UNDERWORLD 76 Posted March 17, 2014 I wouldn't trust anything TSAndrey says, he's been shilling for this game since last January. The hacking in DayZ is exactly the same as it is in ArmA 2. I base this on the programs I have written for both games, and on what I've seen other people do as well.I've only encountered possibly 1 hacker in the 80 odd hours ive played SA, compared to countless in the mod. I find screaming HACKER seems to be a convenient get out for people who are bad at the game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036 Posted March 17, 2014 Yes. Hackers are everywhere and seem to be targeting haters and people who make non-constructive posts. Flee!!! Flee while you can Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hezi2k 1 Posted March 17, 2014 i just went to electro with my friends to loot some food and gear and met this hacker ... he had automatic shotgun that dont need to be reload ... after 20 sec of endless bullets we all got died ... :( in this past two weeks the number of the hackers only increasing and this game became unplayable ... what can i say ... VAC failed ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enforcer1975 1111 Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) When BE finally has their list of 10000 hackers they will instaban them. Not enough of them caught yet so be patient. Edited March 17, 2014 by Enforcer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Munson_fry (DayZ) 312 Posted March 17, 2014 it took im 20 sec ??? those hackers get worse every day :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mosibfu 71 Posted March 17, 2014 well to the people that still think the anti cheat will save us.. i figured i would troll battleeye and see if they are aware and working on it.. they basically blame the game engine and say they already are quite effective.. i quote: Hi,We are constantly banning cheaters quite effectively, but of course we cannot fix the game engine. Therefore I ask you to also forward your concern to the game developers, so they become aware of the remaining security issues in the current engine.Regards,Bastian SuterBattlEye Innovations Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipemr 160 Posted March 17, 2014 well to the people that still think the anti cheat will save us.. i figured i would troll battleeye and see if they are aware and working on it.. they basically blame the game engine and say they already are quite effective.. i quote: Hi,We are constantly banning cheaters quite effectively, but of course we cannot fix the game engine. Therefore I ask you to also forward your concern to the game developers, so they become aware of the remaining security issues in the current engine.Regards,Bastian SuterBattlEye Innovations that's actually true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Advacit 2 Posted March 17, 2014 I too face hackers daily. if you can catch them coming, and they are cocky and get close, you can gun them down, and log out asap to save your gear. if you try to log out prior to killing them you are done for. standing and fighting is your only real option. I would get in close quarters since they can teleport in the open. I also encountered another hacker who essentially had an auto-shottie and infinite ammo who ran rampid on 5 people in a building firing for about 20 seconds solid with the shotgun... he was invisible as well. he later flew around the map (literally in the air) mowing all us down again on the coast with an infinite ammo m4. i'm not sure there is much to do vs this, other than pray you shoot him before you die. we did kill him once, was funny :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandusen 8 Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) I have a theory and I'd like to ask this question: When you've seen a cheater* have you been with a group, or solo? I play mostly solo and in about 100 hours I haven't seen a cheater*. Most of the videos of cheaters* that I've seen have involved groups. So, do the cheaters* just go after groups to get bigger kicks? *I'm not going to throw fake statistics around, but I'm willing to bet that most of the people using hacks are not actual hackers. Downloading someone else's script/code and using it to cheat doesn't make you a hacker, it makes you a cheater. To deebz1234's point above, I don't know why we keep feeding their egos by calling them hackers. I'll step off my soapbox for now.They should be called pussies! Cause that's exactly what they are.. people that failed too much in there life, so now they need god-modes to feel secure. And "Hacks" should be called diapers! Edited March 17, 2014 by Pandusen 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jayleann 143 Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) I have a question. Can hackers influence your own controls? Like hindering you to move properly on either side? There was a situation in elektro in one of the firestations, where a zombie was ground floor, I was middle floor, a guy I wasn't aware of was upper floor. And I got hit somehow, but couldn't see where it was coming from. So my first reaction was running upstairs, saw that guy loading his gun and again run downward (I'm not the killer type, rather the runaway type) and suddenly I was not able to move anymore. Got hit again, and was then able to flee. The zombie didn't move at all, was stuck into the stairs. Strange situation. Is this desync or hacking? °-° Edited March 17, 2014 by jayleann Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipemr 160 Posted March 17, 2014 I have a question. Can hackers influence your own controls? Like hindering you to move properly on either side? There was a situation in elektro in one of the firestations, where a zombie was ground floor, I was middle floor, a guy I wasn't aware of was upper floor. And I got hit somehow, but couldn't see where it was coming from. So my first reaction was running upstairs, saw that guy loading his gun and again run downward (I'm not the killer type, rather the runaway type) and suddenly I was not able to move anymore. Got hit again, and was then able to flee. The zombie didn't move at all, was stuck into the stairs. Strange situation. Is this desync or hacking? °-° in the mod they could controll your character for good, there's even a frankie's video showing that happening. In the game though, i dunno. But with all the backdoors this game has, i actually believe there's way to controll/tilt you controls so you cant move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
