sp86 508 Posted September 11, 2012 um..what? what is BPV, when did i mention decreased scope sway?You didn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavalin 90 Posted September 11, 2012 The trick to be honest, is not rewarding all sides equally as human's we'll take the easier route, its easier to bandit plane and simple. To add balance to the game the rewards have to be spread out to make them work getting. As of now AS 50 + ghillie = best bandit set up. (Back up L85A2). If bandits =do get less recoil and such well then. That mechanic would be a bit much because that -does- help against people, and zombies if you get mushed in a corner and have to shoot. A reward system shouldn't give too much of a perk reguardless. Balancing them isn't easy. It would come down to what gives people the best bonus, playstyle be damned. I currently have 5k humanity or so, I run around with a few friends, each of them play differently as well. Having a reward based on what you do could be interesting but the bonus would have to be very very small to keep things balanced. As likely if a BPV is actually in affect on a hero, he takes less zombie damage -most- likely. Which to me is the biggest benefit -if- present at all. I've dove behinde people to pick up zombie aggro from them to run them around. +2 cents Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inception. 9443 Posted September 11, 2012 The ghillie suit seems to have the same effect. I shot a friend in the chest whilst he was wearing one, and he took no damage what so ever, aside from being in shock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
broguenz 333 Posted September 11, 2012 And if heroes get bullet proof vests then bandits should get something equally useful for being good at killing players.Except that its not even that hard to kill players in this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inception. 9443 Posted September 11, 2012 Being a bandit is MUCH easier than being a hero. That's why there are so many bandits. If hero's get a slight edge it could only even out the playing field.SO many bandits? There are hardly any bandits. You're talking about murderers, not bandits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sausagekingofchicago 4711 Posted September 11, 2012 I knew about the speed bit but they have resistance to damage too?Won't affect me since I snipe for the head anyway, but that's still extremely stupid. What kind of sandbox game punishes a particular gameplay style?Honestly I've not been terribly impressed with most of the latest features that have been added and discussed. Would rather bugs be fixed rather than adding new problems.How many shots from a makarov or m9 to the chest does it take to kill a guy? Exactly. It's not much of a benefit at all. If you come face to face with a guy with nothing but a makarov you don't really stand a chance anyway. The bandit weapon of choice is still going to kill the hero in one shot. Quit whining.Why fix bugs when they should be working on the standalone? I'd rather the standalone be polished than this bloody mod that's plagued with hackers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sausagekingofchicago 4711 Posted September 11, 2012 Seriously, wtf picks up a makarov anyway? It's useless against zombies and even more so against players. If you have an M9 and no rifle you're doing it wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sp86 508 Posted September 11, 2012 SO many bandits? There are hardly any bandits. You're talking about murderers, not bandits.The distinction is academic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chernojourno 226 Posted September 11, 2012 I'd be happy with Hero's getting an added edge.Maybe extra blood so they have a better chance of survival. Anything that would make the game less punishing to be good would be an improvement IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeoblong@yahoo.com 614 Posted September 11, 2012 I heard hero the hero had a bigger "package" then the bandit skins. no fair! Quit crying children as you bandits like to tell us, "it's only a game!!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slartibartfast (DayZ) 77 Posted September 12, 2012 If this is true then frankly, it's fucking bullshit.Didn't rocket always say he'd never punish a gameplay style?This isn't punishing anybody. It is rewarding some. We are not talking about bullet proof or speedy Gonzalez here. It probably equates to an extra couple metres every 10 seconds, if it is even true.Anyway, why do Skiddie snipers need to run? They just spend all day sitting on their fat arses on sniper hill, shooting noobs and heroes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omgwtfbbq (DayZ) 1069 Posted September 12, 2012 Not an experiment, not a test, nothing. See? Being a "bandit" finally has balanced downsides, and being a hero has its upsides. Bandits get shot on sight, and heroes are bulletproof. Let's go, rocket! :thumbsup: (no sarcasm) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bazbake 456 Posted September 12, 2012 Won't affect me since I snipe for the head anyway, but that's still extremely stupid. What kind of sandbox game punishes a particular gameplay style?Grand Theft Auto, Mercenaries, True Crime: Streets of LA, Sleeping Dogs, Saboteur, Fallout, The Sims... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
colekern 1364 Posted September 12, 2012 I knew about the speed bit but they have resistance to damage too?Won't affect me since I snipe for the head anyway, but that's still extremely stupid. What kind of sandbox game punishes a particular gameplay style?Honestly I've not been terribly impressed with most of the latest features that have been added and discussed. Would rather bugs be fixed rather than adding new problems.It's not punishing bad guys, it's rewarding good guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izii Helfari 3 Posted September 13, 2012 (edited) You know, I've been playing with the 'Hero Skin' for two days now, I regularly hook up with the regular players on my server to help them out. I'm more of a Co-Op player, less of a PvPer, certainly this doesn't mean I won't get a window to see through my chest when the 20+ other regular players wearing ghillie suit shoot my ass with a AS50.As for the run faster thing? Sure, fine, lets just have the people cry about how this is apparently a way to punish everyone else. I guess people forget about the fact, when dealing with snipers:I've been killed by snipers twice already with my handy-dandy 'Hero Skin', and I literally get told - because asshats with .50 caliber rifles like to brag - the 'Hero Skin' is shit because anyone who shoots first and asks questions never will just blow away the nice guy.So fine, sure, keep crying you bandits, I just fail to see how all of this debate as to how this makes the Hero Skin more powerful. If anything, it's been getting my ass shot more often. Edited September 13, 2012 by Izii Helfari 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cptmackay 9 Posted September 13, 2012 If this is true then frankly, it's fucking bullshit.Didn't rocket always say he'd never punish a gameplay style?Its a balance. Hero's dont get the luxury of killing people and stealing their stuff 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
