Guns I Dont / Want To See In The Game

[jamoy1993 9]

First of il start with a list of guns I DONT want to see in the game:

 

DMR:

 

Why:

 

Its the most overused, tree camping, bambi sniping, lame ass weapon ever. It scares bambi's away from bases and stuff as the unskilled user plink's 20 rounds of 762 lead in their direction as they near the bases. Just stupid and should not be included.

 

Barrett and AS-50

 

Why:

 

Its just as bad as the DMR, except its insta-bone-break-death. And it tends to blow up vehicles too. It would be highly unrealistic to find these guns anyways as they aren't as common in the army as one may think.

 

General Purpose Machine-guns:

 

Nothing against them really, Except that in a survival situation you would almost definitely trade a 12 kg lump of steel for a nice light m4, or other rifle. M249 is even a better solution but not by a long shot at 10 kg.

 

SCAR Series:

 

Nothing against them. But i do know the USMC uses these guns but i have never seen them using them on any media footage. Besides id be happy with a bunch of 416's and m4's

 

 

Now its on to the weapons I DO WANT to see in the game.

 

I Will split this into 3 catagorys. Common (Or Civil), Military and Rare.

 

COMMON:

 

Pistols:

 

Makarov:

 

 

The Makarov was made by the masses during the cold war, its cheap, its reliable. And a descent self defense weapon for people who cant afford much. It will be a good weapon to find in the larger cities. Ammunition is fairly widespread in the ex-soviet bloc countries and is still made.

 

Rugger MKIII / Similar Model

 

 

This would be a nice handgun to pair with the 10/22 from rugger, cheap and commonly used in the sporting community.

 

Shotguns:

 

CZ 720

 

 

 

This shotgun is made by CZ, I dont know if its widely found but id assume it would look the part to be a civilian weapon in-game. Could fare well as being one of the rarer civilian weapons.

 

Rifles:

SMLE MKIII

 

 

This will make a nice rare find in some farm houses. Ammunition would be rare. Could be modified by default to accept the PSU Scope.

 

CZ 550

 

 

Well it does seem to be in the lore of the area, it definitely fits in with being a civilian gun.

 

The gun could be compatible with the 8x scope already found in game.

 

Hi-Point .45 and 9x19mm Carbine

 

 

This will be a really cool weapon to have, Compatible with some attachments from the M4 currently in the game such as ACOG and Red dots. This could be one of the most sought after weapons in civilian areas.

 

Im sure this gun comes as a pistol kit as well. So you could dismantle the attachments and reduce it to being a pistol.

 

MILITARY:

 

Pistols:

 

Glock 17:

 

 

Its just got to be in here, more or less it should be a police weapon. Found in police stations. It is used by many police forces and military organisations around the world. Its tried and tested. It has to be in the game!

 

CZ-75

 

 

This weapon is really popular in the ex soviet block. Its commonly used by police forces as-well as some military organisations. Its beginning to find its way into the US and is becoming popular there too. This must be in the game!

 

SIG SAUER P226

 

This is also a really popular weapon throughout the world. It is expensive, so id imagine if it were to be in the game it would be rare.

 

Foot Note: Most of these pistols are capable of supporting attachments. Such as Suppressors and under barrel flashlights. Some even support extended magazines.

 

SMG's

 

MP5A6 And MP5 SD6

 

Used all around the world. Even in Russia, Id love for this to be in the game. Needs to include an optics rail though, the iron sights are horrible if they are the closed version.

 

PP-2000

 

 

This weapon is rare and is only used officially in Russia. An idea i have for this smg, is that its as compact as a pistol and can fit into a 4 block space with its stock folded. Ideally a sought after smg. Compatible with most RIS rail attachments.

 

Rifles

 

AK Series (47 and 74 Possibly some rarer 100 series ak's)

 

 

No brainer, They are everywhere. Probably more than the zombies at this point!

 

TRG-42

 

 

Seems fitting that these could be found rarely in police stations. Used allot in the EU, Ammo should be rare. Rifle even rarer.

 

SV-98

 

 

Feels like it should be in here.

 

SVD

 

 

Classic rifle, id love to see this in the game. Possibly a super rare weapon in barracks, or even houses. Its up for speculation.

 

M24

 

 

Fairly Standard, Should Typically be rare. I like the weapon but im not fussed if its in or not.

 

FN FAL

 

 

Fairly uncomon. To give better use to the 7.62 round. Will make a good mid ranged rifle.

 

Bushmaster ACR:

 

 

Nice weapon, it will make a nice rare find.

 

 

Rare: Purely My preference

 

Pistols:

 

TT-33:

 

 

This would be an awesome find. Capable of penetrating light body armor. It will be definitely worth keeping. Can be found in any building due to its rarity. And probability that its someones keepsake.

 

Glock 18C

 

 

 

Wouldn't you want a bad-ass glock like this in game? Me Too!. Of course it wont come with all the attachments.

 

SMG:

 

PPSh-41

 

 

 

The image is enough. A smg on steroids. This will make anyone duck their heads.

 

Kedr-PP91 KLIN

 

 

This fuggly little guy fires at around 1000 rpm. Its the size of a standard pistol with its buttstock collapsed. Possibly another rare smg sought after for its compactness. it fires the common 9x18mm for the makarov. Giving more use to the round.

 

HK MP5K

 

Similar to the above, sought after for compactness and firepower. Can use most mp5 attachments for sights and silencers.

 

Rifles:

 

AN-94 ABAKAN

 

 

This rifle is rare as it uses standard ak74 magazines and 5.45x39mm rounds. But also it has a two round burst at 1200 rpm. Effectively putting two rounds on exactly where you were aiming. Of course it will come with full auto too!

 

AK-12

 

 

Just because.

 

HK 416 - HK 417

 

 

I just like these rifles, and perhaps they could be better than the m4's? Who knows!

 

AI AWM

 

 

The ultimate bolt action of the game, it should be incredibly rare. Found in all houses due to some people using it as an target shooting rifle for extreme ranges. But more commonly found in army bases.

 

ORSIS t-5000

 

 

Just looks like it should be rare. Looks kinda lightweight and compact. A pro to this rifle.

 

 

As a footnote to the rare section, it would be essential that these weapons spawn with at least one magazine. Otherwise it would be utterly pointless in finding the weapon if it didn't have a magazine. On the other hand some weapons can use magazines from others such as the mp5k can use MP5 magazines and the AN-94 can use ak mags.

 

Now im open to discussion and input is apreciated. If you have nothing constructive to post, for example ("ZOMG DMRS ARE ZE B3ST U CANT TAKE THEM OUT!") then you can just jog on. 

Edited December 28, 2013 by jamoy1993

[ryzoh 44]

no and no and no

 

its ok that the game is on russian but its in possible to find this many weapon on a after apocalypse world

[jamoy1993 9]

no and no and no

 

its ok that the game is on russian but its in possible to find this many weapon on a after apocalypse world

So what were the soldiers on the army base doing before the apocalypse? Playing with each others willys? What were the farmers doing before the apocalypse? throwing stones at wolfs to keep them away from their live stock? Oh and the policemen? I guess they were just chillin at dunkin donuts all day long!

Edited December 28, 2013 by jamoy1993

[Khad (DayZ) 293]

 

 

HK 416 - HK 417

 

 

I just like these rifles, and perhaps they could be better than the m4's? Who knows!

 

This is a Sturmkarabiner. It Karabines Sturm. Sure it will be better! òÓ

 

But to be honest, I don't like the idea of having all the weapons from all over the world laying around in Chernorussia. 

[27 others 102]

i dont think this thread will change the developers ideas. im not saying i disagree with your choice of weapons, i just think since this is a fun aspect of the job (choosing weapons), the devs will do it how THEY like.

 

 

still, the weapons i would want to see in this game: 

 

- M24

- some handgun with a silencer

Edited December 28, 2013 by 27 others

[Procrastinator 4 Hire 0]

Nice ideas. I would love to see these weapons be added.

Edited December 28, 2013 by Procrastinator 4 Hire

[hrdrok 183]

I wouldn't exclude any weapons at all. Just make them really, really rare. As a side note. SMG's would be tough to justify using over any other weapon. Unless you can find the ammo to support their high RoF.

