What to expect from the Ruger 10/22

[JalapaJuiceJerry 9]

All of this information is based off of the real gun. This is what we should assume if they are trying to make the gun realistic.

So I've become drastically paranoid lately because of the amount of people getting frustrated that the Ruger wont be a one shot zombie kill, or that it wont be acurate at long ranges.

First off, its not a hunting rifle. YES, I know that it can be used to bust squirrels (which i do quote often as I'm an avid hunter) but it is a plinker, a sporting rifle. So dont expect it to be high powered. Next, it has a standard 10 round rotary mag, so no it is NOT the B95 like many people think. It can take 20, 30, 40, and 50 round mags. I have even seen in stores a 100 round drum mag for it. In real life I can hit a Gatorade bottle with it at 100 yards with a 4x scope. BUT it only penatrates one side of the bottle and the slug is stopped on the other side. So dont expect it to be a good gun for survivor killing, it should act as a zombie defense gun. It should take quite. A few shots to even take out a zombie, remember a .22 is not that powerful.

I also think that this should spawn mostly in barns and residential house, not school, house spirals or military areas. Ammo should follow where the gun spawns.

Just wanted to clarify some stuff with the Ruger, can't wait for it to be in the game and I think it'll be a great addition.

[Deathlove 2286]

People get rifles mixed with actual sniper guns all the time its quite funny.

[Rudette 435]

I think I saw some art/renders of it being shown off with the 30 round mag somewhere on reddit! (even though it will probably come standard with 10?)

I speculate that it will be easy to aim with a decent rate of fire, probably little if any recoil.

Edited February 13, 2014 by Rudette

[Korsbaek 1778]

I think it should be a one shot gun for zeds if you head shot them.

 

From what I know, a .22 can penetrate a skull and bounce around inside. This should be enough to kill.

[Deathlove 2286]

I think I saw some art/renders of it being shown off with the 30 round mag somewhere on reddit! (even though it will probably come standard with 10?)

I speculate that it will be easy to aim with a decent rate of fire, probably little if any recoil.

So there kind of making it like a civilian battle rifle with cartridge intake than?

[spartanxapathy 203]

But but but, its a rifle. That means its a sniper gun...

 

 

#sarcasm

[Johnny Depth 167]

If it is a .22 caliber, I expect it to be very accurate with little-to-no recoil. Not very powerful of course. 

[Hutch (DayZ) 116]

Love the 10/22.

Not ideal for Zombies unless you hit them in the head.

Would be ideal for Rabbit hunting in the wild north.

 

As for Large animals and Survivors, it should cause bleeding but virtually no shock or health loss.

So if you hit someone with it, you'll just make them mad. Unless it's a head shot at close range.

[Johnny Depth 167]

I hope there is a very large surplus of .22 ammo 

[Mdogg2005 447]

That's one strong Gatorade bottle.  I often shoot .22LR when I'm not shooting my big toys and I shoot bottles and targets all the time.  At 50-100 yds a .22 will easily penetrate a water or Gatorade bottle.  These guns are not a joke, even though they lack stopping power and "oomph" of larger caliber firearms.  These will still easily kill people.  They are actually quite popular in concealed carry guns.  Make no mistake, these are lethal and dangerous, albeit not as much as a larger caliber.

[Rudette 435]

So there kind of making it like a civilian battle rifle with cartridge intake than?

Semi-Auto, not a very far effective range. (100ish or less yards?) Think it'll be good for guerrilla takedowns, low recoil means it's probably easy to get consecutive headshots even on moving targets if you get accustomed to the weapon.

Edited February 13, 2014 by Rudette

[Johnny Depth 167]

Also, .22 can come in boxes that contain 500 rounds, which should only take on up space in your inventory.  I hope they do this.

[Mdogg2005 447]

I speculate that it will be easy to aim with a decent rate of fire, probably little if any recoil.

Makes sense.  Up to a certain distance these things are dead on, make almost no noise (no ear protection is needed when shooting these), and have literally no kick or recoil.

 

I think it should be a one shot gun for zeds if you head shot them.

 

From what I know, a .22 can penetrate a skull and bounce around inside. This should be enough to kill.

I agree with this. Also you are correct.  If the shot is placed correctly and the distance is right, these rounds can be fatal on several parts of the body (at least to humans anyway).

 

So there kind of making it like a civilian battle rifle with cartridge intake than?

Erm.. .22LR =/= battle rifle.  Have you ever shot a .22 in real life or seen even youtube videos with them being fired in real life?  They are not battle rifles or sniper rifles.. they are just rifles.  Also, all guns have cartridge intake.  Whether manually loaded or magazine loaded, most guns you see take cartridges and fire them.

Edited February 13, 2014 by Mdogg2005

[Mdogg2005 447]

Mods please delete.  I condensed my posts.

Edited February 13, 2014 by Mdogg2005

[Mdogg2005 447]

Mods please delete.  Condensed my posts.

Edited February 13, 2014 by Mdogg2005

[Hutch (DayZ) 116]

I think it should be a one shot gun for zeds if you head shot them.

 

From what I know, a .22 can penetrate a skull and bounce around inside. This should be enough to kill.

Only at close range.

At 100 yards it may not penetrate a heavy coat. It's down to ~900FPS which is airgun speed.

