Fraggle (DayZ) 15720 Posted August 3, 2013 well if you followed the comments in both announcement and actual dev blog threads you should have seen that I m not the only one thinking like this. and if you would be smart you d see that my opinion is not referring to the community...its about the community, yes but I dont say they feel the way I do. the only reference to many of them/us is that they look every hour for new informations what - I am sure - is true for many ;)There's as many opinions about the development of DayZ as there are people in the community. None of us are right or wrong, we can't be because they are just our opinions. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DazTroyer 227 Posted August 3, 2013 Looks great, liking the updated graphics, menu and options. Rip tying and kidnapping someone is just uber cool. Alas no DayZ for at least a month and a half but it's looking like December again in my opinion. That's not cool. Ho hum... :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joe_mcentire 2074 Posted August 3, 2013 (edited) look..I m studying and I already finished all my exams early becuase I thought the game might come out within the next few weeks but I was fooled like very one else.if you would have followed the recent progress and his statements you would know it all stands and falls with their internal milestones, for which they have rough dates. They have a clear vision of what they want to do and how they want it to be. so they reviewed now their milestone outcomes and it is just not good enough for them. we'll have to accept that. this can be good or can be bad, we'll see. and well I cant tell him what to do I just remind him that he is n that position because of the community so he shouldnt feed us false statements to keep people so hyped. but you know what? that doesn't give us any form of entitlement. Of course we don't know if he wants to fuck with us. but considering all circumstances and how everything started, what their team looks like etc. it is highly unlikely. Does Dean make mistakes? yes of course! some time ago he wasn't even near leading a project such as DayZ. what do you expect? it seems to me that he wants to be honest and authentic. He is new to all of this, of course he creates hype where he probalby shouldn't, but it is surely a learning process for him as well. considering all these facts, i personally can forgive him slips of any kind and i can wait. let them do what they can. simple as that. you can just sit there watch and wait, anyway edit: ohh and i forgot to say: spread the love! Edited August 3, 2013 by joe_mcentire 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HumanBeing25 299 Posted August 3, 2013 Looks great, liking the updated graphics, menu and options. Rip tying and kidnapping someone is just uber cool.Alas no DayZ for at least a month and a half but it's looking like December again in my opinion. That's not cool. Ho hum... :(Shhhh.. Mr. HopeGiver. He said 3 months, not 1 and a half. And, you know, you have to add a month to every development team claim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoulHunter (DayZ) 233 Posted August 3, 2013 (edited) heh rocket, first of all I want to say that you kinda my hero. you developed a game concepts that I praised to be one of THE best games of all time to everyone I talked about it. I watched everything there is on the internet of dayz standalone and I was so excited about it for month. I played every single game you referred to in interviews because if you liked it it sort of HAD to be good and well I even fell in love with SS13 AND I didnt play war z just because I found the game to be dickmove of their publishers to develop the game jsut to get a share of the zombie survival game market if one can call it that. but mate you disappointed me with the last devblog. Not only is the footage total crap also I think you knew at E3 that the game wont be finish within the next 2 month. I think you are making false statements about the release because its good PR....lots and lots of players are waiting months on this game now. and you throwing them bones from time to time just to keep up the hype thatv evolved around the whole standalone and that might be a good PR method but it is just a total dickmove to the community because we are the people that look at your twitter account or devblog or reddit or WHATEVER every hour to see if there are any news when it comes out or what is new etc etc. and if you keep saying it might come out until then and then delay it over and over and over again its just not fair. dayz is a mod, and we made you the project leader by supporting your mod and your persona so dont be like that to us. you think we want the game to be at least in alpha state when its released? NO WE DONT otherwise we wouldnt play the mod, the standalone cant possibly be worse and more buggy then the mod? so dude fix the freakin network bubble sync the fcking zombie attacks and release the alpha. and if it makes you feel better call it pre alpha. no matter how shitty the standalone is in the beginning it will still be the top seller and really NO ONE will be angry with you if the game is not anywhere close to finish we just want to see and play it. and dont say that you are disappointed in the consumers because they want to throw money at you for and unfinished project, be like 'yay, the consumers who made me a project leader now dont care if my game is finish or not they love my idea so much that they dont care - feels good' excuse me if there are any spelling or grammer mistakes...english aint my native tongue Even though I almost disagree (nobody would be angry if it would be a piece of sh!t? REALLY ?o.O) with all of what you said up there I respect your opinion as "I think" every member of the community is supposed to. You are free to think/point out whatever you feel the need to be thought/pointed out (without insults/harsh words if possible), even you have the right to think and write that everyone in this community thinks the same way, but let me say that it is not really like that mate. You yourself said that you are not a native english speaker.. Which means there are also people that speak english as mother-language, right? There are different countries which have different kinds of people (all the countries are different, and the people that live in the same country, are also different.) Therefore imo you should not expect everyone to think as the same with you.. Even though you would say:"Killing innocent new-born kiddies and eating their meats just for fun is wrooong" there would still be people out there saying the opposite.. People (some) already seem upset with what they saw in the gaming meetings and the holy devblog we just had, you expect them to be happy if the game would be released like that right now? I'm starting to wonder what their definition of an alpha is. Are the Devs THAT horrified of the crowds reaction to a buggy game that's still in development? At this point you might as well not even bother calling it alpha.Read some of the comments on the youtube video and then consider what you would do.http://www.reddit.com/r/dayz/comments/1jlwc1/dayz_devblog_3_august_2013/cbg4fme?context=3 Try to make some emotion buddy, you just heard that he even got death treats.. It is not like everyone is waiting the game to pop up in peace. If that would be the case, then there would be only one country on the world and no evil people but pure goodness everywhere.. Flying pigs and such.. Regards Edited August 3, 2013 by SoulHunter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katana67 2907 Posted August 3, 2013 Why don't we just kind of... not indulge... the people who are misinformed/stubborn? It's hard, I know. Mission to civilize. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HumanBeing25 299 Posted August 3, 2013 Does Dean make mistakes? yes of course! some time ago he wasn't even near leading a project such as DayZ. I find it amusing when someone tries to 'stick up' for someone else, but ends up degrading the person they wanted to 'stick up for'. - "Come on, he's obviously fugly. You can't deny that."- "Yea, he is? Well.. ehh.. s-so what?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djshauny1 222 Posted August 3, 2013 Oh look, it's the guy with 16 posts come to share his infinite wisdom.Post count doesnt mean anything. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mime_mimington 12 Posted August 3, 2013 I for one wasn't fooled, i paid attention to what was actually being said by Rocket and ignored all speculation from the community and press.well then pay attention and dont just say you did. first of all I specifically said statements not promises that rocket made.he always says it might come out within......and so on. he said it at E3 he then hinted it again at rezzed and again there is a hint in the devblog when ivan talkes about how long he thinks it might take ;) so they keep us waiting always hoping it will be the next month..its jsut very smart PR and I find this to be very sad. it is feeding us false hope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mime_mimington 12 Posted August 3, 2013 look..if you would have followed the recent progress and his statements you would know it all stands and falls with their internal milestones, for which they have rough dates. They have a clear vision of what they want to do and how they want it to be. so they reviewd now their milestone outcomes and it is just not good enough for them. we'll have to accept that? this can be good or can be bad, we'll see. but you know what? that doesn't give us any form of entitlement. Of course we don't know if he wants to fuck with us. but considering all circumstances and how everything started, what their team looks like etc. it is highly unlikely. Does Dean make mistakes? yes of course! some time ago he wasn't even near leading a project such as DayZ. what do you expect? it seems to me that he wants to be honest and authentic. He is new to all of this, of course he creates hype where he probalby shouldn't, but it is surely a learning process for him as well. considering all these facts, i personally can forgive him slips of any kind and i can wait. let them do what they can. simple as that. you can just sit there watch and wait, anyway edit: ohh and i forgot to say: spread the love! dude this is actually a very nice statement. and I sure as hell for give him everything he does but still I m angry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zfleming12 395 Posted August 3, 2013 Anyways, anyone else notice the hat you could switch out of the back of a open trunk of a car.It's the little details like that which make this very interesting and immersive. This is the kind of quality I'm looking forward to in the game because it makes it feel more athuentic with the concept of the zombie apocalypse. Also we had bambi's hopping over fences.=P Yes I made a pun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SalamanderAnder (DayZ) 1747 Posted August 3, 2013 (edited) Post count doesnt mean anything. It does when their first few posts are completely idiotic. You never get a second chance to make a first impression. Especially considering that he was speaking as though it was on behalf of the community. But If someone has no posts, how can they possibly know the community? My point is, he hasn't been part of the community long enough to speak on the behalf of anyone except himself. Edited August 3, 2013 by SalamanderAnder 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djshauny1 222 Posted August 3, 2013 Im still shocked that someone has sent Dean death threats. I honestly feel sorry for the guy. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joe_mcentire 2074 Posted August 3, 2013 (edited) I find it amusing when someone tries to 'stick up' for someone else, but ends up degrading the person they wanted to 'stick up for'. - "Come on, he's obviously fugly. You can't deny that."- "Yea, he is? Well.. ehh.. s-so what?"well is it a fact? or what would you say? i guess dean would say that there are many things in such a position he has to learn...and how in particular am i degrading him?! Edited August 3, 2013 by joe_mcentire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HumanBeing25 299 Posted August 3, 2013 Im still shocked that someone has sent Dean death threats. I honestly feel sorry for the guy.I'm sure there's nothing to take seriously about these threats. I also get threatened on Youtube if I upset some 'proud' American. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HumanBeing25 299 Posted August 3, 2013 well is it a fact? or what would you say? i guess dean would say that there are many things in such a position he has to learn...and how in particular am i degrading him?!You obviously should not agree with the complaints, Joe. Just completely dismiss them as empty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joe_mcentire 2074 Posted August 3, 2013 Anyways, anyone else notice the hat you could switch out of the back of a open trunk of a car.It's the little details like that which make this very interesting and immersive. This is the kind of quality I'm looking forward to in the game because it makes it feel more athuentic with the concept of the zombie apocalypse. Also we had bambi's hopping over fences.=P Yes I made a pun.wa..wa...what? give me a yt time plz 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fluxley 2228 Posted August 3, 2013 (edited) well then pay attention and dont just say you did. first of all I specifically said statements not promises that rocket made.he always says it might come out within......and so on. he said it at E3 he then hinted it again at rezzed and again there is a hint in the devblog when ivan talkes about how long he thinks it might take ;) so they keep us waiting always hoping it will be the next month..its jsut very smart PR and I find this to be very sad. it is feeding us false hope. There you go, To me Ivan was clearly talking about how long the map changes would take, nothing to do with when the alpha will be released, he even talks about not wanting to disrupt the players experience so map updates would be implemented along with other big updates rather smaller more often updates. Edited August 3, 2013 by Fluxley 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoulHunter (DayZ) 233 Posted August 3, 2013 There you go, To me Ivan was clearly talking about how long the map changes would take, nothing to do with when the alpha will be released, he even talks about not wanting to disrupt the players experience so map updates would be implemented along with other big updates rather smaller mopre often updates. I understood the same^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joe_mcentire 2074 Posted August 3, 2013 You obviously should not agree with the complaints, Joe. Just completely dismiss them as empty.ahh i better try to convince someone to see from a different perspective... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HumanBeing25 299 Posted August 3, 2013 ahh i better try to convince someone to see from a different perspective...It's not about perspective, it's about truth. Either Dean is, or he isn't. As for all social values, those are already false by their own meaning.If someone makes a bald claim, you take a step back and stare at the person until he provides reasons to believe his bold statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mime_mimington 12 Posted August 3, 2013 There you go, To me Ivan was clearly talking about how long the map changes would take, nothing to do with when the alpha will be released, he even talks about not wanting to disrupt the players experience so map updates would be implemented along with other big updates rather smaller more often updates.yes you are totally right....but thats the kind of PR they do. its mind-fucking the community. they are playing with hopes and thats whay I find so bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djshauny1 222 Posted August 3, 2013 I'm sure there's nothing to take seriously about these threats. I also get threatened on Youtube if I upset some 'proud' American.Yeah I know exactly what you mean there lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoulHunter (DayZ) 233 Posted August 3, 2013 It's not about perspective, it's about truth. Either Dean is, or he isn't. As for all social values, those are already false by their own meaning. If someone makes a bald claim, you take a step back and stare at the person until he provides reasons to believe his bold statement. I do not agree with the fact that all the statements you see as invalid should not be cared just because the person has a different way of thinking regarding others.. I also think that this attitude is one of the main problems of the society, which lets only problems grow because they are not pointed out/heard well, and the ones who think that way are also not informed due to the lack of interest of different thoughts/ideas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fraggle (DayZ) 15720 Posted August 3, 2013 yes you are totally right....but thats the kind of PR they do. its mind-fucking the community. they are playing with hopes and thats whay I find so bad.Do you feel this recent blog has lied to you or misled you in any way? If so how? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites