New update broken? I'll try to be constructive

[JPWiser 251]

Completely agree. 

 

Im sure the loot spawns are going to be tweaked in time to make much more sense.

 

The only thing I dont agree with is people complaining about the zombies.

 

One person said they see you from a mile away which is definitely not true this patch really made leaps and bounds with zombie detection imo.

 

Im also pretty sure they dont want you to melee zombies easily ever.  Which I am okay with.  Their stamina is so low just run around the block and you lose them easy peezy.

 

Just need to fix their audio now.

 

Cannot wait for .56

 

I think this has been my most anticipated patch ever as I find this build not fun at all.

[JPWiser 251]

I disagree with most of your premises but I appreciate the way you write it, so beans!

 

I do however agree that being able to roast things on a sharpened stick really needs to be implemented.

 

For melee, I suggest aiming for the head. Going to 1pp during a fight makes this far easier. They really don't live long when smacked in the head with basically anything.

 

For food, you're just not getting many calories out of apples, they're great for hydration though. Eating 3 or 4 berries will lift you a level of hunger typically. Were you cold during all this? That rate of calorie loss I've only experienced while hypothermic and sprinting.

 

Confused at what you disagree with.

 

I searched for berries for about 10 minutes in a couple different bushes, found one.  The amount of time it took me to find one wasted more of my energy than the berry gave me not sure where the sense in that is considering as a fresh spawn you have 20-30ish minutes probably tops before you pass out.

 

Sprinting effects hunger now?  Didnt think they had tied that together yet.

 

The melee system is still pretty poor no matter how you look at it, not sure how you can disagree with that.  From the way the weapons are held and swung to the different effects that each one have.  You disagree that smashing a fleshy body 10 times with a machette shouldnt have more of an effect than it currently does?

 

And the food and hydration system is clearly unbalanced at the moment and continues to need work, its really difficult to find some good "caloric" foods, thats what hes saying.  He wants it to be difficult like it is now, but once you find some of said foods it should have a much greater impact on your energy and hydration levels, thus adding some reward to finally finding that can of beans cause now you can go do something else instead of having to continue to search another 50 houses to find the next can before you die, not sure how you can disagree with that either.

 

Just curious as to what you meant exactly.

[E.J. 16]

 

Im also pretty sure they dont want you to melee zombies easily ever.  Which I am okay with.  Their stamina is so low just run around the block and you lose them easy peezy.

 

Why? When the guns and ammo are balanced out. The combat focus whether it be human or zed is gonna be melee. Where is the dodging, parrying, and blocking? An encounter with a single Z should only be deadly if you are injured, sick, or otherwise. Every single zed melee engagement shouldnt end with you bloody and you sh!t ruined.

 

I envision a decent melee player being able to take on 2 zeds max with good equipment and the combat balance features without paying too much. 3 plus and its time to run.

 

Just need to fix their audio now.

 

Cannot wait for .56

 

Definitely agree

Edited April 6, 2015 by E.J.

[ebrim 998]

Confused at what you disagree with.

 

I searched for berries for about 10 minutes in a couple different bushes, found one.  The amount of time it took me to find one wasted more of my energy than the berry gave me not sure where the sense in that is considering as a fresh spawn you have 20-30ish minutes probably tops before you pass out.

 

Sprinting effects hunger now?  Didnt think they had tied that together yet.

 

The melee system is still pretty poor no matter how you look at it, not sure how you can disagree with that.  From the way the weapons are held and swung to the different effects that each one have.  You disagree that smashing a fleshy body 10 times with a machette shouldnt have more of an effect than it currently does?

 

And the food and hydration system is clearly unbalanced at the moment and continues to need work, its really difficult to find some good "caloric" foods, thats what hes saying.  He wants it to be difficult like it is now, but once you find some of said foods it should have a much greater impact on your energy and hydration levels, thus adding some reward to finally finding that can of beans cause now you can go do something else instead of having to continue to search another 50 houses to find the next can before you die, not sure how you can disagree with that either.

 

Just curious as to what you meant exactly.

 

It sounds like you had some really bad luck with the berries, tragically so. I seem to be able to survive the opening stages of the game and I'm in no way special or talented so I'm assuming you can as well. A mix of berries and apples will get you a long way and it shouldn't take terribly long.

 

Melee really isn't that bad. Sure, maybe smacking someone in the body with a machete ten times should have pretty nasty effect but the fact remains that aiming for the head in 1pp will get you good results.

 

I can't confirm or deny that sprinting is related to increased caloric loss, only moving vs non-moving but I consider it a bad habit which may indicate other bad habits.

 

Finally, the metabolic rate seems pretty good to me, or else once you get established later in a character's life you'd never have to consider getting food. Seriously, once you're fully energized, it lasts for ages. If you start in the rain and get cold, the game gets harsh, very fast. I don't deny that.

Edited April 6, 2015 by Ebrim

[soulfirez 901]

I dont understand why people are struggling so much?? I have killed myself in 1pp and 3pp to test from new character, i have stayed on the coast to make it worse for myself. Still i find enough food to survive , sure it takes me alot longer to get to light green healthy energized etc but i get there without needing any natural (grown hunted) food.

 

Sure i dont have food i am leaving behind like i use to but then i shouldnt be able to .. Look in cars , every car, they have been a large source of canned food and soft drinks......

 

Zeds are very VERY easy just use stealth and your brain crouch move through town , watch for zeds , move when they are not looking in your direction. As for melee them well yeah your going to get hit but do it in 1pp ( i am a 1pp player) aim for the fucking head, i down zeds in 2 hits with me getting hit 1 time, so again i stealth past unless i need them dead..

 

I dont get this community with the oh i am hardcore i play dayz and straight bandit killer mofo ya da ya da moment they turn up the difficulty a little ( and i imagine its going to get harder) the fucking tears start flowing, what happened to being mr bad ass pvp king?? Yes you can still PvP to (i am not a big KoS kinda guy but to test the my PvP is gone wahhhwaaahhh) shoot at players on the outside of town or shut doors to a building and shoot from a window this draws zeds which in many cases will chase who you have been shooting at when they cant get to you...

 

Are there a couple small things broken with this patch?? Yes there is but over all it is by FAR THE BEST PATCH yet . Survival game and wow now your actually having to slow down and think about surviving oh wow those evil devs making the focus survival in a survival game , who would have thought it aye.

Edited April 6, 2015 by SoulFirez

[Vattenlarv 81]

I dont understand why people are struggling so much?? I have killed myself in 1pp and 3pp to test from new character, i have stayed on the coast to make it worse for myself. Still i find enough food to survive , sure it takes me alot longer to get to light green healthy energized etc but i get there without needing any natural (grown hunted) food.

 

Sure i dont have food i am leaving behind like i use to but then i shouldnt be able to .. Look in cars , every car, they have been a large source of canned food and soft drinks......

 

Zeds are very VERY easy just use stealth and your brain crouch move through town , watch for zeds , move when they are not looking in your direction. As for melee them well yeah your going to get hit but do it in 1pp ( i am a 1pp player) aim for the fucking head, i down zeds in 2 hits with me getting hit 1 time, so again i stealth past unless i need them dead..

 

I dont get this community with the oh i am hardcore i play dayz and straight bandit killer mofo ya da ya da moment they turn up the difficulty a little ( and i imagine its going to get harder) the fucking tears start flowing, what happened to being mr bad ass pvp king?? Yes you can still PvP to (i am not a big KoS kinda guy but to test the my PvP is gone wahhhwaaahhh) shoot at players on the outside of town or shut doors to a building and shoot from a window this draws zeds which in many cases will chase who you have been shooting at when they cant get to you...

 

Are there a couple small things broken with this patch?? Yes there is but over all it is by FAR THE BEST PATCH yet . Survival game and wow now your actually having to slow down and think about surviving oh wow those evil devs making the focus survival in a survival game , who would have thought it aye.

 

Did you only read the topic before posting your comment? No one here is whining and crying about the game making it more challenging to reach an actual PvP level of gear and health. The only one whining and crying here is you. Please post these "I'm such a bad ass virtual apocalypse survivor, women throw their panties at me in real life"-comments elsewhere.

[soulfirez 901]

Did you only read the topic before posting your comment? No one here is whining and crying about the game making it more challenging to reach an actual PvP level of gear and health. The only one whining and crying here is you. Please post these "I'm such a bad ass virtual apocalypse survivor, women throw their panties at me in real life"-comments elsewhere.

No i am just sick of the crying threads and thats what they are... But good try . I am not bad ass and thats the point i am still finding it VERY EASY ,and i dont think i am bad ass.

PS no women are throwing there panties at me , my wife wouldnt like it.

 

Your attempt at being constructive you failed to look at your play methods and be constructive if you were playing in an optimal fashion or if you were just doing what you did last patch and getting the same results.

 

I am pretty sure if you spent as much time adapting to the changes as you did trying to make constructive your crying, you would find its still pretty damn easy.

 

So the answer to the thread is no patch .55 isnt broken small parts of it are but the mentality of many people playing it maybe??(although yes persistence is still way of wack but there is few people crying about that and alot more saying no food no loot im leaving till they fix zeds.)

Edited April 6, 2015 by SoulFirez

[Vattenlarv 81]

Both of those, stone and flint, road flares, and gun powder...

 

I'd be cool with all of these being rarities, but cumulatively considered, you should be able to find at least one of these methods during a single play session.

 

Without getting into suggestion territory too much, you could find flint by searching quarries, and the volatility of gunpowder would make that method more dangerous.

 

Oh, I totally forgot. When I was about to starve in my last session, I had two cans of bacon in my backpack but nothing to open them with. In desperation I ran to the cut end of a crash barrier and tried to smash the cans open against the sharp edge... do I need to tell you the cans stayed sealed and my belly stayed empty?

[Vattenlarv 81]

No i am just sick of the crying threads and thats what they are... But good try . I am not bad ass and thats the point i am still finding it VERY EASY ,and i dont think i am bad ass.

PS no women are throwing there panties at me , my wife wouldnt like it.

 

Your attempt at being constructive you failed to look at your play methods and be constructive if you were playing in an optimal fashion or if you were just doing what you did last patch and getting the same results.

 

I am pretty sure if you spent as much time adapting to the changes as you did trying to make constructive your crying, you would find its still pretty damn easy.

 

So the answer to the thread is no patch .55 isnt broken small parts of it are but the mentality of many people playing it maybe??(although yes persistence is still way of wack but there is few people crying about that and alot more saying no food no loot im leaving till they fix zeds.)

 

I still haven't cried once. I have shared my opinion on the current DayZ nutrition equation (or whatever a game dev would call the balance between what you eat and how that effects your hunger and health) and what I think about the items used as melee weapons contra my experience using the same items in real life.

 

Quote me crying once in this thread, without taking sentences out of context, and I'll both applaud you and call you sir for the rest of my days spent on this forum.

If you can't do that, please stop whining about a quarrel that is non-existing in this specific thread.

Edited April 6, 2015 by Vattenlarv

[Vattenlarv 81]

As for a HUGE VIRTUAL WORLD do you mean Cherno ? :)  Because i don't know many that leave that horrid coast. If you ever leave that insane/why is it even there/rediculous/look i can see my hands/COD/Let me look at gloves all day 1st person server let me know. I can use someone to dig farm plots for me. I'll be on the 3rd pp only server :)  I tease with Love ...

 

The self-obsession of people these days... like if facebook wasn't enough. Now "selfies" are taking over in DayZ too!? Also teasing with love, haha.

[soulfirez 901]

 

I still haven't cried once. I have shared my opinion on the current DayZ nutrition equation (or whatever a game dev would call the balance between what you eat and how that effects your hunger and health) and what I think about the items used as melee weapons contra my experience using the same items in real life.

 

Quote me crying once in this thread, without taking sentences out of context, and I'll both applaud you and call you sir for the rest of my days spent on this forum.

If you can't do that, please stop whining about a quarrel that is non-existing in this specific thread.

 

Ill do that the moment you show me where i am crying as you said i was crying first ( when infact is was a pull ya socks up bitches) If you look at my initial post its not even aimed at you (if it was i would have quoted you ) it was aimed at the many others who have to come to cry on each others shoulders about mean devs doing exactly what they listed in the road map.

 

Whining is what your doing with your sharing your opinions on melee weapons contra your experience in real life. I didnt realize you had experience trying to bash the skull in of people infected with a rage style virus?? please do share how effective you were.

I can share how in my time in the army in the 90s , how i have seen melee weapons not kill people in single strikes specially when they havent hit in a vital area (and thats  normal people just running on adrenaline not  completely devoid of human emotion and with pain receptors being blocked by an infection. How while working as a prison officer saw a life prisoner take 2 shots from an axe and a star picket to the back and still beat the 2 guys attacking him.(granted he spent the next 6 months in the infirmary to recover from his wounds) A man stabbed 11 times (over an extra egg by the way ) who beat his attacker by biting his nose off and then beating his skull against the ground.

 

Have you been hiting these zeds in the head in game ?? be honest now because i have taken no more than 3 shots to kill a zed on patch .55 and i cant b e sure they were all head shots (infact the final shot may have been the only direct head shot

[CJFlint 357]

Well I must say Im optimistic with the new patch and the way things are going. .55 revised my interest in DayZ SA. Its challenging again, and Im finding my self having to really think about what Im doing in game. Its harder to survive, zombies are tougher, but there not broken. Theres real mechanics now implace for them, you have to sneak and use tactics to counter them just like other players. Funny thing was in my short time playing the few players I encountered I was less concerned with them the zombies.....as crazy as that sounds. Thats really cool. I like the loot count. It forces players to really consider what there doing and form a game plan. What I would like to see is more survival mechanics and craftable items. Example alt methods of starting fires then just matches, easier ways to tan leather out side of having to carry a bag of lime. More options for surviving off the land, not nec easier ones just more. Im sure its all in the works. We just have to wait.

 

On the down side I lost alot of items thinking persist works. I mean a ghillie suit, and top. It took me a long while to get all the items I needed to craft all that in .54. So just based on that I would be really careful with what you store. Thats def not working on every server and its a crap shoot.

 

Right now the game I think is going in that right direction, but there are things about that are not done yet. I think DayZ Sa will be good and the game we want, but theres going to be growing pains that will test our patience. I def saw that today. Its def not prefect yet, it will get there I think. No one says you have to play or play in smaller doses til the game is running smooth enough to your liking. The growing pains (crude mechanics and bugs) can be alittle more then your avarage gamer on steam to deal with. To me that should be understandable. I think its the pros and cons of early access, I have mixed thoughts about it for sure. Cool and some ways crappy in others.

Edited April 6, 2015 by CJFlint

[gibonez 3633]

I hope they go forth with their old idea of the more populated the server the higher your chances of finding loot are.

 

This way even with the more restrictive central loot system joining empty servers to gear up is not rewarded.

[Vattenlarv 81]

Ill do that the moment you show me where i am crying as you said i was crying first ( when infact is was a pull ya socks up bitches) If you look at my initial post its not even aimed at you (if it was i would have quoted you ) it was aimed at the many others who have to come to cry on each others shoulders about mean devs doing exactly what they listed in the road map.

 

Whining is what your doing with your sharing your opinions on melee weapons contra your experience in real life. I didnt realize you had experience trying to bash the skull in of people infected with a rage style virus?? please do share how effective you were.

I can share how in my time in the army in the 90s , how i have seen melee weapons not kill people in single strikes specially when they havent hit in a vital area (and thats  normal people just running on adrenaline not  completely devoid of human emotion and with pain receptors being blocked by an infection. How while working as a prison officer saw a life prisoner take 2 shots from an axe and a star picket to the back and still beat the 2 guys attacking him.(granted he spent the next 6 months in the infirmary to recover from his wounds) A man stabbed 11 times (over an extra egg by the way ) who beat his attacker by biting his nose off and then beating his skull against the ground.

