The antihop/exiting timers..

[InflatedLyric 39]

There is not enough cheese to go with all the whine in this thread. My ability to change servers has been hindered since the beginning of the SA. I hate server restarts, they force d/c me from a server when I would otherwise remain on the server happily collecting the spoils that are "too far" for others to run to because there is no auto-run for them to employ while they hop in the preferred fps lobby on their gaming console.

After a server restart, I can expect to see a partial server list with none of those servers even being an option to connect to. I must wait 5-10 mins just for the server list to fill out, then if I want to get back on the server that just restarted, I will have to refresh the list at least once it never shows up in the list the first time. Not only does this happen the majority of the time I am disconnected from a server, it happens when the game is first opened too.

I am reading all the discontent and I am smiling. How long have you had to deal with it? One gaming session, that was only an hour because you have a life and no one else does? However, suddenly the game is unplayable! I played a few hours yesterday, I must have no job and I certainly do not babysit my nephew, I ran into a server restart with the glitch I always have; I noticed absolutely no difference from the 300 second timer.

I am lead to believe it is working as intended, if there are this many people having issue with it in such a short period of time.

[mssing 34]

I love how ppl try to justify their cheating with nonsense reasons...i can see the rivers filling with tears...more threads like this please :D

where is the cheating you write about? you seem stupid, this is a thread about the added timers ^^ you know!

[synik4l 8]

edit: okay im going to edit this since people dont read my newer posts.

 

People dont seem to understand that we're in no way saying the timer is stupid. and that you shouldnt stand there for 30-60 seconds. We're merely saying that you should be able to see what is going on. See the timer. And cancel the timer if you want. and come back to shooting if you need to. In case randomly someone walked by u. or came into the same bush you were in. Or was tracking you for awhile(and you didnt even know he was there). and saw you lay down to exit. There's many cases. where this is not combat logging. But merely us wanting to know if were gonna get killed in that 30 seconds and be able to do something about it. I mean I could basically leave a game thinking im completely safe. and would still be fine. but instead im dying and have no clue about it. 

 

They could make it. where if you alt+f4 you sit there for 30. Or you can sit there for 30 and watch the screen. I dont understand why people dont get this?

[synik4l 8]

for one...LEAVE THE COAST

 

you all whine there is no safe spot.

 

I have logged out 6 times already to do other things and have ALWAYS returned where i was.....why?

 

nowhere near a town....out in the bush somewhere.

 

now i know it is possible someone stumbles upon you.. well guess what.  build a tent and go to sleep somewhere...someone might find you sleeping there.

 

the timer is there to combat stupid combat loggers and ghosters.

 

neither of the 2 then no need.

 

its funny how the ones that bitch about these things are usually the first to hit esc and try to get behind you.

 

 

1. im not on the coast.

2. I do log in bushes outside of the town 

2. its not about the timer itself. Its about the way it was implemented dumbshit.

Edited February 6, 2014 by synik4l

[dallas 5195]

edit: okay im going to edit this since people dont read my newer posts.

 

People dont seem to understand that we're in no way saying the timer is stupid. and that you shouldnt stand there for 30-60 seconds. We're merely saying that you should be able to see what is going on. See the timer. And cancel the timer if you want. and come back to shooting if you need to. In case randomly someone walked by u. or came into the same bush you were in. Or was tracking you for awhile(and you didnt even know he was there). and saw you lay down to exit. There's many cases. where this is not combat logging. But merely us wanting to know if were gonna get killed in that 30 seconds and be able to do something about it. I mean I could basically leave a game thinking im completely safe. and would still be fine. but instead im dying and have no clue about it. 

 

They could make it. where if you alt+f4 you sit there for 30. Or you can sit there for 30 and watch the screen. I dont understand why people dont get this?

^^Already been tried and tested and according to Rocket it failed.

 

I recommend that you find your safe log out site and then wait for 30 seconds, to secure the site, but also to make sure the Hive has updated and saved your log out location.

[whothehellishe 81]

where is the cheating you write about? you seem stupid, this is a thread about the added timers ^^ you know!

 

Sorry but it seems some people cannot apprehend server hopping, ghosting and combat logging is cheating, so there you go, i explained, and by the way did you even read the OP's post? He is whining about the whole things not specific to timers...whos stupid now bud?!