806dan 4 Posted March 17, 2014 Well I should start by saying that I like this game, I like it a lot, and I don't mind all the issues in it.I understand it's an alpha and I do understand all the bugs, glitches, sync problems, lag etc etc...died a lot of times because of that and I don't mind it. BUT I hate hackers and the fact that it so damn easy to hack the game now, I see more and more hackers every day.And NO there was no lag/desync ... it was pure hack, as they are teleporting shooting through walls and putting stupid songs at the same time. This is an online game, hacking should not be a problem as you can always check the game client and scan it for scripts.Also detecting the speed of each player in game is an easy thing to get and ban them as soon as they use the hack. Nothing makes you stop playing a game more than hackers.and NO, I wasn't playing on private server etc, always on servers like DayZ UK 1-10 Hosted by ...... and with high population 30+ Please guys don't rush it on putting cars and more guns, just focus on the important things of the game, like this one(easy hacking), physics, desyncs, server stability, fps optimisations and then you can add content in the game. And I'm saying that is easy because I see more and more hackers and also some of them are some damn kids no more than 12 yeas old.. what the hell??? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin 2 Posted March 17, 2014 Apparently BattlEye bans people in waves. So next patch there should be a lot less hackers, but a shit ton of whine forums on here "WHY DID I GET BANNED QQQQQQ".... Idiots.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GpB311 236 Posted March 17, 2014 There will always be hackers just like there will always be people who dont notice that there are already countless threads like this posted on here. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaughingJack (DayZ) 767 Posted March 17, 2014 While I think you are right in most of the things you said, there is one point, that I have (sadly) argue about: This is an online game, hacking should not be a problem as you can always check the game client and scan it for scripts.Also detecting the speed of each player in game is an easy thing to get and ban them as soon as they use the hack. In every online game were cheaters. In every single one. Not even Blizzard could keep WoW clean and they were pumping money like crazy into securing the system afaik. And don't get me started on FPS like CS, CoD, BF...the more people play the more idiots cheat. Sad but true. Either they just want to annoy people and destroy their game experience because...well I don't know for hwatever reason, or they are just not good enough and search an unfair advantage because they desperately need to "win" (you can't win dayZ...but you know what I mean), because...well same as before. Every normal player hates cheater and thinks of them as the cancer of the community, and why not? But, well, sometimes you just have to wait and hope. As lenin said - BE bans in waves, hopefully a banstorm is coming through. (I never thought I would be able to quote lenin say something like that O.o) And I'm saying that is easy because I see more and more hackers and also some of them are some damn kids no more than 12 yeas old.. what the hell??? Only from my experience: The more mature a player is the less he is likely to cheat. So 99% of cheaters are spoiled brats or teenage idiot-trolls. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
806dan 4 Posted March 17, 2014 There will always be hackers just like there will always be people who dont notice that there are already countless threads like this posted on here. Sure there are other posts, I've searched some of them, and they all where like" I think I was hacked" people arguing about desync.I just had to say this, as I gave my money and time to support the development for this game, everyone's opinion should count, does it matters if I say my opinion in general discussion? I'm not spamming in bug report or anything like that. Hacking is a big issue and it should be a top priority issue to fix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ValorJTG 2 Posted March 17, 2014 There will always be someone who will find a way to break the rules, you can't stop that, you can only control it to the best of your ability. Now I do agree that the dev's should focus on fixing bugs rather then adding content, but at the same time, if they fix all the bugs in the game at it's current state, once they add more content, the new stuff will have bugs. So you can't really ask them to fix the bugs first because each time they add something new, chances are that there will be a new bug. All they can do is try there best, and no offence, but most people will rather have new guns and cars and stuff, then fix a few bugs because one guy is complaining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin 2 Posted March 17, 2014 Hacking is a big issue and it should be a top priority issue to fix. Just as Jack said, (Never did I think I could have quoted the Joker :P) there will be hackers in EVERY single online game you will EVER play. Hell even War Hawk on the PS3 had hackers (Good times with that game). But anyways, you shouldn't feel cheated by buying this game. IT IS NOT A FINISHED PRODUCT. They even told you that. It's best to just enjoy the game even with it's faults. That's how I play, and it's damn fun even with the stupid teenage hackers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
806dan 4 Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) In every online game were cheaters. In every single one. Not even Blizzard could keep WoW clean and they were pumping money like crazy into securing the system afaik. And don't get me started on FPS like CS, CoD, BF...the more people play the more idiots cheat. Sad but true. Either they just want to annoy people and destroy their game experience because...well I don't know for hwatever reason, or they are just not good enough and search an unfair advantage because they desperately need to "win" (you can't win dayZ...but you know what I mean), because...well same as before. I know, and yes you are 100% right, the thing is that in those games if you get killed by a stupid hacker you have nothing to lose, but here...... here you lose everything... you can lose hours of gameplay in a second and because of this type of gameplay hacking is a big issue.And it's ok with me if BE will ban the idiots in waves, if I think about it, I think is even better, let the idiots try their hacks and then ban all of them, it would have been nice if the steam account was blocked also ... oh.. that would be wonderful. Edited March 17, 2014 by Boschet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrLoK 16182 Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) Hacking is a big issue and it should be a top priority issue to fix. Hello there It is and it is. Rgds LoK EDIT: to be clear it is high on the devs list. Edited March 17, 2014 by orlok 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
806dan 4 Posted March 17, 2014 Players before purchase know that if you purchase the game before it is launched you wont have the same gaming experience playing DayZ, leads the my first "WTF ARE YOU A COMPLETE RETARD" Players have yet to understand what it means that if you pre-purchase the game before the launch you wont get the same experience when the game is launched, I totally understand that is in alpha and I do know what that means, and I do know that this will be fixed, as it is an alpha and the community helps the development team, I think I din't do anything wrong posting about hacks, I'm not one of those that request content features etc... I've posted about the fact that I get to meet more and more hackers and this is an issue, right? why do you all get so jumpy and " oh... it's an alpha, why did you both the game?" As I said before I don't mind any kind of other issue in the game, at this point is normal to have issues even with hacking, but the problem I've told you about is that the number of hackers is increasing and it seems to be very easy to hack the game at this point. Hello there It is and it is. Rgds LoK EDIT: to be clear it is high on the devs list.Very appreciated! Many thanks for the info. and keep up the good work! . love the game! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
River Lizard 47 Posted March 17, 2014 You go to one video site (won't name it) and do a search for this "Dayz Standalone Cheat" and see what comes up. It's unbelievable just how open they are with the cheat programs. But I don't think I've ever been in a game that didn't have hackers. The worst ones were "god mode" w/aimbot. Was playing America's Army and there was a guy who could pulled the pin on a grenade as the round was ending and when everyone spawned the grenade would go off before people could run....you couldn't even log off because you didn't have time for that option. He killed the group 7 times before the admin could shut the server down. The difference between games like AA and Standalone is, AA gave you weapons from the start unlike Standalone when you have to find them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrLoK 16182 Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) Don't bother with threads like these let's start from 0 (The game is in alpha stage or beta) Players before purchase know that if you purchase the game before it is launched you wont have the same gaming experience playing DayZ, leads the my first "WTF ARE YOU A COMPLETE RETARD" Players have yet to understand what it means that if you pre-purchase the game before the launch you wont get the same experience when the game is launched, They farm items kill people, Kill people who actually want to try and test the game. I am not a racist but mostly europeans Kill people, Serbians, french, brazil, etc those type of fucktards don't know any english and belive the game is ready to play. They wont let anyone who actually want to help DayZ make this a better game, play the game. DayZ don't seem to understand that and keeps the game up and purchaseable for fucktards, this game wont ever be launched... Morons will interfere with the game development becuase they shoot those who want to test it and help DayZ. Leads to "Cheat-faggots" cheaters are the same they belive the game is fully working and that they need to get to the top and try to be a famous dayZ player by cheating. It wont ever stop.Hello there Alternative accounts and this kind of attitude really dont fly with us. Banned Take this post as a "how NOT to" post. Rdgs LoK Edited March 17, 2014 by orlok 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin 2 Posted March 17, 2014 Hello there Alternative accounts and this kind of attitude really dont fly with us. Banned Take this post as a "how NOT to" post. Rdgs LoKGood to see (moderator is it?) taking action against malicious people...Back to discussion. People can get hacks very easily. Hell they can even pay for them, which is stupid because when they get their account banned, they just lost $30 for DayZ and another $20 for the average paid hacks. That's enough for me to laugh at them, and you should too because it'll make you feel better and not be mad at the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
806dan 4 Posted March 18, 2014 Back to discussion. People can get hacks very easily. Hell they can even pay for them, which is stupid because when they get their account banned, they just lost $30 for DayZ and another $20 for the average paid hacks. That's enough for me to laugh at them, and you should too because it'll make you feel better and not be mad at the game.That makes me happy indeed. hopefully this will happen soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites