Ragstorm88 8 Posted October 19, 2013 What settings make it easier to spot people that are like running in a forest or hiding inside a bush i guess first thing to change would be shadows:off ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beavis_5000 111 Posted October 19, 2013 I think they say low settings are better. I havnt experiemented with it so im not sure. If you find anything out let me know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elf cakes 559 Posted October 19, 2013 come on man, why do people use exploits like this to get one up on other players? lowering your graphics to have a gameplay advantage over other players is pretty pathetic 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beavis_5000 111 Posted October 19, 2013 come on man, why do people use exploits like this to get one up on other players? lowering your graphics to have a gameplay advantage over other players is pretty pathetic Not really. Its a well known, easy to use exploit that you are at a disadvantage if you dont use because everyone else is using it. If your in the woods you would be stupid not to use it. If you dont everyone will be able to see you while you cant see them. Im not one to agree with exploits that give players an adantage but imo this one is fair game. Too well known, too easy to use and too many other people use it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NagsterTheGangster 388 Posted October 19, 2013 Maybe thats the equality in somebody having a slow system that cant run high graphics. So they see you further but you have better fps/connection etc. Now that its used its just cheap if you have a good Operating System. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OfficerRaymond 2064 Posted October 19, 2013 Not really. Its a well known, easy to use exploit that you are at a disadvantage if you dont use because everyone else is using it. If your in the woods you would be stupid not to use it. If you dont everyone will be able to see you while you cant see them. Im not one to agree with exploits that give players an adantage but imo this one is fair game. Too well known, too easy to use and too many other people use it.Basically in this post, you're condoning the use of exploits for the plain fact of that they make the game easier. Your reasoning? "But... but... but... that 15 year old is doing it. I'm gonna be a douchebag and use it too!" You're stupid to use it. Setting your graphics to a lower setting to have an advantage over other people is douchebaggery plain and simple. The only reason settings should be low, is to make the game playable for yourself. Just because everyone does it, doesn't mean you should. You know what that's called? It's called being a sell-out. If everyone else was hacking, would you hack too? Anyone that answers yes, shouldn't be calling themselves a 'gamer'. Don't sit here all high and mighty taking the 'high road' saying you don't agree with exploiting. You pretty much just told someone to exploit the game. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C0okieH 156 Posted October 19, 2013 Sounds like a waste of time I stay hidden and normally see players before they see me, not always though sometimes I get shot in the back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beavis_5000 111 Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) Basically in this post, you're condoning the use of exploits for the plain fact of that they make the game easier. Your reasoning? "But... but... but... that 15 year old is doing it. I'm gonna be a douchebag and use it too!" You're stupid to use it. Setting your graphics to a lower setting to have an advantage over other people is douchebaggery plain and simple. The only reason settings should be low, is to make the game playable for yourself. Just because everyone does it, doesn't mean you should. You know what that's called? It's called being a sell-out. If everyone else was hacking, would you hack too? Anyone that answers yes, shouldn't be calling themselves a 'gamer'. Don't sit here all high and mighty taking the 'high road' saying you don't agree with exploiting. You pretty much just told someone to exploit the game. I understand what your saying. My reasoning tho is why is it fair for people who have no choice but to play on low settings to see everyone in the woods when no one else can see them? People who have to play on low settings have really been granted a blessing in disquise. I play on high settings just to have the better graphics but I wouldnt be upset if I had no choice but to play on low just for this reason. The smart move would be to put my settings on low. I dont think its fair to say that people who have to play on low settings can have this advantage (even tho they have no choice) but then say its unfair for someone else to have that same advantage just because they can run on higher settings. Its like saying the person with the better PC has to put themselves at a disadvantage. Edited October 19, 2013 by electricfuneral Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SFRGaming 718 Posted October 19, 2013 This is what needs to be fixed in Standalone. I'll be so glad when Dean makes some of these settings unchangeable. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dekkymane 145 Posted October 19, 2013 Agreed. In JackFrags interview of Dean Hall he said he will make it so changing settings won't give any advantage. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h3l1x 327 Posted October 19, 2013 blah blah snip Its like saying the person with the better PC has to put themselves at a disadvantage. Wrong. Have you ever played dayz on an older pc? Having like 10-15fps with constant graphic lag/tearing during combat? Imagine yourself in that position fighting someone who gets 60fps. You consider that fair, but you find low settings unfair? Quite hypocritical. Yes maybe the other guy can spot you easier than you can spot him, but he has multiple other disadvantages compared to you. I'm playing on a core2duo system, and have all settings cranked up to high. Only thing I got disabled are shadows because it would crash every 15-20 minutes. Dayz has some wonderful scenery, and playing on purpose on low settings just to have an advantage is not only idiotic -as you miss this scenery and the immersion- but also a very wrong approach to this game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beavis_5000 111 Posted October 19, 2013 Wrong. Have you ever played dayz on an older pc? Having like 10-15fps with constant graphic lag/tearing during combat? Imagine yourself in that position fighting someone who gets 60fps. You consider that fair, but you find low settings unfair? Quite hypocritical. Yes maybe the other guy can spot you easier than you can spot him, but he has multiple other disadvantages compared to you.I'm playing on a core2duo system, and have all settings cranked up to high. Only thing I got disabled are shadows because it would crash every 15-20 minutes. Dayz has some wonderful scenery, and playing on purpose on low settings just to have an advantage is not only idiotic -as you miss this scenery and the immersion- but also a very wrong approach to this game. If there playing on a PC that can run smooth on low settings with no lag and etc then they would have a huge advantage. If they are on a PC that lags no matter what of course they will be at a disadvantage no matter what due to low FPS and lag. So yes it is like saying people playing on better PC's cant have this advantage but others can. If you want to choose grahics over the smarter setting then do so. I go with graphics but I wouldnt think less of anyone who went with a smarter setting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diggydug (DayZ) 331 Posted October 19, 2013 While I don't support doing this so you can gain a cheap edge in PvP, I find it does help to keep the grass and foliage rendered at a small distance. This helps you see loot that may be on the ground and you can imagine how well you're hiding on a hill when someone is X meters away. To me, there's really no noticeable difference other than that, with the settings. People stand out in most environments, unless they have proper camo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beavis_5000 111 Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) While I don't support doing this so you can gain a cheap edge in PvP, I find it does help to keep the grass and foliage rendered at a small distance. This helps you see loot that may be on the ground and you can imagine how well you're hiding on a hill when someone is X meters away. To me, there's really no noticeable difference other than that, with the settings. People stand out in most environments, unless they have proper camo. I wouldnt even call it cheap because I would say a large portion of the communty run there settings on low because the have to but yet there PC's are still good enough to run the game smooth on low settings. To me this makes it fair game. Its like saying its ok for people who have a PC that cant run on high settings, but is still good enough to run smooth on low, to have this advantage but its not ok for everyone else. I read somewhere that someoneuses it to help find loot at heli crash sites. Edited October 19, 2013 by electricfuneral Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diggydug (DayZ) 331 Posted October 19, 2013 I said I didn't support him doing this for the sake of getting that cheap edge in PvP. I also said I personally don't notice a significant difference other than changing how far away grass and foliage renders because people stand out in DayZ unless they're in camo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aussiebobby 82 Posted October 20, 2013 come on man, why do people use exploits like this to get one up on other players? lowering your graphics to have a gameplay advantage over other players is pretty patheticNot patching the known exploit I find equally pathetic.But you got to look after those with the 10yld pc don't we I wouldnt even call it cheap because I would say a large portion of the communty run there settings on low because the have to but yet there PC's are still good enough to run the game smooth on low settings. To me this makes it fair game. Its like saying its ok for people who have a PC that cant run on high settings, but is still good enough to run smooth on low, to have this advantage but its not ok for everyone else. I read somewhere that someoneuses it to help find loot at heli crash sites.You dont need to shoot all the Zeds to find out what is at the heli sites.Just stand back 100+ meters and look through your binoculars or scope and see everything the crash site has to offer without going near it. Same for your tents,cars,heli,ect.You think you are hiding them or your self in the trees? On low there are no trees or grass but you and your gear are still there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SalamanderAnder (DayZ) 1747 Posted October 20, 2013 This thread disgusts me. I'll make sure to kill any "Ragstorm" that I see in the game as soon as I have eyes on. Go ahead and lower your settings. I will see you first. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ragstorm88 8 Posted October 20, 2013 haha PM me and we can 1v1 anytime Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inception. 9443 Posted October 20, 2013 Due to my laptop not being that great, I am forced to play on low settings, however should/when I be given the option to turn grass/textures and everything up, I shall do just that. Disadvantage or not, I find it abhorred to exploit things regardless of who does it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SalamanderAnder (DayZ) 1747 Posted October 20, 2013 Heh, that would be too easy. I don't like to be fed; I like to hunt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aussiebobby 82 Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) Due to my laptop not being that great, I am forced to play on low settings, however should/when I be given the option to turn grass/textures and everything up, I shall do just that. Disadvantage or not, I find it abhorred to exploit things regardless of who does it.Ok,we'll let you off cus you haven't had the opportunity to buy a better pc. Oh wait,my 7950 and FX8350 seems to be getting hot,better put that old GT9800 and phenom 955 in....I can play on low now. Thanks Inception But really,If that excuse was a dog Id shoot it to put it out of its misery cus its so lame Edited October 20, 2013 by AussieBobby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inception. 9443 Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) Ok,we'll let of cus you haven't had the opportunity to buy a better pc. Oh wait,my 7950 and FX8350 seems to be getting hot,better put that old GT9800 and phenom 955 in....I can play on low now. Thanks Inception But really,If that excuse was a dog Id shoot it to put it out of its misery cus its so lame What? The reason why I have this laptop is because I have not yet had the opportunity to buy/build a good PC. I don't exactly understand whether you're disagreeing with me or not.--Now that I think about it, from when I recall, having the settings that affect the trees up higher makes it easier, for at a distance with everything on low the trees tend to morph together. Edited October 20, 2013 by Inception. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geryon 180 Posted October 20, 2013 Best way to spot people is to maintain situational awareness. Regardless of settings if you don't practice good awareness you'll be that asshat that gets constantly sniped or ambushed or worse complain that some one invisible killed you. Periodically stop and notice any movement.Swivel your headZoom in and zoom out into likely ambush areasWhen stopped scan across other tree lines with binos or teloscoped riflesEven in the forest run from one hard point to another. Try to avoid using auto key press and going for a smoke.I have a decent system but the settings are not maxed out. I do this to keep a constant 60 fps in the game. For me it isn't entirely about advantage but what for me is the optimal game performance without having it look like arse. Yes I don't need 60 fps to play Dayz but it affords enough tolerance to handle situations in the big cities were the fps can drop significantly. By the way game looks stunning on max but I'm not about to fall off the roof of the firehouse because of lag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OfficerRaymond 2064 Posted October 20, 2013 haha PM me and we can 1v1 anytime Suriously.... Suriously.... Did I just read this?..... The fucking CoD kiddies have arrived........... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klesh 2423 Posted October 20, 2013 What a bullshit thread. Max your graphics to what your rig can handle. Don't be a dick. :emptycan: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites