Make it harder, less loot

[blaf 63]

Dont forget that even guy with thermal M107 can be pretty easily chopped with hatched...

[Sarissofoi 40]

I agree with OP.

Seriously how many antitank rifles are in the some eastern country compared to normal sniper/scoped rifles?

It is too easy to find it and too easy to duplicate it.

Also they have all advantages over normal scoped/sniper weapons.

I mean they are accurate and powerful but also fucking heavy and big.

But not in the game - you can carry them easily and even fit in backpack.

Also they don't really fit a zombie theme game. Unless you wanna see powerful mutants and uber zombies in game.

Now its to easy to get one if you know where you look.

I am all for more variety of weapons and making better weapons rarer and with limited ammo.

Now you can find good equipment in half hour - just raid few deer stand and you are set.

What I propose is change to loot system:

1. apartment/office/residential brick houses should have common find and more variety of pistols (including M9 and G17 plus more ) (they are main selfdefence citizen weapon) and rare find shotguns(with greater variety)

- pistols are just more common weapon for citizen than a shotguns or rifles(especially in city)

2. wooden houses should have better chance for shotguns and low chance for hunting rifles(scoped and unscoped) low chance for pistols

- longer firearms are more common in countryside

3. deer stand should have more variety of shotguns and hunting rifles(scoped and unsoped) but there shouldn't be pistols and military grade weapons

-this is eastern Europe guys

4. Town hall fire(police) stations, train stations, air towers and some industrial buildings(these with low chance) should spawn pistols submachine guns and shotguns

-fire(police) stations should have better spawn rates and some(very low) chance for sniper weapons

-to simulate police/paramilitary industry/train guards/private security weaponry and equipment

5. military tents should spawn eastern(soviet/Russian) weapons and ammunitions

6. military barracks should spawn western weapons and ammunitions

7. crashed choppers should spawn mostly silenced weapons and ammo and some snipers

8. add some other random events like destroyed checkpoint/abandoned military tents/crashed military/police vehicle with chances for spawn some military weapons and ammo

9.remove anti material rifle

10. Add more zombies in big cities military camps and airfields(bigger density of population and evacuation points)

11. make military zombies more resistant to damage

With this (and with ammo fix) people will be forced to get their ammo and military weapons from heavy infested military camps/airfields. it will promote teamwork and make resupply harder. Military grade weapons become less common(if they fix cloning items).

Now its to easy to get end game weapons. Make supplies and ammo scarce. It will make experience game more fun.

[kovalhuk 19]

Dont forget that even guy with thermal M107 can be pretty easily chopped with hatched...

Unlikely but true.

[UndoCTRLz 1]

>.< No one plays on night servers without NVG? And where did this information come from... i play on our server regardless of night and in fact (for me and my friends) its even EASIER than day because less people are on the server so you don't have to be looking around so damn much for other players - Sure 1.7.2 with the super vision zombies have made nighttime much harder for starting but in 1.7.1.5 it was so easy to get around at night because of the added flashlight to your starter items, Stop sprouting garbage and play the damn game

Edited July 11, 2012 by UndoCTRLz

[DoshDosh 62]

Agreed so hard, I would love this, and I don't even have anything against the current "top tier equipment". There's just something more desperate about it when you have less firearms that make the game so much easier. I'd like to think it might be something like this:

Starting weapons:

Crowbar, Hatchet, Makarov, Lee-Enfield, double barrel

Mid weapons:

M1911, Revolver, Crossbow (silence can be considered a "sidegrade" here)

End weapons:

Winchester, CZ550, Glock/M9 (low noise as "sidegrades")

Of course that's just my own wishful thinking. I'd also love it if ammo in general was made more scarce, so the best-geared player has trouble maintaining more than 3 or 4 mags/clips/etc.

[Bental 10]

Sarissofoi:

Your ideas are decent, but I disagree with OP. Removing those things won't make the game better, it will work against. I agree with removing the anti-tank rifle, though let's be honest, they probably would pop up in the military bases. I don't fully remember, but quite sure that the Soviets were into big guns...

I like any scoped rifles to be rare. Currently, using a Winchester it's easy to drop Zs out to 200-300m if you have patience (and a lot of slugs lol).

Summary: Remove nightvision, more people will play night and not flock to the dayservers.

Bring more crude weapons to the game, skip the superweapons and make the AK's and m16/m4's much harder to find.

Actually make everything scarce.

I don't play night because I like to see a few feet in front of me. I don't use flash lights because it's a big "I'M OVER HERE" beacon.

I disagree with the other 2 points outright.

Also, your idea of people banding together? Yes, it is a lovely idea. I'm currently in the process of getting backstabbed time and time again, trying to get some people to trust me, for no other reason than to tell myself it still happens. But people joining together to clear a densley infested area? Keep dreaming. Because they KNOW that with scarce weapons, someone is going to pop them in the back of the head when most of the Zs are dead.

[direwind 3]

easy fix!! night vision/thermal and the like need batteries to use! 4 military grade batteries for 20 mins of use!

[-MadTommy 367]

They're found at helicopter crash sights and decent loot spots e.g. NW Airfield. They are around, you just have to stick your neck out in order to find and retrieve them.

Honestly I think some of the suggestions would turn the game into Disney Land.

Yeah i know where they come from...and how hard they are to find.

But snipping people from 1200m with a 50cal does not make it hardcore.. killing someone with iron sights makes it hardcore.. 1200m 50cal is far more like disney land than pistols, iron sights etc.

I just think the game would be more fun if the 50cal rifles & nvg & thermal sights were removed... there is still room for specialised high performance weapons.

[Silent_Scone 2]

I just think the game would be more fun for me and my playing style if the 50cal rifles &amp; nvg &amp; thermal sights were removed... there is still room for specialised high performance weapons.

EFA

Limiting use of NV will make people use it more sparingly. The only thing I do agree with is possibly making higher grade weapons only spawn at helicopter crash sites and the airfields.

Scoped weapons will never be removed from a game where you're playing on a 225km square map, it's just stupid. Even on a full server I rarely get shot at. You have to be in the most blindingly obvious place for a bandit to try and take a shot at you from 300m plus.

It's all part of the experience as they say lol.

The CZ would spawn in barns as it can happily be classed as a hunting rifle. Really don't understand why people are against scoped weapons.

Edited July 11, 2012 by Silent_Scone

[Bental 10]

It's a cheap kill.

Most people against them are probably recent / serial victims.

[tbotus 4]

When I can no longer buy a variety of nightvision goggles from Amazon.com, I will agree they should be removed from a game.

Seems to me, we'd have more civilians with NVGs, not fewer. The thing that could be added would be lack of a headset (requires use like a binocular) and limited use of batteries. Many NVGs last about 15 hours according to their specs.

To be fair though, not once have I died to someone with NVGs at night. Though I did get hit by a truck. That sucked. Nerf trucks.

Oh, and any asshat with a makarov can kill a guy with an M16 or sniper rifle. Headshot and they win. In a game where the average lifespan is 35 minutes, item rarity is moot. You're gonna lose it eventually anyways.

[evolution (DayZ) 51]

I dont agree with the removal of the more power weapons in the game. I do however agree that they should be made very rare. Additional weapons added to the game (such as the crude weapons) would be a good change.

[Shellamala 6]

Don't agree at all. Night vision is far from common and it adds an extra dimension and player type to the game. If you think there wouldn't be merc types in an actual zombie apocalypse you're a bit special.Worst "I got killed by someone with a rifle and night vision" thread ever.

I do agree that there should be more melee and conventional weapons. Possibly factor in a power usage on night vision equipment so that it can only be used for a certain period of time before either becoming extinguished or needing recharging.

Also weapon jams, even on higher class weapons.

Well I've never been killed by a fella with NVG's infact I own a pair myself.

[Shellamala 6]

somone give this guy a cyote pack, m107, nvgs, gps, a nice silenced sidearm or a bizon in the pack and see if he still wants to remove them

I have all these already mate, infact I got every superweapon in the game and the best backpack!

Edit: not to brag or anything, promise.

Edited July 11, 2012 by Shellamala

[Shellamala 6]

Don't understand the logic from wanting sniper rifles gone. In the event of an actual-RL-outbreak. What are you going to do? Fetch a megaphone and ask everyone to take their scopes off because you're scared of getting shot?

I said the mini cannons, not removing sniperrifles. DMR, SVD CZ are fine.

[Shellamala 6]

easy fix!! night vision/thermal and the like need batteries to use! 4 military grade batteries for 20 mins of use!

Neat idea if they dont want to remove them! like!

[Shellamala 6]

It's a cheap kill.

Most people against them are probably recent / serial victims.

Im usually the guy who's doing all the killing, and im sick of it.

[Shellamala 6]

When I can no longer buy a variety of nightvision goggles from Amazon.com, I will agree they should be removed from a game.

Seems to me, we'd have more civilians with NVGs, not fewer. The thing that could be added would be lack of a headset (requires use like a binocular) and limited use of batteries. Many NVGs last about 15 hours according to their specs.

To be fair though, not once have I died to someone with NVGs at night. Though I did get hit by a truck. That sucked. Nerf trucks.

Oh, and any asshat with a makarov can kill a guy with an M16 or sniper rifle. Headshot and they win. In a game where the average lifespan is 35 minutes, item rarity is moot. You're gonna lose it eventually anyways.

Yeah but im talking more about the feeling than the weapons power and uses.

[chrismgtis 55]

Boohoo. Sorry, but Rocket isn't about catering to care bears. Move along.

[Silent_Scone 2]

Face palm.

So you're moaning about the 'mini canons' yet you're apparently doing all the killing? So if you could get away with shooting folk in real life in that way, you'd do it? Then what, ask for it to be made illegal? LOL

Can you see what I'm saying. It's just daft. The game needs people like you to add to the tension, if you don't want to be a bushwhacker then don't be!

Edited July 11, 2012 by Silent_Scone

[Shellamala 6]

I dont agree with the removal of the more power weapons in the game. I do however agree that they should be made very rare. Additional weapons added to the game (such as the crude weapons) would be a good change.

Hello, yeah this could also be a solution!

[terrvik 2409]

Boohoo. Sorry, but Rocket isn't about catering to care bears. Move along.

How is lowering the quality of guns and making them harder to find "catering to carebears"? Of all things it makes the game more challenging and harder for "carebears". And stop using that term. It takes me ONE TO TWO HOURS to find decent gear (ALICE, DMR, most of the tools and so on) and that is no fun. What is now middle tier gear should be OMG-gear. And what is now good gear should be overkillgear.

[Shellamala 6]

Boohoo. Sorry, but Rocket isn't about catering to care bears. Move along.

It was a suggestion in making the game more harder and challenging and thats a carebare's way of thoughts? When I usually ask my mates what we are going to do ingame it should be "finding food to survive" not "lets go kill some guys at the airports since we have nothing else to strive for" im sick of it, last three days we found 13 cars, and 2 trucks FULL of end game loot when we already had all the good stuff. So our group have each 3 nvg's and we are about 8 guys with the best equipment.

[Shellamala 6]

How is lowering the quality of guns and making them harder to find "catering to carebears"? Of all things it makes the game more challenging and harder for "carebears". And stop using that term. It takes me ONE TO TWO HOURS to find decent gear (ALICE, DMR, most of the tools and so on) and that is no fun. What is now middle tier gear should be OMG-gear. And what is now good gear should be overkillgear.

Thanks mate, like!

[dallas 5195]

I'd like to clean the character server of all NVG/AWS untill duping is solved.

I'd also like to see crashsite loot reduced a tier. 3 sites, 3 loot piles, 4 restarts a day. Too much hi-fi loot.

I'd like to see deer stands bumped down a tier, to contain low tier hunting rifles and alice packs.

Low military tier at firestations, military camps, crashsites and high tier for baracks only.