Opinions on new loot changes

[yaryardank1 2]

I recently watched WOBO's new video on the current loot changes. And boy do I hate them. Like SERIOUSLY, what is the point of completely removing guns from maps. It's now impossible to find Tundra, AKS-74U, AK-74, and VSS on livonia. ASVAL removed from CHERN! WHAT IS THE POINT??!! This does nothing good for immersion. I DON'T WANT TO BUY MAPS LIKE LIVONIA AND SAKHAL WHEN IT'S NOW GOING TO BE IMPOSSIBLE TO GET CERTAIN WEAPONS THAT ARE VERY USEFUL TO HAVE ESPECIALLY SINCE PEOPLE LOG OUT IN BUNKER AND FARM IT!!! I don't understand why the community isn't more livid. opinions?

[boggle 53]

I think it's stupid bc it just encourages people to server hop between maps which in itself is not realistic imo

I think it's just a way to force people to buy their maps. 

[Pyongo Bongo 242]

On 12/13/2024 at 7:58 PM, yaryardank1 said:

I don't understand why the community isn't more livid. opinions?

I think being constructive is geat 🙂

The developers get a mountain of "lividness" for anything and everything, that may motivate them, but is more likely to demotivate them.

I think it's best to think of how our problem can be fixed and to try to present that to the devs, here or on the feedback tracker or youtube. Or you can write a letter xD

I don't like the new (and old) loot restrictions either.

They do add a little bit more character to the setting of each map and we still have a fun variety of guns and clothes to use, (here comes the constructivity:) I think it would be an improvement if instead of hard restrictions, we had... ok I'll just copy and paste my text from another post, it's too time consuming to write this out every time:

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I think it would be cool to have a small chance on all maps to spawn unusual items. Is winter hunter gear deleted from chernarus? What if I want to dress up as a white wolfman? The deleted / not fitting the setting items should be put in a special rarity loot pool. I'd add a small chance for those items, or even any item in the game to spawn anywhere. Like a shiny pokemon. Aks 74u and Bison used to have a chance to spawn on the coast. It didn't cause coastal mayhem because it was so extremely rare. I still remember the one awesome time I found a damaged AKS in a container in Elektro, with 3 bullets which I had to choose how I could best use them.

What sounds more realistic and fun: You can never find any of these fun items at all here, and on maps which have them, they can only be found in the same specific pre determined locations every time. 

Or:  The map and it's locations have loot which fit their themes, but sometimes you'll make a surprising awesome find you didn't see coming.

 

Edited December 15, 2024 by Pyongo Bongo

[telita 4]

The loot change is there to promote new map. Plain simple

[JojimWizzer 0]

For me the loot change it is something that should be change

[KA-74USER 42]

i just cant understand the mentality behind it

maybe to declutter the loot pool, but i think it would just be better if certain guns and mags spawned together in locations, like knowing m16/ stanag mags spawned in zeleno and ak stuffs spawned at tisy. 

more location specific loot might help with the cluttred loot pool more than just straight up removing entire guns and mags from the pool

[boggle 53]

All I can say is thank God for modded servers. If it wasn't for modded servers to undo many of the abhorrent changes the devs have made over the years; this gave would have died long ago. 

[etwas 140]

15 minutes ago, boggle said:

All I can say is thank God for modded servers. If it wasn't for modded servers to undo many of the abhorrent changes the devs have made over the years; this gave would have died long ago. 

actually u have to thank bohemia for that, as they are the ones that provide the modding support, its tools and provide updates with every patch. unless bohemia is your god?

[Parazight 1599]

So your all caps argument is that we need to have all the guns on all of the vanilla maps because of immersion.   Somehow you think this makes sense and everyone else also feels this way.

Maybe you should drop that dumb console and graduate to a PC.   

[yaryardank1 2]

21 hours ago, Parazight said:

So your all caps argument is that we need to have all the guns on all of the vanilla maps because of immersion.   Somehow you think this makes sense and everyone else also feels this way.

Maybe you should drop that dumb console and graduate to a PC.   

Not what I’m saying at all……… what I am saying is that getting rid of weapons does nothing for immersion. It just makes the game less enjoyable since console players don’t have as much content to begin with, but especially for all vanilla players. And no I’m not going to be buying a multi thousand dollar PC to play DayZ, thanks tho…

[Riddick_2K 174]

On 12/25/2024 at 12:31 PM, etwas said:

actually u have to thank bohemia for that, as they are the ones that provide the modding support, its tools and provide updates with every patch. unless bohemia is your god?

The same Bohemia that often messes up the game with its patches? The same one that doesn't always help and respond to modders' appeals (follow the feedback site)? The same one that has a game that still needs to be fixed as if it were perpetually in "beta test" after more than 10 years?
Anyway, it's obvious that Bohemia allows modding, they certainly don't want their game to become extinct. They should do it better, though... from what I read (sometimes) on the feedback site.
And personally, as a server manager (more than a player) I'm tired of every 2x3 patch that mess up the whole game, the settings and, often, even the mods... and having to fix everything every time... the first few times you do it on the wave of enthusiasm of managing your modified server as you wanted... then, patch after patch, you get tired of fixing everything... and still seeing the game as it was before (or, often, worse than before)... because in 4 years of "server manager" I've seen very few real and useful changes. Many changes that have worsened the game, instead, continuously... or fundamentally useless or that "messed up" the mods (those yes, really useful)
But this is also a problem due to Steam that forces the update: this should NOT be the case.
A server manager and his frequenters should be able to choose which version of the game to play, including the mods. As it used to be. They were distributed standalone, you didn't have to download them from Steam and, as soon as there was something new, you could choose IF you wanted to update or continue using the current version. This is a serious and civil behavior that allowed everyone to continue playing peacefully for months and years...
I've been dealing with IT since the early 90s (with DOS 3.3) and if there's one thing I've learned well it's that: a winning team doesn't change.
The forced and automatic update is the biggest bullshit and meanness imposed ever. I'm surprised that there aren't "revolutions and strikes" of users to change this... too many, now, take this behavior for granted... it's like the story of the lobster in boiling water... slowly, slowly... that you don't even notice, until you're too weak to escape and you get boiled.

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[Riddick_2K 174]

I didn't insert any link and no "insult" to anyone... I just don't understand the "hidden" post... 😐

Edited December 28, 2024 by Riddick_2K

[OrLoK 16187]

its the overzealous anti spam measure which, as you know, still lets spam through occasionally!

[KA-74USER 42]

On 12/27/2024 at 9:22 AM, Parazight said:

So your all caps argument is that we need to have all the guns on all of the vanilla maps because of immersion.   Somehow you think this makes sense and everyone else also feels this way.

Maybe you should drop that dumb console and graduate to a PC.   

i moved from console to PC to console again because of the hackers on official and i did not like modded servers