Would you quit if servers went expert?

[bad_mojo (DayZ) 1204]

Whenever the topic of first person comes up, people always throw out the "well just go play on a first person only server! ugh your so dumb" and think the discussion is settled. Well guess what? First person only servers are very few and very unpopulated.

So my question, is if ALL servers decided to switch to expert settings (no crosshair, no name, no kill messages, no third person, and probably something else I've forgotten) would you still play the game? Or is the server settings such a huge part of your DayZ expereince that you couldn't enjoy it anymore?

I'm curious how the community would react if Rocket did what I want him to do in standalone.

Edited November 15, 2012 by bad_mojo

[Mos1ey 6301]

Would I quit? No, I would fap.

[xenomta 128]

Yeah, first person makes it so much better and adds tension in firefights.

[Leadon77 94]

I'd need a steady supply of motion sickness pills or to quit playing...as no matter what I do with the settings I get motion sick in first person all the time, short stints no problem, long runs I need a bucket.

Would I quit playing probably not, would it limit my playing time to nearly pointless, Yes definetely.

(btw this is the only game that gives me that feeling in First person, so maybe has to do with a graphical quality)

Edited November 14, 2012 by Leadon77

[rallye 89]

I would play more...

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

I wouldn't stop playing it, but most have come to recognise DayZ as a 3rd person experience, with FPS gameplay. Which is how I've gotten used to it. 1st person all the time gets boring IMO, so I just use it for shooting.

You have to keep in mind, if Rocket did what you want him to do with standalone, it wouldn't be true to DayZ. We need him to do what he wants to do.

[bad_mojo (DayZ) 1204]

I'd need a steady supply of motion sickness pills or to quit playing...as no matter what I do with the settings I get motion sick in first person all the time, short stints no problem, long runs I need a bucket.

Would I quit playing probably not, would it limit my playing time to nearly pointless, Yes definetely.

(btw this is the only game that gives me that feeling in First person, so maybe has to do with a graphical quality)

Did you turn off post processing, headbob and have your 3d resolution at 100%? Also you could try double tapping the - to get a wider FOV.

[Mos1ey 6301]

I'd need a steady supply of motion sickness pills or to quit playing...as no matter what I do with the settings I get motion sick in first person all the time, short stints no problem, long runs I need a bucket.

Would I quit playing probably not, would it limit my playing time to nearly pointless, Yes definetely.

(btw this is the only game that gives me that feeling in First person, so maybe has to do with a graphical quality)

I guess you disabled head-bob already as that's obvious, but have you tried manually adjusting your FOV in your ArmA2OAProfile file?

[Siberian (DayZ) 527]

YES... simple as that..

illl take it a step further and tell you i dont even watch Youtube vids of DayZ in 1ST person..

Edited November 14, 2012 by Siberian

[bad_mojo (DayZ) 1204]

I wouldn't stop playing it, but most have come to recognise DayZ as a 3rd person experience, with FPS gameplay. Which is how I've gotten used to it. 1st person all the time gets boring IMO, so I just use it for shooting.

You have to keep in mind, if Rocket did what you want him to do with standalone, it wouldn't be true to DayZ. We need him to do what he wants to do.

Well, I'm not pushing him to make them all expert settings for my sake. I'm just saying if he does it like that, it would be the same as what I would have done. I want Rocket to make the game he wants.

I don't want to get into the pro & cons of first person, there are lots of threads for that discussion. I was just using it as an example of how people want to keep these settings that make the game easier, or as rocket would say... more accessible. I'm curious if those options were taken from their game, how would people react.

[Leadon77 94]

^ no haven't even thought of that...will try when I get home tonight...thanks!

[klesh 2423]

Well guess what? First person only servers are very few and very unpopulated.

So you want rocket to switch to a game mode for standalone which has already proven itself to be unpopular?

[Mos1ey 6301]

^ no haven't even thought of that...will try when I get home tonight...thanks!

No problem!

Here's a good guide to FOV in ArmA 2...

http://dayzmod.com/f...rom-dayzpvpcom/

As you probably expected it's 1,000 times more complicated than it has to be. :D

Edited November 14, 2012 by mZLY

[Dankine 377]

some of those are a must (no nameplaters, no tracers) death messages are useful but not that important.

[Rage VG 4033]

So you want rocket to switch to a game mode for standalone which has already proven itself to be unpopular?

He didn't say he wanted him to do that. He asked how people would react if rocket did that.

[klesh 2423]

I'm curious how the community would react if Rocket did I want him to do in standalone.

He didn't say he wanted him to do that. He asked how people would react if rocket did that.

I must've read that wrong then. Later he does say he wants rocket to make the game he wants, but obviously there is motivations to this thread.

[Rage VG 4033]

I must've read that wrong then. Later he does say he wants rocket to make the game he wants, but obviously there is motivations to this thread.

Ah, he says "I'm curious how everyone would react if rocket made the game how I want it" (Or something to that effect), but meh, it's not a big deal, amirite?

For the record, I care not for expert mode, as I play in first person all the time anyway.

[bad_mojo (DayZ) 1204]

So you want rocket to switch to a game mode for standalone which has already proven itself to be unpopular?

Yes. As long as it follows Rockets vision for DayZ. I don't think popular opinion should play any part in the development of DayZ.

In my opinion, DayZ has gotten this popular because it didn't conform to popular opinion. Going back on that philosophy now would really just screw things up. If people can't accept the game DayZ was always going to be, they shouldn't have gotten on board in Alpha.

I see a lot of people pushing hard to make this game more easy. Not just with server settings, but now private hive mods are further making it easier and easier. It's clear that if you give people the ability to dumb down the DayZ experience, they will run with it and push it as far as it'll go. The thing is tho, this game is evolving and those people are going to be left behind if Rocket locks things down in the future.

I guess I'm just asking these questions to see what those people think, are they going to stick with their private 'easy mode' hive if the official servers were forced to run expert settings. Also, if the standalone does it, will they simply stick with the mod?

[klesh 2423]

I wouldn't be happy, but I wouldn't quit. I play mostly in 3rd person and go into 1st when shooting.

[Inception. 9443]

Would I quit? No, I would fap.

Your mentality is most pleasing.

And no, I would not quit...in fact, I would be more motivated to play. No kill message? Yes please.

[ZomboWTF 527]

i dont think giving people choices is bad, keeping some settings up to the server owner is just normal and the best way to go

you can argue in both ways anyway, it is true you have a feeling for where your bodyparts are in real life so seeing your whole body in third person is realistically and gives you a deeper immersion as to who you are and what you do

first person however is the only way to stop people looking around corners without actually showing themselfes, and makes the immersion even more than in third person, and aiming is easier, but at the same time is a pain when walking long or wanting to be sure you are hidden, and the only viable option to start trading or talking with people without being in utmost danger, also you cant see the whole spectrum of the capability of a human eye without frog vision or three monitors

i hope the choice will still be with the server owners wether third or first person, makes the most sense and will keep both sides happy, though i guess third person will have more players all the time, since it is allready a hardcore game without first person only

[terrvik 2409]

I would smile for a week. I started on a veteran (with first-person only) servers with everything off back in the days where you had to hammer the enter key to even get in a server. Was really baffled when I learned that stuff like waypoints and such were used. :)

And I am not "hardcore" either, I suck at the game. I just like the emotions the harsh environment conveys.

[bad_mojo (DayZ) 1204]

I would obviously love if expert settings were standard. Originally I played only on first person servers, but due to lack of a population I've now switched to 3rd person servers and I'll admit I use 3rd person about 90% of the time. I use 3rd person view because it's better, but I feel the game itself would improve without it. To me, it's similar to auto-aim in console games, if it's there, you HAVE to use it because everyone else does.

[Parasprite 35]

I would play a lot more. The only reason I use 3rd person is because if I don't I'm putting myself at a major disadvantage.

[OrLoK 16185]

Hello there

I prefer it hard, and the game settings on expert. 1st person too.

But, there is a fanbase who don't like it that way and why should they be alienated?

I think it should be a server setting, but more servers should man up and be all butch and macho and have all assistance/3rd person off.

Did I mention I like it hard?

rgds

LoK