At 50 yards it still has 1000FPS and 89 ft. lbs. so it'll probably get through a skull at 50 yards.

 

Is a .22 lethal, of course it can be, but the size and speed of the bullet makes a very small hole.

It will take a long time to bleed out from a hit to the abdomen or any large muscle group.

A headshot or heart shot would be necessary for a quick takedown.

Otherwise, like I said, they have plenty of time to bandage and then beat you to death with the empty rifle.

 

An M4 fires a bullet almost the same diameter as the .22 but since the velocity is so much higher it creates a much larger wound cavity and thus more shock and a much faster drop in blood pressure.

 

That's one strong Gatorade bottle.

Water is a great bullet stopper. If the bottle is full of water it'll drop the velocity significantly.

I often find pellets from my air rifle inside a leaky Gatorade bottle.

Edited February 13, 2014 by Hutch

[JalapaJuiceJerry 9]

I forgot to add in a couple points you guys brought up. I agree it should have virtually no recoil. If it's realistic I would love to be able to find a screw on Picetente rail and be able to attach any scope, like I've done in real life. Honestly you would be surprised by how inaccurate it can be at long ranges. I also agree that it should be a one shot kill if you hit a zombie, 3-4 for body shots. I also like the idea of being able to find hollow point shots for it, which will cause more bleeding. I agree with one of the posts, the 22. Should make a survivor bleed pretty well.

Last point, if a survivor has a helmet, even if badly damaged it should deflect the slug, or slow it down enough not to kill. I'm still in real life it has both succeeded and failed at killing humans via a shot to the head.

[Mdogg2005 447]

Also, .22 can come in boxes that contain 500 rounds, which should only take on up space in your inventory.  I hope they do this.

I doubt it, if for nothing other than game balance issues.

 

 

Only at close range.

At 100 yards it may not penetrate a heavy coat. It's down to ~900FPS which is airgun speed.

At 50 yards it still has 1000FPS and 89 ft. lbs. so it'll probably get through a skull at 50 yards.

This.

[JalapaJuiceJerry 9]

Also It should be pretty quite. I shoot it without ear plugs, should be heard up to 150-200 yards away and that's it.

That's one strong Gatorade bottle.  I often shoot .22LR when I'm not shooting my big toys and I shoot bottles and targets all the time.  At 50-100 yds a .22 will easily penetrate a water or Gatorade bottle. 

To reply to this, I hit it 5 times at 100 yards, 3 of them were stopped, 2 passed through. But they are definitely lethal at close ranges. They can literally shoot as fast as you can pull the trigger. And yes, they mostly come in boxes of 100, 250, or 500, all of those should take up 1 slot.

[Ovomaltine 30]

I think if it kills zombies or not with a shot to the head depends entirely on the definition of a zombie.

If the infection leaves the autonomic nervous system alone it should kill a zombie with 1-2 headshots, like it would do to a human.

But if the damage threshold to the brain is actually raised because the infection changes the brain physically... like make it grow more collagenous tissue...

or reorganize the autonomous system in terms of location then it would be a reason to adjust headshot damage.

 

But well, that all comes to the question of what ones understanding of the changes is the zombie infection does to humans...

[PhillyT 554]

The 10/22 was voted in but it is a gun without purpose.

 

It is weak, I would assume rare in Russia (and therefore Chernarus), and short ranged.

 

I just don't see a purpose other than shooting rabbits.  You would need to empty all 10 rounds into a person to have a sure chance of killing them.

[soulfirez 901]

Only at close range.

At 100 yards it may not penetrate a heavy coat. It's down to ~900FPS which is airgun speed.

At 50 yards it still has 1000FPS and 89 ft. lbs. so it'll probably get through a skull at 50 yards.

 

Is a .22 lethal, of course it can be, but the size and speed of the bullet makes a very small hole.

It will take a long time to bleed out from a hit to the abdomen or any large muscle group.

A headshot or heart shot would be necessary for a quick takedown.

 

Otherwise, like I said, they have plenty of time to bandage and then beat you to death with the empty rifle.

 

 

Water is a great bullet stopper. If the bottle is full of water it'll drop the velocity significantly.

I often find pellets from my air rifle inside a leaky Gatorade bottle.

So when used with a similar range scope to the pu it would be quite effective being semi auto near silent( quite enough his mates 2 buildings over may not notice?) low recoil a good starter rifle for the zed apoc ( i mean come on right now we got fairly high grade stuff even if some of it old tech)

Edited February 13, 2014 by SoulFirez

[Deathlove 2286]

The 10/22 was voted in but it is a gun without purpose.

 

It is weak, I would assume rare in Russia (and therefore Chernarus), and short ranged.

 

I just don't see a purpose other than shooting rabbits.  You would need to empty all 10 rounds into a person to have a sure chance of killing them.

Its probably going to be a common starting gun latter on in game. You know work your way up with this weapon than latter with a shotgun than an M4A1 or AK around the end game probably.

[The-MCV- 149]

Am I the only one tired of primary weapons? Add a Makarov maybe....

[BadAsh (DayZ) 1513]

The 10/22 was voted in but it is a gun without purpose.

 

As a relative latecomer to this party, I hope you don't mind me asking: Who and where did this voting take place? Just interested in knowing how this went down.