beastoverlord 574 Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) Hello Everyone! I'm over watching people post myths or untrue things about the DayZ Standalone. Here are those topics of debate explained: Since some people probably don't want to watch the video and think I'm just doing it for views, here is an outline of what I cover:DayZ Standalone Myths1. The DayZ Standalone will come out in April- The answer is... not really.- All of this comes from an article by massively.joystiq.com- This is blown up from a Redit thread that is actually just a summary of another redit thread from here.- Here is what he said: "Yes I think so, but anything could happen and usually does. We'll know more when the results of the tech test are out. Any dates before then would be pure speculation, and my last speculation didn't work out so good."- So really, nowhere did he say April. He just threw a date out. It could very easily release much sooner or much later depending on the architecture test.2. The DayZ Standalone will release on consoles -No, not quite, Rocket said it would be probable if it released on Xbox if they sold over a million copies.-When asked on Lirik's Channel on Twitch Tv if DayZ would come out for Xbox, he stated, "I think dayz going to xbox would be very likely if we sold over 1 million units."Here are quotes from Rocket on the matter:Rocket said:It's just basic maths really. Anyone in the video game industry would say the same thing, once a game reaches a certain point - the likelihood of some kind of console port becomes quite high. Cross-platform releases are about maximizing sales. I care about zero for consoles, personally. I have an Xbox 360 they gave me with my tv, I played for about a few hours and it just wasn't for me. I used to work at Sidhe interactive and that really reinforced for me I don't like console GAMES nor the DEVELOPMENT of them. But many people do, so I would personally not have anything against a DayZ console port - although I struggle to see how I would personally be involved in such a development. I mean, I really couldn't care if there was a current gen console port. Anyone thinking my comments constitutes news really bemuses me, it's seems very obvious to me: certain number of sales = console port = more sales?Rocket said:DayZ was/is made to be the game that I want to play, not that makes the most money. I don't enjoy console games, I don't like the controller and the lack of options they currently present from a design perspective. There's not really any redeeming features for me, currently, for a console that would make me drop the PC. I've worked in console development before, didn't care much for it.3. A console port will ruin DayZI have heard people complain that a console port may ruin the PC version. Again, here is a quote from Rocket to quell their fears.Rocket said:If it was developed concurrently cross platform then yes, it would impact (i.e. Skyrim, XCOM). I would be, ahem, very unhappy with such a thing.But if independently of PC, it gets released on the Mac, iPhone, casio wristwatch, tibetian-ceremonial-balsa-wood-entertainment-drums ... who really cares? 2012 is the year of the PC game, the console manufactures know it, and they need to deliver for 2013 and beyond. We make the PC standalone development the best it can be... and if that translates well to another platform, cool! it means more players, and ultimately more customers.4. The DayZ Standalone will be priced just like Minecraft.- Well yes... and no. Yes, Rocket claimed that it would be priced like Minecraft. By this, he means that the price would be lower for people purchasing in the initial release and then the price will ramp up the better the game gets. Nowhere does he say that the price will be exactly like minecraft. When Matt Lightfoot was asked Q: What's the cost be of the standalone? and answered by saying, "A: Between 15€ and 20€, at the moment it's looking to be about 18€." Right now this would currently be about 24-25 dollars. But anyways, this quote outraged quite a few people just because they twisted Rocket's quote on the Minecraft model.If you enjoy this, don't forget to give it a like. I'll keep up the videos if I see enough likes. Edited January 21, 2013 by BeastOverlord 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#Sleepy 572 Posted January 21, 2013 Does anyone know if DayZ does go to console (I'm a strict PC player) would it have like Console/PC integration so you could be playing with someone on Xbox or PS3 while you're on PC? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrLoK 16186 Posted January 21, 2013 Hello there@Beast, thanks so much for putting up a summary of the video, I rarely watch vids but your summary is splendid and can really assist folk in choosing whether it's for them or not.I wish all vid posters would do it.RgdsLoK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beastoverlord 574 Posted January 21, 2013 Does anyone know if DayZ does go to console (I'm a strict PC player) would it have like Console/PC integration so you could be playing with someone on Xbox or PS3 while you're on PC?I have not seen any information on this at all and I don't think that exists. The console version is a complete afterthought for extra money if the Standalone sells well. I doubt they have thought it through at all. My best guess to your question would be no, but there is no official information. Hello there@Beast, thanks so much for putting up a summary of the video, I rarely watch vids but your summary is splendid and can really assist folk in choosing whether it's for them or not.I wish all vid posters would do it.RgdsLoKNo problem! I did it just because it also bugs me when they throw up a video with no explanation... It kind of forces you to watch it and it gives them views without really earning them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro_Marine 147 Posted January 21, 2013 Does anyone know if DayZ does go to console (I'm a strict PC player) would it have like Console/PC integration so you could be playing with someone on Xbox or PS3 while you're on PC?There are a few games that have attempted that but they all failed for the console gamers.There was a test done by Microsoft where they took some of the BEST X-Box players and pitted them against your average PC gamer and the X-Box guys got smoked. The project was then canceled.Consoles aren't as accurate as PC's when it comes to controls, so most likely it will be a "No". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IkaikaKekai 1957 Posted January 21, 2013 Heres another one to add to the list, "hey stadlnoe is out now bt is called someing elze and cnt by it ons team need 2 bye it frm dis guy's website" "Thats called ScamZ."nuu its standlaone it says so on ther website" "Then I smell a lawsuit a coming in Hammerpoint's direction." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DemonGroover 8836 Posted January 21, 2013 Nice one.The important lesson, as you said - check the source. More often than not the tracking of the source leads to a comment based on pure speculation. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#Sleepy 572 Posted January 21, 2013 There are a few games that have attempted that but they all failed for the console gamers.There was a test done by Microsoft where they took some of the BEST X-Box players and pitted them against your average PC gamer and the X-Box guys got smoked. The project was then canceled.Consoles aren't as accurate as PC's when it comes to controls, so most likely it will be a "No".Ah alright, thanks for clearing things up. I remembered when CS:GO was in production Cross Platform was an idea in development but was scraped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beastoverlord 574 Posted January 21, 2013 Heres another one to add to the list, "hey stadlnoe is out now bt is called someing elze and cnt by it ons team need 2 bye it frm dis guy's website" "Thats called ScamZ."nuu its standlaone it says so on ther website" "Then I smell a lawsuit a coming in Hammerpoint's direction."I try to keep all of my comments and rants PG. Along with this, I find it best to not offend anyone in the videos too much. I keep all of my negative comments on the forums. :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kitfoo@yahoo.com 13 Posted January 21, 2013 Rocket doesn't like console games. Beans for Rocket on this one. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mos1ey 6301 Posted January 21, 2013 Does anyone know if DayZ does go to console (I'm a strict PC player) would it have like Console/PC integration so you could be playing with someone on Xbox or PS3 while you're on PC?I highly doubt it.I really don't think it would be a straight up port over to console, a lot would have to be changed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmashT 10907 Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) Good video, nice to see someone actually using the source for information instead of misquotes from third party websites.Does anyone know if DayZ does go to console (I'm a strict PC player) would it have like Console/PC integration so you could be playing with someone on Xbox or PS3 while you're on PC?I seriously doubt it. Edited January 21, 2013 by smasht_AU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rage VG 4033 Posted January 21, 2013 Defo gonna get the standalone on my wristwatch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terrvik 2409 Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) Rocket doesn't like console games. Beans for Rocket on this one.There have been more awesome games on console since the beginning of gaming than PC so I don't really understand this viewpoint. Just saying. :) Edited January 21, 2013 by Terrorviktor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pancake Jackson 15 Posted January 21, 2013 There's no telling this information is true either. Its opinionated, just cause you dont like what you hear in other videos. Also, you state:"No its not coming out in april" then say "it may or may not" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmashT 10907 Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) There's no telling this information is true either. Its opinionated, just cause you dont like what you hear in other videos.Actually, he read the direct quotes word for word from Rockets Q&A, he even showed the exact posts on the video as he read them and linked the original sources.You're welcome to your opinions but don't spread misinformation in your videos by incorrectly quoting Rocket, for example "Dean Hall announced about two days ago that the release date would be before April or by April" is simply incorrect, he didn't say that at all and if these are your opinions then you need to make that clear instead of saying it's what Rocket said.I actually quite enjoy your videos personally but the two I have watched have both been misleading and if I wasn't following the development closely I would have taken that information as factual when it's not. Take it as constructive criticism, as long as you use direct quotes from the original source then you can give your opinion or interpret that however you like as everyone can see what was actually said. Edited January 21, 2013 by smasht_AU 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beastoverlord 574 Posted January 21, 2013 Defo gonna get the standalone on my wristwatch.Na, the Tibetian-Ceremonial-Balsa-Wood-Entertainment-Drums are far superior. :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rage VG 4033 Posted January 21, 2013 Na, the Tibetian-Ceremonial-Balsa-Wood-Entertainment-Drums are far superior. :PNO STFU SUTPID TIBETAN-CEREMONIAL-BALLSA-WOODY-ENTERTAINMENT-DRUMBS FANBOY WRISTWATCH FOR LIFE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beastoverlord 574 Posted January 21, 2013 Also, you state:"No its not coming out in april" then say "it may or may not"If you think about it, what I said makes perfect sense. The correct answer is: 'No, it's not coming out in April because it may or may not."And why is that the correct answer? Because it leaves everything up in the air. There is no answer right now... when you say something like on or before April, you are giving an answer that isn't there. When I say, "It may or may not" I'm not giving any answer on when it is coming out, it's undefined. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fraggle (DayZ) 15720 Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) Nice vid! Hopefully it clears thing's up for some people.I seem to spend half my time ATM correcting people that mis-quote Rocket or take a quote out of context to prove a point. The other day I saw a post by a member that quoted Rocket (wrongly/out of context). 30 mins later that quote had been posted as fact by 2 other users and then someone else started a thread to discuss this "fact" and started raging about it.Urhghghghg. Edited January 21, 2013 by Fraggle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beastoverlord 574 Posted January 21, 2013 Nice vid! Hopefully it clears thing's up for some people.I seem to spend half my time ATM correcting people that mis-quote Rocket or take a quote out of context to prove a point. The other day I saw a post by a member that quoted Rocket (wrongly/out of context). 30 mins later that quote had been posted as fact by 2 other users and then someone else started a thread to discuss this "fact" and started raging about it.Urhghghghg.Thanks Fraggle! I've been noticing this a lot on the forums too and it's been bugging me... hence the video. :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beastoverlord 574 Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) On this same topic... I thought this would be helpful to add: Edited January 22, 2013 by BeastOverlord Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beastoverlord 574 Posted January 23, 2013 pewpewpew. Lets see if I can get this across one last time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#Sleepy 572 Posted January 24, 2013 Dat Triple Post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrme 4 Posted February 8, 2013 Hey Beast, Do you think theres a chance for the DayZ Standalone to go for Mac? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites