Infected children in DayZ. Poll.

[ebay 34]

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Edited January 1, 2019 by ebay

[DZR_Mikhail 2424]

They shot a child zombie in the widely popular Walking Dead TV series.

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Please, no.

They also spread pronography, they sell people to slavery, they sell drugs...

They can do everything they want in this world. Money can buy every imaginable perversion. You gave a very bad example. If it is somewhere presently introduced, it doesnt mean it was right decision. It's just a sad fact and no more.

[martink8190@gmail.com 149]

No, why, its a subtle and ethical question, not only will this add almost anything to the game, most people i play with have kids, and they wont like this, this can be the reason we will leave if this is implemented, but perhaps it could change gameplay. Since its going to be only an aestheticc change, i am totally against!!!!! I might even leave, no kids should be harmed, and if you do this, where are you going to stop? Children as optionable skin? NO, this is a very hard ethical and moral question, lets not even go into this, its too tiring and we do not want to portray the image of child killers.

I agree or am convinced it could do more harm to the game than good. On the other hand, I think many are too sensitive about it. IMO with children included in the game as zombies dayz will be even more shocking ''reality'', which is obviously the point but the question remains - is it really worth it? The game could be as well banned god knows where.

[ebay 34]

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Edited January 1, 2019 by ebay

[DZR_Mikhail 2424]

Colonel-Wicked, you can consider me a sensitive person. I understand that its my personal problem/quality. My sensitivity was boosted when I became a father.

But ethics and morality are common for evryone I thoight. Can you really say theres nothin against it in this zombie-child idea?

[DZR_Mikhail 2424]

Ouch. Ebay, saying "They" I meant anyone who has the choice of doing and not doing something they can.

[Lefroy Jenkins 32]

OK maybe I should clarify the "They" we are talking about here. AMC Network aired the killing of a child zombie on their rated TV_14 popular series "The Walking Dead." Here is the clip:

The example is a comparison between a very popular mainstream zombie TV show and a very popular zombie video game. If you've ever watched the show I don't think anyone would recommend letting children watch it. There is a lot of graphic and violent content. I don't think anyone would want children playing this game either even as it currently stands. But please consider that the majority of this game's player base are mature adults or young adults over the age of fourteen. Please also recognize your personal bias in having children of your own and try to see the issue from all perspectives.

Try to notice the very dramatic treatment that single scene was given. In order to shoot that child, they spent most of the season doing very little else but building the sense of hope and dread that led to this scene. Then they dragged the scene out to show the emotionally devastating effects this was having on those involved. You won't get that treatment in a videogame if children zombie models are used. You'll get "Killing Kids in DayZ" videos on YouTube, but you won't see any life shattering drama, because that requires work to set up.

I said before that I thought the addition of children to DayZ would be too disturbing. I wasn't referring to the children themselves, but what a sizeable portion of the playerbase would do with it.

So, unless DayZ is going to have Final Fantasy style cutscenes interspersed through it, the addition of children to DayZ could not get the treatment it requires, and for that reason, I can't support the idea.

[Riem 164]

Ouch. Ebay, saying "They" I meant anyone who has the choice of doing and not doing something they can.

I apologize in advance for this, but I think you should have either not started this thread or should excuse yourself from it, given the fact that you have what seems no chance of allowing your mind to be changed, which is admirable, but leads only to an unproductive thread.

You are entitled to defend your view, and you are indeed entitled to voice your opinion, but by starting it as a poll and then strongly advocating not placing children infected in the game, you come across as trying to influence the opinions in a rather unscrupulous manner. I understand you have a child, and it would be rather wrong and hypocritical of me to say that I understand, but this is a game. More importantly, this is the suggestions thread for a game, and by starting this thread you may have asked a hard question many of us answered, but it seems you didn't want to hear the answers many have given.

You have given your point, and responding in defense of it to every poster who disagrees isn't going to help.

[Raged 187]

They aren't children, they're infected. I can understand all the points your making, and the target audience.

But there's people like me. Albeit somewhat completely moral citizens, with or without children, who play video games because of the fact it's one of the only places where I can go nuts without consequence. Yea, I work out, eat right, and train my brain at school most of the week, but game time is relaxing, act on impulse time. Not cold and calculating grown-up time.

Don't restrain the realistic performance if you can easily overlay another model with the click of the button. What was once a child is now a crazy murloc coming at you with the same animations and sounds.

I think this idea was once called 'kiddie-mode'. Change it to 'Low-Gore' mode and everybody's happy :lol:

[MasterZ 90]

I personally don't care much of it gets added or not.

To be perfectly honest the only thing it will do gameplay wise is that I sometimes have to aim slightly different to get headshots, (keeping in mind the hoppers).

Psychologically it wont do much either, it's not like we are shooting live people here, just AI that are appear like humans.

With the addition of children we just get miniature versions.

On the other side of the coin, there is no reason for them not to be in the game.

So I'm pretty indifferent and I'd say that if he wants to add them that he should make them a low priority.

[Michaelvoodoo25 3120]

I used to disagree with having zombie children in game, however seeing as chernaurus is a simulation they would not be represented as real children, but as zombIe children. But then again I can also sympathise with different countries certification and ratings being a stopping point!

If perhaps Rocket could implement children zombies after release or as a add-on of sorts for those who want it? This would work around any limitations via regional classification. That way voters for and against could choose what to have in their gameplay.

Failing that just add midget zombies and use your imagination.

[Michaelvoodoo25 3120]

I personally don't care much of it gets added or not.

Psychologically it wont do much either, it's not like we are shooting live people here, just AI that are appear like humans.

With the addition of children we just get miniature versions.

Picture it is dark, your in a house looting, you turn around and a kid zombie runs at you! Screeching to high heaven as it runs at you snarling, blood dripping from its mouth as your torch waves around frantically.

You would shit them, don't lie. : p

Remember zombies are being re-done for the SA, new patching and new looks, sounds and actions!

[Seacher 3]

If they did it right, it would add to the game. If they spawn as rare as Mountin Dew, and in places where you less expect them; then yea it would be good. If they are every third infected then no it wouldn't add anything to the game. Most children younger then teenager probably wouldn't surive long enought to become infected, majority of them would be a snack. So seeing them a lot wouldn't be good. Teenagers on the other hand would still be less then adults but probably higher chance of suriving the intial attack to become infected.

Children and teens could have a quieter voices, run better but lose intrested in you quicker, maybe.

It would cool, in future updates if we could also play as teenagers, male and females. New skins for females would be nice as well.

Yes, we need female zombies.

[Sutinen 635]

I don't really care if they get added or not, I think it's an useless feature.

[birdman 108]

I don't really care if they get added or not, I think it's an useless feature.

It only makes sense as all humans could be infected. Fat, skinny, white, black, young and old would all be vulnerable.

[Smalltown 29]

Zombies aren't nice creatures. They don't care about equality, gender, race, age, anything. They only care about killing and eating what they kill. Children are no exception, they die just as bad as regular folk, if not faster.

If the idea of children horrifies you in a zombie game, then good, you should be affected. They're young, a sign of innocence and the preciousness of life, so to see them as part of the problem that's killing folks should be terrifying as all hell. If for one second, it makes you hesitate to click your mouse and make your gun fire, then the game's doing what its suppose to do, make surviving hell.

Edited September 25, 2012 by Smalltown

[nabehobby 13]

there's a reason you cant kill children in any game. (unless it's a mod)

it's illegal. dayz would get massive sue letters from parents.

Edited September 25, 2012 by CaptainBingo

[DemonGroover 8836]

Unfortunately do this = Banned in Australia

[DZR_Mikhail 2424]

I apologize in advance for this, but I think you should have either not started this thread or should excuse yourself from it, given the fact that you have what seems no chance of allowing your mind to be changed, which is admirable, but leads only to an unproductive thread.

You are entitled to defend your view, and you are indeed entitled to voice your opinion, but by starting it as a poll and then strongly advocating not placing children infected in the game, you come across as trying to influence the opinions in a rather unscrupulous manner. I understand you have a child, and it would be rather wrong and hypocritical of me to say that I understand, but this is a game. More importantly, this is the suggestions thread for a game, and by starting this thread you may have asked a hard question many of us answered, but it seems you didn't want to hear the answers many have given.

You have given your point, and responding in defense of it to every poster who disagrees isn't going to help.

No need to apologize. I'm thankful for what you have told me. Your point is very fair and adequate and I take it. I started this poll both in Russian and English sections of the forums just to make people reflect on this idea. The idea of poll was not mine, many users were tired of simply discussing it and our Russian thread evolved into a poll. I skipped the useless argumenting and made a poll for you, which will reflect the current public opinion more precisely than any amount of arguments below it in discussion.

The opinions I express and my strive to influence the other... right, now seems a bit harsh and too much agressive. I just want other to know what different aspects and underlying problems are hidden in this matter besides simple decorative or emotional game content.

But now I'd better leave the discussion and watch what others may say. Sorry for my moralizing too much... just couldn't help it.

[Delta Smoke 01 765]

Silent hill had crazy knife wielding babies. I remember the fear inside me on seeing those in 32 bit on the psx. This game is supposed to give the player a hightened sense of fear. Im all for it. Its not like you'd be literally shooting children. They are undead. As in already dead.

[3rdparty 229]

Been suggested before, but I like that youve put a poll up that includes different focus groups like any practical satanic marketist (is that a word?) would.

But thinking abotu it, I was on a mates computer a few weeks ago and started a game of Black & White 2, upon which building a massive city, I collected all the children from the nursaries, and threw them off a cliff. (It was a creative population control method I employed)

I cannay remember any controversy (or at least not severe) about the prospect of you sacrificing or killing children in Black & White 2?

Tbh i think zombie children should be part of a whole host of alternate zombies that exhibit different abilities without creating the spceialist zombies ye get in l4d

So like, zed children are quick and nimble,

but you could have fat morbidly obese zombies that are slow, but WILL knock you down if ye get to close, and take more shots to the torso.

Or zed police, wearing bullet proof vests requiring a head shot.

Or even disabled zeds, house bound elederly zeds or bed ridden hospital zeds.

I dunno, maybe its cuz im a teacher and drunk, and just wanna shoot children on the weekends to balance out their endless energy during the week XD

[birdman 108]

Been suggested before, but I like that youve put a poll up that includes different focus groups like any practical satanic marketist (is that a word?) would.

But thinking abotu it, I was on a mates computer a few weeks ago and started a game of Black & White 2, upon which building a massive city, I collected all the children from the nursaries, and threw them off a cliff. (It was a creative population control method I employed)

I cannay remember any controversy (or at least not severe) about the prospect of you sacrificing or killing children in Black & White 2?

Tbh i think zombie children should be part of a whole host of alternate zombies that exhibit different abilities without creating the spceialist zombies ye get in l4d

So like, zed children are quick and nimble,

but you could have fat morbidly obese zombies that are slow, but WILL knock you down if ye get to close, and take more shots to the torso.

Or zed police, wearing bullet proof vests requiring a head shot.

Or even disabled zeds, house bound elederly zeds or bed ridden hospital zeds.

I dunno, maybe its cuz im a teacher and drunk, and just wanna shoot children on the weekends to balance out their endless energy during the week XD

Choose:

A. I hope you are not an english teacher.

B. Leave that out of the parent teacher conference.

C. Awesome.

D. Can I have some of that shit you're drinking?

Edited September 26, 2012 by thebirdolux

[Kajin 25]

Not overly fond of the idea. I wouldn't mind if it got implemented, but I wouldn't praise such a decision either.

[3rdparty 229]

Choose:

A. I hope you are not an english teacher.

B. Leave that out of the parent teacher conference.

C. Awesome.

D. Can I have some of that shit you're drinking?

A. Physics and Maths XD

B. I try

C. I hope it will be so!

D. You can, Morgans Rum! Id send you some directly if it wasnt for the thought of me pissing on my laptop :(

[birdman 108]

D. You can, Morgans Rum! Id send you some directly if it wasnt for the thought of me pissing on my laptop :(

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I'll catch you when I get back!