Edited February 6, 2014 by whothehellishe

[mssing 34]

Sorry but it seems some people cannot apprehend server hopping, ghosting and combat logging is cheating, so there you go, i explained, and by the way did you even read the OP's post? He is whining about the whole things not specific to timers...whos stupid now bud?!

actually. you seem to be ..read the topic; it states "The antihop/exiting timers" ..i can't read "cheating" anywhere, can you?

Edited February 6, 2014 by mssing

[FishGuts4Lunch 66]

Just went to a server i am a PRO DAY SERVER i don't play Night and my Crew Don't Play night as well... NOT ALL SERVERS SAY DAY24/7 or Night.... It has Happen to us already.... then when we do jump to next server We have to wait. Freaking 300 Seconds? so some one on the last server can Kill our Progress cause the System thought we was server Hopping? Needs fixing

TrueGiga,

All you have to do is take a look at the local in game time in the server list. If it say 03:22 you can be fairly confident you are going to spawn in the dark. If the server Time is 14:42 you can forget about having a cloak of darkness to shroud your movements. There is really no need to say whether of not it is a daytime server of not.

[napalmdog 71]

The timer idea is no deterrent to server hoppers. If you know waiting in one spot for 2 minutes will yield a gun, will players wait? Yes, yes they will. Server hoppers will have NOissue waiting 30 seconds. I hate the timer because I basically have to pay a penalty for server-hoppers and it's merely inconveniences the behavior. It's a sloppy solution, really...

Edited February 6, 2014 by Napalm Dog

[TrueGiga 10]

Now that i have played it 3 days ahhhhhh... Much worst not getting better......
My Friends: join up my server 
Me: OK
My Friends: Hey we just left the server too many forest trolls
Me: OK
My Friends: We Found a Other Server
Me: Im Locked out 300Sec
My Friends: ok We wait......
Me: Ok i am Joining up!
My Friends: We left cause you too to Long

WTF................................

[doctorbadsign 645]

You just have to use the same procedure when logging out as you do when you have a wee in the woods in real life.

[xRann 126]

Now that i have played it 3 days ahhhhhh... Much worst not getting better......

My Friends: join up my server 

Me: OK

My Friends: Hey we just left the server too many forest trolls

Me: OK

My Friends: We Found a Other Server

Me: Im Locked out 300Sec

My Friends: ok We wait......

Me: Ok i am Joining up!

My Friends: We left cause you too to Long

WTF................................

Your friends sound like class acts. You should get more friends like that. Everyone should.

 

But seriously, how about sort that shit out before you go joining a server? use ts, mumble, skype, telephone, radio, telegraph, or a freakin' can with a string in it and find a server, all join. Shit man, that's freakin' common sense.

[Ziggykong 33]

In the mod for a while they had the log out time when you hit esc. If that could be re-implemented it should be.

[xRann 126]

In the mod for a while they had the log out time when you hit esc. If that could be re-implemented it should be.

That will not stop people from using alt f4, same issue as the mod. People would still combat log. No good.

[TrueGiga 10]

lol at these guys in here its like they have a solution for every problem in the game... Guys the problem is not me nor my friends its the TIMER Cause you like   don't mean we have to like it... 

Edited February 6, 2014 by TrueGiga

[xRann 126]

lol at these guys in here its like they have a solution for ever problem in the game... Guys the problem is not me nor my friends its the TIMER Cause you like   don't mean we have to like it... 

So you want to be able to switch to server, after server, after server at your leisure? Correct?

[DarkwaveDomina 1099]

Personally I hope the devs make the server hopping timer more harsh, beyond the current maximum of five minutes.

The 30 second log-in timer doesn't bother me either, it only happens if you died or changed servers within thirty minutes.

[Gobbokirk 546]

So you want to be able to switch to server, after server, after server at your leisure? Correct?

How else would he and his friends get looted up in 20mins? Play as intended? The horror!!! :P

It's a small price to pay as long as it annoys hoppers and combat loggers.

I still don't get why those guys (Hoppers and CLs) don't just play wasteland or something if all they are after is full gear and PvP.

Ofcourse the other players in wasteland all have guns so that could be it :P

[deepfried 95]

actually. you seem to be ..read the topic; it states "The antihop/exiting timers" ..i can't read "cheating" anywhere, can you?

 

What are you a retard? why do you think those timers were introduced? to address exploits like combat logging, ghosting, and server hopping / loot farming.  I.e. cheating.

 

You can't have a meaningful discussion about the timers without referring to their purpose.

Edited February 6, 2014 by Continuity

[Mdogg2005 447]

All timers and systems in place are likely placeholder anyway.  I hope that eventually that 30 seconds you remain in game is something you have to watch and can cancel.  If you alt + f4 you should absolutely be vulnerable for 30 seconds, but to just log out?  Eh, not a deal breaker for me either but I'd prefer to be able to defend myself rather than sit there essentially AFK for 30 seconds.

 

Don't get me wrong I am all for stopping ghosters / combat loggers / serverhoppers just like the rest, but for me to have to risk dying after logging off just because server hopping fucks exist is pretty lame.

 

As I said I'm sure this will all get sorted out eventually but for right now it seems I could log off anywhere and risk dying while I'm not even able to do anything about it.  Oh yeah.  That zombie that was in the middle of the town that just saw you through several buildings is now clawing at you while you're offline because you decided to log out and it sprinted to you and shoved it in your ass while your pants were down for 30 seconds.

Edited February 6, 2014 by Mdogg2005

[whothehellishe 81]

All timers and systems in place are likely placeholder anyway.  I hope that eventually that 30 seconds you remain in game is something you have to watch and can cancel.  If you alt + f4 you should absolutely be vulnerable for 30 seconds, but to just log out?  Eh, not a deal breaker for me either but I'd prefer to be able to defend myself rather than sit there essentially AFK for 30 seconds.

 

Dude...they explained why this can be used as a ghosting combat logging exploit a million times already...

Edited February 6, 2014 by whothehellishe

[Mdogg2005 447]

Dude...they explained why this can be used as a ghosting combat logging exploit a million times already...

wtf are you on about kid?

[whothehellishe 81]

The point of number 2 defeats the purpose of the logout system. This was trialed during the closed testing and it was found to be inferior and undesirable even by those who proposed it.

We have implemented the favored system from the initial testing. The intention is to expand this. Not only is option 2 hard to implement, it deals very badly with side cases and is highly exploitable. It still allows people to "ghost" combat log.

The only time we might consider number 2 type scenario will be with prepared campsites (tent, etc...). We might try implementing it again then. But it is a lot of work for something that failed very badly in testing.

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/dayz/comments/1whzfy/30_second_logout_timer_in_next_build_confirmed_by/cf2at0s?context=3

 

now go away.

[mssing 34]

The timer idea is no deterrent to server hoppers. If you know waiting in one spot for 2 minutes will yield a gun, will players wait? Yes, yes they will. Server hoppers will have NOissue waiting 30 seconds. I hate the timer because I basically have to pay a penalty for server-hoppers and it's merely inconveniences the behavior. It's a sloppy solution, really...

no you dont ..ffs... you pay a penalty for "ghosting" players, the so called "hoppers" are at least EVERYONE of the other players! trust me. i have i think 6 servers up. not one of them has more than perhaps 1/300regulars. EVERYONE hops between servers. ANYONE stating other ways is simply lying. they ALL change servers ..a lot... ..for loot...

[Mdogg2005 447]

 

The point of number 2 defeats the purpose of the logout system. This was trialed during the closed testing and it was found to be inferior and undesirable even by those who proposed it.

We have implemented the favored system from the initial testing. The intention is to expand this. Not only is option 2 hard to implement, it deals very badly with side cases and is highly exploitable. It still allows people to "ghost" combat log.

The only time we might consider number 2 type scenario will be with prepared campsites (tent, etc...). We might try implementing it again then. But it is a lot of work for something that failed very badly in testing.

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/dayz/comments/1whzfy/30_second_logout_timer_in_next_build_confirmed_by/cf2at0s?context=3

 

now go away.

 

Being able to control your guy for the duration of the timer, and being able to interrupt the timer and defend yourself then continue the timer, are two very different things.  What I've been trying to suggest is let us click disconnect then start the 30 sec timer.  If we see trouble, we can stop the timer, defend ourselves, and then disconnect and commence the 30 sec logout period where can we look around holding alt, but can't move less we interrupt the timer again.

 

Telling someone to go away on a public forum. Lol.