Evil Minion 943 Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) We do not have a single sniper rifle in game right now. But I agree focus should be on more basic weapons right now as sniper rifles would need some basic concepts in place first (see above).However, if the devs REALLY wanted a dedicated long-ranged round, I could stand by .338.I don't like this round by virtue of being too dedicated - any pile of this ammo would only ever be used by a sniper while .50 cal (BMG or the Russian version) also serves as ammunition for heavy machine guns. This broader application is what makes it a better choice in my opinion. Also as you said the numerous .30 cal cartridges are probably good enough for "sniping" and open possibilities for a high number of weapons as well (including battle rifles and general purpose machine guns). And if the plan is still the same we will get 3 of them (7.62x54mmR, 7.62x51mm NATO and .30-06). The .338 Lapua would be too close here. By the setting all three rounds would make sense. In terms of gameplay its probably better to concentrate on a single one that allows for a broader spectrum and more differences compared to the .30 cal rounds - while being sufficiently rare. The .338 Lapua is the worst choice here being both closer to the smaller rounds and having comparatively limited applications. Edited October 23, 2014 by Evil Minion 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UltimateGentleman 355 Posted October 23, 2014 Inbf NO snipers are pretty much one hit kill anyway, I wouldn't want something like that with the lack of gore in the game if half of people's torso's weren't getting blown off what would be the point. It's just so unnecessary anyway every shot would probably attract every zombie in existence nobody in their right mind would use one of these for anything but PVP where it again isn't needed. I'd rather another semi-auto rifle to another sniper or anything else right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted October 23, 2014 Going to try and implement more organization into each section this weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terminal_boy 860 Posted October 23, 2014 The m1 carbine fires a catridge in between the power of a .357 magnum (from a pistol, not a rifle] and a 7.62x39. It used to be common (militarily] until the proliferation of the assault rifle. I can't see why it'd be common when clearly superior rifles were around, but maybe in the apocalypse everybody took the AKs, seeing as they're so rare now. Terminal boy, you seem to be a debbie downer. Nobody uses 21st century rail systems on it, you're not funny, and you british have this irrational hatred of guns. m1 carbines are somewhat common in the Us and can be had for as much as a GOOD ak. I've actually been hankering for a good semi auto carbine in the game that's not an AK or an AR, and has a proper detachable mag. The winchester .351 can be converted to fire .357 ammo, maybe this would make a better option? Or just make the m1 carbine use .357, whatever. I'd love it. "Debbie downer"? Are you from the 1950s? Can I borrow your time machine? Personally, I'm English, not British and I fucking love guns! They just make me nervous when held by people that failed to get a GED. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedogfoodyayho 295 Posted October 23, 2014 They won't add .30 carbine for one gun. Anyway the USSR never received any/very few of these. (dont russians have internet? im sure they can get US made weapons). Maybe, but not these. In Russia, you have to be in a Hunting Club and have a license to have any weapon with Rifling (So, they can only have Shotguns and Muskets) and even then I don't think they can have anything that holds more than 10 rounds. ((And anyway, I doubt any US seller would bother offering to ship M1's to Russia, where no one would buy them anyway because how the fuck would they get .30 carbine, if the gun even cleared customs which it wouldn't)) Chernarus seems similar with magazine capacity, since pretty much the best thing you can find in houses is an SKS. However, the Germans where known to use captured Carbines. Some ended up on the eastern front, as proved by this video. Skip to 6:21.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NF_einR70Qso there is an EXTRELMLY slim possibility that a Russian could have brought ne home, even though it was highly illegal in the USSR and I doubt it could have been hidden for 74 years. Even then, no ammo. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terminal_boy 860 Posted October 23, 2014 At last, the voice of reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted October 23, 2014 Inbf NO snipers are pretty much one hit kill anyway, I wouldn't want something like that with the lack of gore in the game if half of people's torso's weren't getting blown off what would be the point. It's just so unnecessary anyway every shot would probably attract every zombie in existence nobody in their right mind would use one of these for anything but PVP where it again isn't needed. I'd rather another semi-auto rifle to another sniper or anything else right now.Historically, sniper rifles were made to be one shot kill rifles (in fact, most guns are built like that) Besides, being vulnerable and knowing that all you've accumulated can be wiped clean in an instant (through sudden attacks/snipers) is something that DayZ has had since the beginning. At the ranges we're talking about, guns like the SVD would work very well as sniper rifles, I don't think we need to be making weapons that are specifically developed to shoot more than a kilometer simply to have them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nokyookami 63 Posted October 23, 2014 Read more carefully next time. Apologies if this sounded harsh God Bless!Sorry i Read it, it Was Just Confusing Me i Guess With the way it was Worded "The likelyhood of it appearing on the list right now is low due to focus on other sections" i took it as it Might not appear due to disinterest sorry for Confusion wasn't sure how it was MentAnyway as you were Speaking of, i Suggested it a bit back in here I was Just Re-posting to bring it up for discussion again see if anyone was on Board Since it Kinda Got Barried wasnt sure if it got Missed and how the thread was going about Adding (if things get Buried Stay Buried or if Someone goes and Checks through)And was Told Weapon Suggestions should go Here Rather than Starting New Suggestion threadsSorry For any trouble Caused ^_^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
