More Effective, Less Frustrating, Hopper/Logger Solution

[excitable1 156]

What a waste of time this whole thing was. 

 

you are 100% correct.

 

you think if the dev's were to read this that they would not be able to see through your B.S?

 

ANYONE with even half a brain could see what your true intent was.

[CaptainJupe 9]

Solopopo. I understand what ur trying to say from the start. You just worded it wrong and didnt go into full detail right away about the hopping. You do it to keep up with the pace of all the other exploiters. Like the gamma exploit, why run around not using it while everyone else is? It leaves you at a disadvantage. Most people server hop to get gear. Most people that dont, have a crew they play with which makes searching for valuable loot easier (not saying everyone tht doesnt has a crew).

Now for your idea... I am not a fan because as many people said u can cancel the logout which making the timer pretty much useless. If you could not cancel the log out timer and use the idea that was stated before about more time in low pop servers and less in high. I think thats the best system we can get.

Dont feed into the assholes on this thread. People dont know how to debate correctly, and only use insults to try and make you dwindle with weakness. That 40 year old probably has nothing better to do then sit and insult you because he has nothing going for him and gets insulted on a daily basis himself. Bullies are always bullied themselves. People need to express their opinions without using hateful words or insults. It makes them look childish. Before he mentioned his age, i could have sworn he was 16 on daddys computer.

I applaud you for keeping level headed and not firing back at him as rough as he fired at you. You obviously have a good head on your shoulders, we need more people that think rationally in this world as you do. But thats an entirely different discussion. My advice, stop responding, this is just going to add stress to your day and after its all over, be worthless and a waste of time when u could be focusing on something more important.

Cheers

[OrLoK 16185]

@Solopopo 3 times at least you have been directly offensive to people in this thread.

 

The insults stop or you take a break. 

 

Have your opinion and even argue your case, but those insults stop now.

 

L

[CaptainJupe 9]

@Solopopo 3 times at least you have been directly offensive to people in this thread.

The insults stop or you take a break.

Have your opinion and even argue your case, but those insults stop now.

L

And nothing will be said about people insulting him? This has to be a joke right? He kept level headed until everyone took it out of hand. Then he felt the need to fire back under pressure.

[Solopopo 330]

How would it work better to stop server hopping?

 

You loot Balota, go into the trees, log out all the while being able to see who is coming so you can't be killed unexpectedly, hop to a different server and repeat.

 

How does that not make it easier for you? You can stand up to end the timer if you see anyone, thus meaning that you can get away from being killed after logging (safer than current) and you are proposing that you won't get hit with a timer upon log in, so you can go back to looting quicker.

 

How is that not wanting a new system that works out more in favour of server hoppers than current. 

 

Currently you see someone teleport into Balota, loot it then run into the bushes to log out. You kill them. Failing that they have to wait 5 mins to be able to loot again. Your proposition rids the server hopper of both these things. In other words they favour server hoppers...

First, thank you for finally posting on topic. I'm going to make this directly to the point. No BS

 

The current system is not actually stopping hoppers from taking items. Players are logging into fresh servers like they always have, and lapping up the loot. Then they travel to a new loot spot, and by the time they get there, their timers are reset and they search for a new fresh server. The current system is an annoyance more than anything. Sure it seems like it's stopping hopping, because it stops YOU from hopping legitimately, but it is not stopping hoppers who are looking for loot. People have commented saying that I must be mad that I can't hop anymore, but I am still hopping no problem. If anything, it has made hopping easier for the more experienced hoppers, because you can't just go down the list and click server after server anymore. You actually have to make sure are joining a fresh server. So the number of hoppers is down, but the number of items that are being jacked by hoppers remains the same.

 

The current combat logging system doesn't always work. I have combat logged successfully several times. I have watched people log out in front of me. Their bodies disappear a little while later leaving behind no loot. Sometimes it actually does work, but sometimes it doesn't. 

 

Therefore, since log in timers aren't doing their job, and combat logging only sometimes work, I have suggested an alternative that accomplishes no less than the prior system, but is at the same time less of a frustration for players who actually aren't hopping for items. Also, players have wanted to be able to "sleep" for a long time, so it would be a nifty way to implement that.

 

Is it going to stop the server hopper from running into the woods and waiting a minute to log? No, but logging into the open field of Belota, then having to run in the open to where the items are, is not as safe as logging into one room really quickly, then leaving.

 

Log out timers in game are what I am proposing because players should be locked INTO servers instead of OUT of them. Outside the server a hopper is safe. At least inside the server they can be killed.

 

So there you have it. Agree or disagree, maybe even make me see the error of my ways, but don't do whatever it was you were doing before please.

Edited February 13, 2014 by Solopopo

[OrLoK 16185]

Hello there

 

If you or any other member feel they have been personally insulted or if you see a member break the rules then use the report button.

 

We allow arguments to get heated, we dont like personal insults from anyone.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

[soulfirez 901]

Solopopo. I understand what ur trying to say from the start. You just worded it wrong and didnt go into full detail right away about the hopping. You do it to keep up with the pace of all the other exploiters. Like the gamma exploit, why run around not using it while everyone else is? It leaves you at a disadvantage. Most people server hop to get gear. Most people that dont, have a crew they play with which makes searching for valuable loot easier (not saying everyone tht doesnt has a crew).

Now for your idea... I am not a fan because as many people said u can cancel the logout which making the timer pretty much useless. If you could not cancel the log out timer and use the idea that was stated before about more time in low pop servers and less in high. I think thats the best system we can get.

Dont feed into the assholes on this thread. People dont know how to debate correctly, and only use insults to try and make you dwindle with weakness. That 40 year old probably has nothing better to do then sit and insult you because he has nothing going for him and gets insulted on a daily basis himself. Bullies are always bullied themselves. People need to express their opinions without using hateful words or insults. It makes them look childish. Before he mentioned his age, i could have sworn he was 16 on daddys computer.

I applaud you for keeping level headed and not firing back at him as rough as he fired at you. You obviously have a good head on your shoulders, we need more people that think rationally in this world as you do. But thats an entirely different discussion. My advice, stop responding, this is just going to add stress to your day and after its all over, be worthless and a waste of time when u could be focusing on something more important.

Cheers

he didnt wow i didnt have to go far back to find one... a level headed person wouldnt have proposed such an idea.

 

You are retarded. It was made clear from the start that I server hop.

 

What a waste of time this whole thing was. 

As for do i get insulted perhaps but not often to my face can you pick which one i am and which is my nephew??

 

Id almost think your the OPs alternate account??

 

I am happy to discuss methods of improving the system as it stands but ah if everyone tells you how your suggestion fails and you happily move on ignoring the flaws and pointing out your an exploiter your going to get owned.. There has been some decent ideas suggested but not by the OP. ( yes i know i am ugly thankfully my wife tolerates it..)

[Solopopo 330]

@Solopopo 3 times at least you have been directly offensive to people in this thread.

 

The insults stop or you take a break. 

 

Have your opinion and even argue your case, but those insults stop now.

 

L

 

And nothing will be said about people insulting him? This has to be a joke right? He kept level headed until everyone took it out of hand. Then he felt the need to fire back under pressure.

Thank you. Was about to say this myself, but decided against it. I'm so glad someone else noticed this. I lasted as long as I could. 

Edited February 13, 2014 by Solopopo

[Solopopo 330]

he didnt wow i didnt have to go far back to find one... a level headed person wouldnt have proposed such an idea.

 

As for do i get insulted perhaps but not often to my face can you pick which one i am and which is my nephew??

 

Id almost think your the OPs alternate account??

 

I am happy to discuss methods of improving the system as it stands but ah if everyone tells you how your suggestion fails and you happily move on ignoring the flaws and pointing out your an exploiter your going to get owned.. There has been some decent ideas suggested but not by the OP. ( yes i know i am ugly thankfully my wife tolerates it..)

Stand down tough guy. I may have made mistakes, but you have been outright outrageous. No offense intended. Hmmm, though now that I look at your picture all of your aggression does start to make sense.

Edited February 13, 2014 by Solopopo

[OrLoK 16185]

Back on topic please.

[Grimey Rick 3417]

LOL JK

Edited February 13, 2014 by Grimey Rick

[Solopopo 330]

Solopopo. I understand what ur trying to say from the start. You just worded it wrong and didnt go into full detail right away about the hopping. You do it to keep up with the pace of all the other exploiters. Like the gamma exploit, why run around not using it while everyone else is? It leaves you at a disadvantage. Most people server hop to get gear. Most people that dont, have a crew they play with which makes searching for valuable loot easier (not saying everyone tht doesnt has a crew).

Now for your idea... I am not a fan because as many people said u can cancel the logout which making the timer pretty much useless. If you could not cancel the log out timer and use the idea that was stated before about more time in low pop servers and less in high. I think thats the best system we can get.

Dont feed into the assholes on this thread. People dont know how to debate correctly, and only use insults to try and make you dwindle with weakness. That 40 year old probably has nothing better to do then sit and insult you because he has nothing going for him and gets insulted on a daily basis himself. Bullies are always bullied themselves. People need to express their opinions without using hateful words or insults. It makes them look childish. Before he mentioned his age, i could have sworn he was 16 on daddys computer.

I applaud you for keeping level headed and not firing back at him as rough as he fired at you. You obviously have a good head on your shoulders, we need more people that think rationally in this world as you do. But thats an entirely different discussion. My advice, stop responding, this is just going to add stress to your day and after its all over, be worthless and a waste of time when u could be focusing on something more important.

Cheers

Thank you for taking the time to post that. Greatly appreciated.

 

I considered suggesting a lot out timer that can't be canceled. But I've seen some people on the boards dislike that idea, so I reduced it to 10 seconds. I agree. I think those two suggestions together are the best alternative. 

 

 

 

LOL JK

 

Almost get yourself banned?  :rolleyes:

Edited February 13, 2014 by Solopopo

[Solopopo 330]

love it....you finally admitted it would make it easier.

Did you stop reading after that sentence?

Edited February 13, 2014 by Solopopo

[Grimey Rick 3417]

Almost get yourself banned?  :rolleyes:

 

Haha, I was just gonna bug Hulk Hogan about his picture by posting my own selfie. Alas, 'tis neither the time nor place for such cocksuckery.

 

P.S: Damn Soul, you scary.

[doctorbadsign 645]

Here is my suggestion with regards to server hopping.

 

Collate data to work out how many times is reasonable for a legitimate player to change servers in a row within a certain time period (lets say 20 mins). I'd say in the worst case scenario a legit player would only change servers 2 times before getting to one that they could play on.

 

Make it so that anyone who hops servers more than that given number within 20 mins of joining their last server should have their character wiped. 

 

Or if that is too harsh, same system but rather than a char wipe, they get spawned in the middle of nowhere, and continue to get spawned there every subsequent server hop.

 

How about that? ;)

[CaptainJupe 9]

Here is my suggestion with regards to server hopping.

Collate data to work out how many times is reasonable for a legitimate player to change servers in a row within a certain time period (lets say 20 mins). I'd say in the worst case scenario a legit player would only change servers 2 times before getting to one that they could play on.

Make it so that anyone who hops servers more than that given number within 20 mins of joining their last server should have their character wiped.

Or if that is too harsh, same system but rather than a char wipe, they get spawned in the middle of nowhere, and continue to get spawned there every subsequent server hop.

How about that? ;)

Not a fan of the character wipe but the spawning lets say 500 to 1000 m away in certain designated "middle of nowhere" places could work.

[excitable1 156]

Did you stop reading after that sentence?

 

more or less..

 

the only thing i discern from your post is "I want it to be easier to server hop"

[Solopopo 330]

Here is my suggestion with regards to server hopping.

 

Collate data to work out how many times is reasonable for a legitimate player to change servers in a row within a certain time period (lets say 20 mins). I'd say in the worst case scenario a legit player would only change servers 2 times before getting to one that they could play on.

 

Make it so that anyone who hops servers more than that given number within 20 mins of joining their last server should have their character wiped. 

 

Or if that is too harsh, same system but rather than a char wipe, they get spawned in the middle of nowhere, and continue to get spawned there every subsequent server hop.

 

How about that? ;)

Spawning in the middle of nowhere sounds better. 

[Solopopo 330]

more or less..

 

the only thing i discern from your post is "I want it to be easier to server hop"

It might be wise to read what you're responding to. 

Edited February 13, 2014 by Solopopo

[pillock 850]

If you dont want to be able to, and you want to stop server logging I have an idea for ya!

 

How about you have a BLIND 2 minute log out timer, and your character starts snoring after the first minute alerting everything within 100m of his position.

 

Your character can not change servers more than once every hour.

 

 

This is fantastic idea.

 

Hope the Developers see your suggestion.

[soulfirez 901]

Here is my suggestion with regards to server hopping.

 

Collate data to work out how many times is reasonable for a legitimate player to change servers in a row within a certain time period (lets say 20 mins). I'd say in the worst case scenario a legit player would only change servers 2 times before getting to one that they could play on.

 

Make it so that anyone who hops servers more than that given number within 20 mins of joining their last server should have their character wiped. 

 

Or if that is too harsh, same system but rather than a char wipe, they get spawned in the middle of nowhere, and continue to get spawned there every subsequent server hop.

 

How about that? ;)

That has promise question by middle of nowhere do you mean the calculated largest distance from high level loot?? What would logging into previously played server do (as im not sure they could tell a hop from a log in if they can i am happy to now how)

[helcol 174]

Not a fan of the character wipe but the spawning lets say 500 to 1000 m away in certain designated "middle of nowhere" places could work.

I still see that as an exploitable use, people using it to combat log easier (and join on the same server away from combat) offering an opportunity for ghosting.

 

The best fix in my eyes is to have it so people who legitimately leave the game using the exit button and will wait for ~30 seconds-ish (want a WoW style timer that CAN NOT be cancel able) and people who alt-f4 will have their char standing there for about 2 minutes doing an animation that shows that they combat logged.

 

Also, you can't activate the exit key until you are in the forest.

 

Ultimately, these are the problems that need to be discussed. As to the OP, don't pretend to retain a sense of honor when you preform the despicable art of exploiting the game. Let us be honest, you are not 'testing' server hopping because testing implies that it will be part of the official release.

 

news flash: IT WILL NOT!

[Solopopo 330]

This is fantastic idea.

 

Hope the Developers see your suggestion.

I'm sorry to say I missed this proposal in the calamity. A sleep timer like this would be great, although it is basically my original idea tweaked a bit. Don't know what about the way he said it made it seem so great. I don't like the hour idea though. That's terrible. 

[doctorbadsign 645]

Not a fan of the character wipe but the spawning lets say 500 to 1000 m away in certain designated "middle of nowhere" places could work.

 

Nah I'm thinking way out in the middle of nowhere, as in its going to take you a long time to even get to a small town.

[pillock 850]

Why would you want to switch servers more than once every hour, unless you were hopping for loot?

 

Anyway, taking the "log out = sleep" idea to its logical conclusion, each character should have an awake/tired meter (similar to hunger/thirst) - so if you aren't tired, you CANNOT go to sleep and therefore cannot log off!