 

EDIT: Also there are gun collectors all over the world. Museums would also house a couple rare weapons as well. 

Edited December 28, 2013 by hrdrok

[Procrastinator 4 Hire 0]

no and no and no

 

its ok that the game is on russian but its in possible to find this many weapon on a after apocalypse world

 

I don't see why you couldn't find this many weapons after the zombie apocalypse. I don't think all the weapons would just disappear into thin air... Of course some of them might have been used by the army to fight off zombies but most of the weapons should still be around.

[jamoy1993 9]

This is a Sturmkarabiner. It Karabines Sturm. Sure it will be better! òÓ

 

But to be honest, I don't like the idea of having all the weapons from all over the world laying around in Chernorussia. 

If you take a look at the rarity... That should give you an idea. Remember realisticaly there will be rich hunters, and weapons collectors living here. 

[ratiasu@hotmail.co.jp 122]

I want an MG42, PKP, DMR, SVU and possibly m14 (which would be convertable to DMR anyway (extended barrel, bipod, scope)). No guns are taboo for me.

[jamoy1993 9]

I want an MG42, PKP, DMR, SVU and possibly m14 (which would be convertable to DMR anyway (extended barrel, bipod, scope)). No guns are taboo for me.

I thought this through for a few hours, what weapons could be found here, most of them are Russian you see. Im not just choosing random weapons. I took into mind that some weapons could possibly be imported or illegally obtained within the world of Chernarus.

[Etherimp 1323]

Military grade sniper rifles such as the AWM should be extremely rare (think Satchel Charge/Night Vision/GPS rare), while handguns, shotguns, and hunting rifles should be common as hell. Assault Rifles should be accessible but only in military/police areas, and based on the area they should mostly be AK variants. Currently it's possible to find an M4A1 in schools, which simply doesn't make sense.

 

I never liked the DMR simply for the fact that it was the only sniper rifle with a scope that you could use night vision with. Either all scopes should be compatible with NVG's, or NONE... Or possibly only Assault Rifle, while Sniper Rifles have no NVG. This way, if you want to engage someone at night you actually have to be within ~200 meters, rather than laying in a treeline 800 meters away and taking pot shots into populated areas at night.

[Shaun of the Dead 36]

For me you started off well, but then you went stupid. I think Dayz shouldn't be so focused on guns as to have 32 different varieties. It should be focused on survival. I'd like to see the guns being basic civilian weapons. This would be far more immersive for me personally. 

 

Edit: As an after thought, I'd like it if guns would spawn in damaged and you had to repair them by finding new parts or salvaging to get them into working order. Basically I want Dayz to be less reliant on guns.

Edited December 28, 2013 by Shaun of the Dead

[DemonGroover 8836]

Makarov, CZs and AKs are all i want and i'll be happy

[Konna 149]

I'd love to see a bigger variation of plain hunting rifles instead of military grade ones.

[phoboss 224]

I agree with you on most weapons. Dmr ans as50 are definitely taboo. I think all semi auto or one shot kill long range rifles should be out of the game. To overpowered and to easy to use.

MGs is a hard one because I think it would be fun to mount them on a window in the new cherno 12 story's and do some nice suppression fire. But I do agree that in a zombie apocalypse where you have to carry food and water and medic supplies probably no one would carry around a 12kg gun. So for these to make sense we need a weight system in the game first.

I also agree that every weapon should spawn with at least one magazine of ammo. Smg maybe even 2. With the amount of different weapons you could not pick up every type of ammo you find and then hope to find the gun, or vice versa.

[Aussie Bogan 350]

I would like to see your reaction if they say No....

 

Edited December 28, 2013 by Aussie Bogan

[James MacDonald 14]

Oh and the policemen? I guess they were just chillin at dunkin donuts all day long!

Police don't have guns where I live, only the task force who's kinda like SWAT have guns.