star-lord252 83 Posted October 24, 2014 Golden AKM shouldn't be added(I doubt there's one in the state). But instead it should be crafting by applying something like golden spray paint. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
star-lord252 83 Posted October 24, 2014 M1 carbine is a good idea to balance the SKS and mosin but the m1 garand would be nice to Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stielhandgranate 480 Posted October 24, 2014 Actually it is not senseless Evil, read the post again, go on go ahead. The post's purpose is to say post all your weapon suggestions in the future on the Community's List so that we can prevent the clutter of weapon threads. Read more carefully next time and think deeper. I did not say a single fucking thing about the M1 Carbine in that one post, however, you are correct that i made it clear in other threads because i watched as the community argued back and forth between it. The forum isn't a democracy. Just because you don't want to add something to your suggestion thread or it doesn't get approval on your polls, doesn't mean others aren't allowed to post their own thread regarding it. Participating in your thread isn't a dayz forum rule for suggesting weapons. Not that I agree with OP, but you can't clam everyone HAS to use your weapons thread. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) The forum isn't a democracy. Just because you don't want to add something to your suggestion thread or it doesn't get approval on your polls, doesn't mean others aren't allowed to post their own thread regarding it. Participating in your thread isn't a dayz forum rule for suggesting weapons. Not that I agree with OP, but you can't clam everyone HAS to use your weapons thread.You seem to like engaging in these arguments with me. Very well.I am trying to help the Devs by making one central post and combing the ideas of all community members. I am sifting through the pages currently writing down past buried suggestions to put on the list eventually.Am I claiming that everyone has to use the thread I made under the Community's account?I didn't, so quit putting fucking words in text that I did not type.Clearly I say "please post your suggestions" meaning I am asking simply they do so rather than cause more clutter in weapon threads.I am neither forcing anyone nor saying that it is a rule to post your weapon suggestions on the Community's Weapon thread.By the way buddy, I already had this conversation with you in another thread, clearly you failed to listen.I do not see that thread as mine because the community are the ones that built it. Without their suggestions that list would just be the base that I built back in February.I got the suggestion for polls from an old friend named - Karma -I got organization ideas from members like IrishroyI engaged in in-depth conversations with tons of members on this forum including Gews, Chaingunfighter, Damnyourdeadman, AP_Norris, and more.I gave those names as examples of me engaging with the community and striving to make the list what they want it to be, not what I want it to be.Why the constant argument Dale? This was never a problem before until recently.Why did you fail to listen to what I said the first time?In conclusion, people are able to post what ever the hell they want (with the risk of it being taken down if it is against the rules)Do I really care that these threads are posted? Somewhat yes because even though I may hate some of the weapon choices the devs are making, I still fully respect them and appreciate the hard work they put into this game so far, I still want to help in the way of centralizing one main thread for these suggestions.If people wanted their suggestions to easily be implemented on the thread to prevent me spending hours writing descriptions for all of these weapons, why don't people follow the templates I setup for each firearm? I could easily copy and paste it into the thread once they typed it up for their specific suggestions and private messaged it to me.Hope you stop these pointless arguments.God Bless! Edited October 24, 2014 by AlexeiStukov 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) If people do not want a centralized weapon thread then I will happily take it down Edited October 24, 2014 by AlexeiStukov Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted October 24, 2014 Currently taking note of what firearms i am recovering from the pages. I will post my list sometime tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Gews- 7443 Posted October 24, 2014 Pfft, people can make their own thread and ALSO post in the combined thread... how bout that. A single thread has more focus 'cos it forces people to reply and focuses the discussion. Rocket tried the mega-thread himself, people posted in both their own and his, no one had a real problem with it... http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/97659-consolidated-weaponsequipment-suggestions/ 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UltimateGentleman 355 Posted October 24, 2014 Historically, sniper rifles were made to be one shot kill rifles (in fact, most guns are built like that) Besides, being vulnerable and knowing that all you've accumulated can be wiped clean in an instant (through sudden attacks/snipers) is something that DayZ has had since the beginning. At the ranges we're talking about, guns like the SVD would work very well as sniper rifles, I don't think we need to be making weapons that are specifically developed to shoot more than a kilometer simply to have them.Sorry I worded that wrong. I don't have a problem with snipers being one shot kill(for a torso or head shot anyway) but a 50 cal sniper would be far too extreme they're designed to shoot through tanks we don't need them to kill people or zombies.Not to mention that they weigh like 15-20KG or something, they would have to make you get tired very very fast or it would just be ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) Pfft, people can make their own thread and ALSO post in the combined thread... how bout that. A single thread has more focus 'cos it forces people to reply and focuses the discussion. Rocket tried the mega-thread himself, people posted in both their own and his, no one had a real problem with it... http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/97659-consolidated-weaponsequipment-suggestions/That is what I am basically trying to say. People can make other threads to focus discussion on one specific weapon while the combined thread focuses discussion on a variety of weapons. I disagree when you say it forces people to reply and focus on the discussion. I have gone through the pages in the combined thread and found that there were many discussions present several timesPlus people always have the choice of participating in the current discussion or starting their own.I am only one human being and it is hard for me to account for hundreds of others on this forum that demand their suggestion on the thread. As I do not have the time to dedicate hours to a video game thread producing these descriptions.I wish people would follow the template and make their own descriptions for their suggested weapon so I could review them, change them around, anpa simply paste it into the thread along with credit. Edited October 24, 2014 by AlexeiStukov Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evaris 61 Posted October 24, 2014 As a suggestion, what about gang / criminal / survivalist / otherwise illegally produced firearms? Maybe something like the 9mm BSP? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a_ruttle 199 Posted October 24, 2014 Actually it is not senseless Evil, read the post again, go on go ahead. The post's purpose is to say post all your weapon suggestions in the future on the Community's List so that we can prevent the clutter of weapon threads. Read more carefully next time and think deeper. I did not say a single fucking thing about the M1 Carbine in that one post, however, you are correct that i made it clear in other threads because i watched as the community argued back and forth between it. Post them on your thread, where they won't be seen by as many people, righhht, we need a weapon suggestion subforum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a_ruttle 199 Posted October 24, 2014 As a suggestion, what about gang / criminal / survivalist / otherwise illegally produced firearms? Maybe something like the 9mm BSP? I was just about to make a post suggesting those, the UVF made a good few during the troubles, designed to use mags from the Sterling SMG mostly. As for another suggestion, http://www.nam.ac.uk/online-collection/detail.php?acc=1999-02-51-1 THIS, it has a tendency to cause rapid finger loss however. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) Post them on your thread, where they won't be seen by as many people, righhht, we need a weapon suggestion subforum Won't be seen by many people? That thread has over 45k views currently and is still growing, proving your logic wrong entirety (all you have to do is click the "spoiler" for each section and you will be able to read and see all the suggestions i have been able to add up there) And i will repeat myself again, i am currently sifting through the pages of the list to recover the lost/buried suggestions that never were talked about. I currently have a 1/2 page of weapon suggestions that have been buried and the person that suggested them (plus any other people that might of brought that specific weapon up in the past) You want to know why i haven't added any weapons recently? Its called priorities and posting suggestions for a video game is not one of mine. Family, Work, School, Friends, etc are what come first to me. I get to busy to produce descriptions for each individual weapon, which i still am urging people to create the descriptions themselves using the template that i use on the thread. I would then be able to check over, change if needed, paste into the thread, and give credit to them for their suggestion. We don't need a subforum, rather keep these separate threads up as it seems everyone supports the idea. And please stop with this bull shit of saying that its "My" thread. I have said countless of times, but i will go ahead and repeat myself i guess because some people do not listen.. I view this that thread as Community property. All i am here for is to take suggestions from them and put them on the thread with a detailed, logical explanation of why they should be added to Dayz Standalone and a brief history lesson on the firearm. I never will view that thread as mine because that just shows utter contradiction. Why would i name it "The Community's List Of..." if i claimed it was my list? Please read more carefully next time. Edited October 24, 2014 by AlexeiStukov Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) I was just about to make a post suggesting those, the UVF made a good few during the troubles, designed to use mags from the Sterling SMG mostly. As for another suggestion, http://www.nam.ac.uk/online-collection/detail.php?acc=1999-02-51-1 THIS, it has a tendency to cause rapid finger loss however. I am wanting to add craftable firearms to the list, however i am having difficulty with wording their descriptions. I have several craftable firearm suggestions from others and myself to post still. (Chechnyian Rebels made some pretty interesting firearm designs) Just a little writers block is all.. Edited October 24, 2014 by AlexeiStukov 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted October 24, 2014 As a suggestion, what about gang / criminal / survivalist / otherwise illegally produced firearms? Maybe something like the 9mm BSP? Noted. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted October 24, 2014 I was just about to make a post suggesting those, the UVF made a good few during the troubles, designed to use mags from the Sterling SMG mostly. As for another suggestion, http://www.nam.ac.uk/online-collection/detail.php?acc=1999-02-51-1 THIS, it has a tendency to cause rapid finger loss however. Wrote it down. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AP_Norris 1018 Posted October 24, 2014 Gold AKM would be good to test out a sort of one weapon per server gun.A sort of trophy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites