[IkaikaKekai 1957]

that are head and heart.

 

Any other organ will take some time to acutally kill if shot at.

Forgot the lungs, kidneys, liver...yeah you might not die instantly but you're not going to be chasing me.

[chekovp 89]

Forgot the lungs, kidneys, liver...yeah you might not die instantly but you're not going to be chasing me.

 

Also, any of the arteries going through your body. This will cause you to die very fast.

[sacrdandprofne 100]

These are not "walkers". These are infected citizens that are very much alive.

This saddens me.

If they're just "rage virus" zombies: any injury should do.

The undead? Head shot.

Edited February 15, 2014 by sacrdandprofne

[Wheunis 228]

This saddens me.

 

I think of it more as a mutated kind of rabies, rather than the undead we are so used to in "lore".

[sacrdandprofne 100]

I think of it more as a mutated kind of rabies, rather than the undead we are so used to in "lore".

That's probably the idea, but still saddens me. :(

It's true that real "zombies" were very much alive people who were poisoned by voodoo concoctions. Nowadays we love the "grr, arg, brains" version. I prefer the latter, I admit.

Edited February 15, 2014 by sacrdandprofne

[rezinsky 14]

The head is an organ?

Oh, and I guarantee if you take a round to the lungs, or anywhere in the abdomen really, you're eventually going to die shortly after

 

Again, this is not The Walking Dead. These are not "walkers". These are infected citizens that are very much alive.

 

Agreed, the very concept of "living Dead" is impossible, for muscles cannot fill with blood to flex and move without a beating heart so it is quite realistic that shooting the heart would lead to death. However perhaps gut and other shots take longer to die from after all the zombie sickness does enhance the integrity of the human body (quick blood clotting, no pain response what ever your preferred justification) plus until mouse smoothing and acceleration are..well... smooth and accelerated the head is almost not worth a probable miss.

[Wheunis 228]

Agreed, the very concept of "living Dead" is impossible, for muscles cannot fill with blood to flex and move without a beating heart so it is quite realistic that shooting the heart would lead to death. However perhaps gut and other shots take longer to die from after all the zombie sickness does enhance the integrity of the human body (quick blood clotting, no pain response what ever your preferred justification) plus until mouse smoothing and acceleration are..well... smooth and accelerated the head is almost not worth a probable miss.

 

Not entirely true, that part about no blood = no flex.

 

A pretty wide range of micro-organisms are able to produce quite measurable amounts of electric charge that would cause muscles to "flex" or "spasm" even well after death of the host.

[sacrdandprofne 100]

Agreed, the very concept of "living Dead" is impossible, for muscles cannot fill with blood to flex and move without a beating heart so it is quite realistic that shooting the heart would lead to death. However perhaps gut and other shots take longer to die from after all the zombie sickness does enhance the integrity of the human body (quick blood clotting, no pain response what ever your preferred justification) plus until mouse smoothing and acceleration are..well... smooth and accelerated the head is almost not worth a probable miss.

The idea is that the brain is still firing electric pulses, which WOULD cause jerky muscle movement. Albeit incredibly uncoordinated, but movement nonetheless.

That's enough for Hollywood to go crazy. This is also not counting in Romero's radiation concept.

Edited February 15, 2014 by sacrdandprofne

[victusmortuus 1074]

This would 100% make zombies a huge threat. This is something people of this community have wanted since I've been a member. The mod introduced terrible mechanics for zombies, infection 100% on hit. zombies tripping you up when hitting you, harder zombies which take lots of rounds to kill. 

 

This game is in alpha, why not just try this to see if they actually are a bigger threat -which they will be-. Forget the 'lore' Dayz has no lore, think of the gameplay and how we can actually make a zombie game an actual zombie game with scary and fearful zombies.

[sacrdandprofne 100]

The mod introduced terrible mechanics for zombies, infection 100% on hit.

This would be terrifying.

Let's do it.

[victusmortuus 1074]

This would be terrifying.

Let's do it.

 

It's terrifyingly shit. Trust me, nobody liked it.

[Gorgeous Richie 7]

Another aspect is bothering me. Players are much stronger than zombie. I mean zombie takes one shot to kill, player? 2-6, depends on.

[Gerandar 212]

Another aspect is bothering me. Players are much stronger than zombie. I mean zombie takes one shot to kill, player? 2-6, depends on.

 

well there body is riddled with sickness, they haven't eaten much other then raw flesh of there victims so I assume they are near death as it is.

[fitzee 248]

Hi.

 

Although the zeds are more like 28 days later rage infection, rather than the classic Romero zombie, I would still like the idea of needing headshots to kill, just so the zeds will actually pose a threat. IMHO headshots combined with a much larger number of zeds, would make the game much better for anyone except the pure death match crowd, of course there isn't anything pure about death matching in a totally unbalanced game like DayZ anyhow.

 

If nothing else, the possibility of this being done in a mod later exists. If that happened, I probably wouldn't ever play vanilla DayZ again.

 

Regards.

[rickyriot 1009]

I would still like the idea of needing headshots to kill, just so the zeds will actually pose a threat. IMHO headshots combined with a much larger number of zeds, would make the game much better for anyone except the pure death match crowd, of course there isn't anything pure about death matching in a totally unbalanced game like DayZ anyhow.

I think the balance needs to be struck regarding players who are geared up versus bambis. I agree with you that once you have some level of protection, an axe for example, then no zombie should cause you a problem and even packs of 10 or so it would still be manageable as they are now. However if you are a fresh spawn it could be a bugger of a steep curve in regard to survival. I think it would be enjoyable just a difficult one to balance.

That said when the mod first made a breakthrough and there were stories of the average life spans being something like 10 minutes, that was half of the challenge!