[Bakercompany86 347]

I don't see a single problem with any of the weapons suggested.  Except you say don't include a DMR, when an FN FAL is similar.  20 Rounds of 7.62 on a weapon that can support optics will be pretty much the same in game.  Although I honestly would love at least one 20-round 7.62 weapon.  I was thinking of the M14 honestly.  Although there could most definitely be both, I have zero problem with that.

 

This looks to be a relatively poor area of Russia judging by the houses.  So finding the upper tier weapons would have to be extremely rare indeed.  They wouldn't have to be limited to military bases.  Who's to say that someone didn't find one, only to starve to death in a remote town somewhere?  Just as long as the spawn rates are appropriate compared to the power of the weapon.  Also the more ammunition types in the game, the better.

 

I love the Glock, but with the other 9mm options in the game I'd much rather see a G22 .40 cal.  Yet another different ammunition type.  Plus over 70% of law enforcement in America carry the G22 (to my knowledge), so I'm sure the weapon would be abundant in a country much closer to Austria.  But either way I'd be happy with any Glock in the game. 

 

I don't disagree with any of these weapon choices.  As easy as it is to die in this game, nobody is safe regardless of weaponry.  I support the semi-auto or bolt action choices more than the full auto.  But i'm okay with a few full-auto options in the game.

 

The only weapon I don't see fitting is the ACR.  It's not a very well circulated weapon currently (to my knowledge) so finding one in a super poor area of Russia may not by very realistic.

 

 

EDIT:  I think to NOT include the AK-74/47 or AN-94 would be a crime.  Being that Russia is their country of origin and the weapons are VERY abundant.  Obviously the AN-94 should be super rare, but should definitely exist.

Edited December 28, 2013 by Bakercompany86

[SalamanderAnder (DayZ) 1747]

Hates on OP military weapons... Proceeds to list tons of OP CoD military weapons. LOL!

[skou4 2]

I would really like to see a lot of different hunting rifles. It would be common in this kind of area with lots of woods for people to go hunting and most people don't have the same rifle. So make a lot of different models that just uses the 7.62mm ammo and some that uses other ammunition.

 

I would rather see this then a million different military grade weapons.... 

[ratiasu@hotmail.co.jp 122]

I thought this through for a few hours, what weapons could be found here, most of them are Russian you see. Im not just choosing random weapons. I took into mind that some weapons could possibly be imported or illegally obtained within the world of Chernarus.

All of those are available in that area of Europe (Czech Republic) except for the m14, hence why I said maybe. The MG42 was widely distributed throughout the continent, and a lot of countries kept using the ones they could get their hands on for decades. After the war a lot of countries, mostly Yugoslavia produced it en masse, too. DMR doesn't mean it has to be the one we had in the mod. Could be a Russian variant for all I care, as long as it's 7.62 and has a similar rate of fire. Basically any battle rifle that has a scope could fit this role, loosely. Also: Rocket has said he doesn't want to stick to Soviet/Russian weapons because he wants to use the same arsenal on other maps, too.

 

As for LMG's being useless in a zombie apocalypse and no one wanting to lug around 12KG's: That's the trade-off of it all, along with less accuracy unless prone. If you want to use a 7.62 MG you'll have to go prone or use an object for support, which means a lot more preparation than what mostly happens in an encounter in DayZ, tbh. Once cars are implemented, I imagine them being very useful for ambushes on roads.

Edited December 28, 2013 by Ratiasu

[onebadbasterd 59]

Wow...Cries about the DMR and AS-50 , shows 5+ rifles that he wants to see in-game...

 

 

Anyone see how much of a fucktard he is already?

[ratiasu@hotmail.co.jp 122]

Wow...Cries about the DMR and AS-50 , shows 5+ rifles that he wants to see in-game...

 

 

Anyone see how much of a fucktard he is already?

Not a fucktard. Biased? Yes, but we're all human. I don't have any problems with AS50's either, as they're a lot less deadly than DMR's, anyway. Never got the hate for that gun, even if it wasn't very believable. The inability to manage the total amount of weapons was what was wrong with the mod when it comes to powerful guns, tbh.

Edited December 28, 2013 by Ratiasu

[jamoy1993 9]

I would like to see your reaction if they say No....

 

 

it will be much more gruesome for them....