For the millionth time magazines are NOT clips!

[Demon20 46]

Yes, words are just words. Variables we use to communicate between ourselves and within our communities. Yes, it doesn't matter what those words are. But, when we settle on one...and settle on it's meaning...it is not elitest to insist upon it's continued use in order to further efficient communication.

Sure, once society has evolved into calling magazines hamsters, we will all do so gladly, but in the interim, if you get shot in the face because you are fucking confusing the people around you because try as they might...then can not give you two hamsters for your AKM, you'll only have yourself to blame.

I for one, elitest or not, will continue to call magazines magazines and clips clips. I will ask those around me in game, and in real life to give me a MAGazine for my M-14 and CLIP for my Enfield. That way no one is confused, I am not fusing over loose hamsters and I keep my face away from the projectiles stored in their magazines or clips.

Out.

[flawlesssoul 30]

Yes, words are just words. Variables we use to communicate between ourselves and within our communities. Yes, it doesn't matter what those words are. But, when we settle on one...and settle on it's meaning...it is not elitest to insist upon it's continued use in order to further efficient communication.

It's not elitist to call a clip a clip, and a magazine a magazine. It is elitist to complain when a lot of others do different, and claim you do it right because it's wrong to do otherwise.

[Worrun (DayZ) 108]

YAwn.

It's minutae that only people in the know care about.

It's like trying to correct grammar. Well, worse because it's obscure.

This is like a farmer trying to correct us for calling the tractor in the game a tractor when he and his farmer buddies call it something else.

But noted. Say Magazines or risk the wrath of guys with too many guns and not enough to kill.

It's a Massey Ferguson not a Tractor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[frodevil 15]

My face when Brits call Rectangular Trajectile Restraints "Boxy Bang-Bang Holders"

you aren't using the joke correctly

[frodevil 15]

thanks for the tip, now i know the correct terms.

but alas im still gonna call everything a CLIP becaues CLIP is soooo much easier to say than MAGAZINE

im not adding another 2 syllables to my words for no reason

but i do get it now at least

btw anyone see that cool new magazine on youtube?

:P

"mag"

dumbass

[BlksnshN 127]

I picked up an MK48 mod 0 with 5 CLIPS at the NW airfield yesterday. :rolleyes:

[frodevil 15]

I call rifles 'gunz'

Where is your god now?

you'd be correct (technically), Mr. "wears sunglasses indoors", as rifles are a subtype of 'gun'.

[frodevil 15]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but both the Merriam-Webster and Oxford dictionaries have agreed that "clip" and "magazine" are entirely interchangeable when referring to firearms and their ammunition.

Originally, a clip was a strip of metal binding a number of cartridges together for insertion into a firearm. A stripper clip was discarded as the bullets were fed from it, and an en bloc design retained the clip until it was exhausted. You can find clips in game for various rifles, and indeed the revolver (.45 ACP). However, the word clip was often used to refer to magazines by soldiers receiving them. Later, clip would become synonymous with both the original meaning, and the new type of ammunition storage (but only when it's referring to a firearm magazine. The original magazine was the term for a storage room, either in a building or on a ship, where ammunition was kept).

You would have been right, if this were not 2012. Welcome to the 21st century, gentlemen.

http://www.merriam-w...ionary/magazine

http://oxforddiction...nglish/magazine

http://www.merriam-w...dictionary/clip

http://oxforddiction...on/english/clip

The only people that insist there is a difference are elitist pedants who drive horseless carriages.

your sources do not match your claim at all, try again

[Hetstaine 10852]

Don't they call prime movers tractors in the States ? and lorries in the UK ? Fucking lorries ??? Sounds like a small plastic object a child pushes around.

'Ooooh yes i remember Oxford Johnnie..wasnt he clipped by a lorry full of magazines ? '

What about if i only manage to clip someone after emptying a full mag from my Kobra, should i call it clip or wing, i always call it wing and my missus says it makes no sense as we are not birds and therefore cannot be 'winged'. My argument with her is ' would you rather i say i armed him ? or legged him ? She begrudgingly lets me use wing or winged but i see her forehead crease eveytime i wing another zed. Its actually amazing how many i can wing in a single session.

clip, mag ..got it and thanks, its pretty basic stuff. I was thinking clip was slang for a pistol only magazine maybe, i was never really sure. I have also always understood that a magazine is a place ( i thought it was just a ship term though and didnt relate to land storage) where the ammo is stored. Guessing the Barham was not a fan ;)

[mio.rogvall@gmail.com 107]

Who fucking cares.

[Blackbook 4]

Silly, clips hold your hair back,

magazines are for reading on the loo,

its "bullet holders" that click in my boom stick.

Very much my philosophy.

[moofactory 62]

I always thought clip was short for magazine clip.

After looking at the differences, I guess that's kind of correct when you look at purpose and function.

At the end of the day, Bandaid is a brand not an Elastoplast but everyone knows what you mean when you say it.

As much as googling something.

Sometimes while technically incorrect, some words become a generalized meaning due to social acceptance which eventually takes over and becomes the standard acceptable term.

History tells us this.

[Lazy (DayZ) 4]

It seems strange to me that someone with apparent expertise could correct us on probably one of the most frequently misused terms in the game and we're not grateful. I understand that people don't like to be corrected, but if you learn something from someone just say thank you.

So for my sanity and to hopfully educate some people that may actually care what the hell they are talking about, here is a quick primer on clips vs mags.

Clearly, if you don't care, this post was not intended for you. I personally do care whether I am saying something incorrectly so thank you.

As for the elitism crack: If you believe other people are doing something incorrectly, it is not elitest to correct them. If anything an absence of correction is more likely to denote an elitist.

Well....I guess I better get back to repeatedly dying on this game. Seeya.

[Ramboness (DayZ) 15]

I call them dicks and vags

[Lukio (DayZ) 24]

Are there any clips in the game at all? Anyway this is some serious gun cult sperging here. It doesn't matter as its just a game, you could also name them radishes or coco pops and everyone would understand what is meant. Seriously its like in the old days of CS where people fought over the assault rifle if its an M4, M16 or M16A1.

If these were real guns I maybe would care because it could be important, in the game I press R and whatever ammunition I have, if its a magazin or a clip or just shells, it gets magically placed into the gun.

Thank you for educating everyone who cares about the right terms for a bunch of pixels.

your sources do not match your claim at all, try again

Dude did you even check out the "Noun" or did you just read the "Verb" definition?

MW:

2: a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles; also : a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm

Edited July 25, 2012 by Lukio

[Hetstaine 10852]

This thread shows why you dont see the tldr and dont give a fuck attitude people in serious flight simulation or on flight sim forums.. most get eaten alive because of their lack of knowledge and lack of ability to want to aqquire new knowledge, their simple dont give a fuckness and inability to engage in a discussion debate is rather amusing :)

tldr..see you packing shelves at coles.

[Grimlok (DayZ) 134]

Clip or Mag, its all referring to the same thing. If you want to have a fit over it, be my guest. It wont stop people from saying clip/mag. So....why bother?

[ponc 100]

I call the ones "Gumpydumpys" and the others "Honeyplungus".

Also, I wouldn't say "M1 Garand".

It's " Galligalli puckywucky".

Just for your information and education.

Meet me out in the woods.

[ToasterDiagramm 62]

Just: Thank you!

[Hetstaine 10852]

So for my sanity and to hopfully educate some people that may actually care what the hell they are talking about, here is a quick primer on clips vs mags.

Clip or Mag, its all referring to the same thing. If you want to have a fit over it, be my guest. It wont stop people from saying clip/mag. So....why bother?

refer bold text :) Some people actually have an interest , some do not.No biggie. It is definitely a far more interesting and informative post than OMG i lost my gear..hackers are wrecking my life..NO GUN WHAT DO I DO 1!!?? ..Fucking pvp lame game im leaving..This game sux and will be dead in three dayz..Warz is the winnerz ,, etfuckingcetera.

He is also trying to save his sanity, we all know that is beyond saving in this day and age..but hey..you got to give him props for trying :)

[mrcrackerhd 7]

Being a firearm enthusiast in real life, I often cring when reading some of the storys on these boards. "I only had 2 clips left for my AK", "The firehouse only had tin cans and 1 clip for my pistol"... So for my sanity and to hopfully educate some people that may actually care what the hell they are talking about, here is a quick primer on clips vs mags.

A magazine is used to feed a weapon itself whereas a clip is used to feed a magazine. Clips do make loading of magazines easier and faster. There are even cases that a clip is required in order for a magazine to work (hello M1 Garand). Some magazines are removable, some are a fixed magazine.

Thank you for reading. Please apply this new found information when speaking about ammo!

Peace, love and puppies,

Ods

you reminded me of those nerds that screamed "POKEMON!" when someone said pokeMAN lmao.

[thisisbleep 32]

This has been brought up before, the last person even included definition of bullets vs. rounds.

95% or more people have no military training, so it is not going to change any time soon. Yes we all have something which we can't stand to hear, because you know better, but you just have to ignore it.

[green-K- 101]

Good that I avoid this problem, me and my mates call it just ammo (or "Muni" in german)

[Talon2000uk 30]

Yes, words are just words. Variables we use to communicate between ourselves and within our communities. Yes, it doesn't matter what those words are. But, when we settle on one...and settle on it's meaning...it is not elitest to insist upon it's continued use in order to further efficient communication.

Sure, once society has evolved into calling magazines hamsters, we will all do so gladly, but in the interim, if you get shot in the face because you are fucking confusing the people around you because try as they might...then can not give you two hamsters for your AKM, you'll only have yourself to blame.

I for one, elitest or not, will continue to call magazines magazines and clips clips. I will ask those around me in game, and in real life to give me a MAGazine for my M-14 and CLIP for my Enfield. That way no one is confused, I am not fusing over loose hamsters and I keep my face away from the projectiles stored in their magazines or clips.

Out.

And if your friend offers you a Clip, you be sure to refuse it mate. :D

[dallas 5195]

I know the difference and I only cringe, when people, who should know better, confuses the two.

When Kurt Russel tells Sylvester Stalone to "pass me a clip," I'm perfectly relaxed. They are actors in a movie and in a few movies, the grips even manages to switch the hero's gun with the villans and them being actors, they can't even tell a revolver from an automatic. They are only focused on saying their lines wiht intensity and as if they really mean it, when they say: "I'm out, pass me a clip!"

Had the honor of shooting a Garand for six months in 93.