 

Have you been hiting these zeds in the head in game ?? be honest now because i have taken no more than 3 shots to kill a zed on patch .55 and i cant b e sure they were all head shots (infact the final shot may have been the only direct head shot

 

In my initial post I wrote "all of these items could kill pretty much anyone or anything in a single strike". Am I wrong? Sometimes I do get lucky and one-hit-kill zombies and I have not said that it is impossible. Following that statement I comment on the fact that you can hit a zombie 10 times with a machete without it even slowing down or showing any signs of being physically injured. Are you saying there is no logic in that argument? Oh, I forgot... I'm whining, right? Why are you looking for a "fight" where no one is opposing your own experience with various weapons / tools.

 

Nothing I've written is whining nor crying, it's something called sharing your opinions and having a discussion. If you do not approve of people sharing their opinions, and in a civilized manner discussing them with other people, then maybe you should move to Iran or something.

 

This is what initially ticked me off; "I dont get this community with the oh i am hardcore i play dayz and straight bandit killer mofo ya da ya da moment they turn up the difficulty a little ( and i imagine its going to get harder) the fucking tears start flowing, what happened to being mr bad ass pvp king??"

 

I'm seriously so fucking tired of people like you flooding every single game forum with your negativity. You can't even direct your negativity in directions that actually make sense or at forum users that are as negative as you are, and when you're caught making fools out of yourselves you desperately try to save face... which only result in all threads, no matter what the topic is, becoming so fucking tedious to read.

Edited April 6, 2015 by Vattenlarv

[soulfirez 901]

 

 

I'm seriously so fucking tired of people like you flooding every single game forum with your negativity. You can't even direct your negativity in directions that actually make sense or at forum users that are as negative as you are, and when you're caught making fools out of yourselves you desperately try to save face... which only results in all threads, no matter what the topic is, becoming so fucking tedious to read.

 

Thats strange thats pretty much exactly how i feel about all those that have been crying about the patch (and again i wasnt directing at you but to many others but you picked the fight).

 

Strange the negativity seems to be coming from you ?? i mean the premise of your thread is .55 broken? and your constructive reasons why you believe it is. Strange some people dont agree with you and you straight attack. So please stop pissing down my back and tell me its raining, your allowed to state why you think it is broken i can state why i believe its not.. If you come after my posts directly then expect me to respond. Thats how it works in real life.

 

Again can any of these melee weapons kill in 1 strike, yes many can if you know what your doing or your lucky in real life and in game they may be able to one shot to ( i just havent nailed it in 1 hit or maybe it doesnt do enough damage as i have always used 2 or 3 strokes, not 8 or more people are saying. Again these are rage infected people do you know how tough the human body is when you switch of its shock receptors ? They will fight like demons till they die from blood loss, again man stabbed 11 times fought and beat his attacker, and it took me 4 shots with a retractable rod to knock him out so i could save his attacker from death and himself from bleeding out......

 

As for my comment on the hardcore PvP people whats wrong with that ?? plenty of people spend plenty time in these forums stating the game is PvP but the moment they introduce survival elements many of them are the first to scream its a shit change (and the change doesnt stop PvP hell to me it makes it better because your heart is racing as you dont want to die because you KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO START OVER

[Vattenlarv 81]

Thats strange thats pretty much exactly how i feel about all those that have been crying about the patch (and again i wasnt directing at you but to many others but you picked the fight).

 

Strange the negativity seems to be coming from you ?? i mean the premise of your thread is .55 broken? and your constructive reasons why you believe it is. Strange some people dont agree with you and you straight attack. So please stop pissing down my back and tell me its raining, your allowed to state why you think it is broken i can state why i believe its not.. If you come after my posts directly then expect me to respond. Thats how it works in real life.

 

Again can any of these melee weapons kill in 1 strike, yes many can if you know what your doing or your lucky in real life and in game they may be able to one shot to ( i just havent nailed it in 1 hit or maybe it doesnt do enough damage as i have always used 2 or 3 strokes, not 8 or more people are saying. Again these are rage infected people do you know how tough the human body is when you switch of its shock receptors ? They will fight like demons till they die from blood loss, again man stabbed 11 times fought and beat his attacker, and it took me 4 shots with a retractable rod to knock him out so i could save his attacker from death and himself from bleeding out......

 

As for my comment on the hardcore PvP people whats wrong with that ?? plenty of people spend plenty time in these forums stating the game is PvP but the moment they introduce survival elements many of them are the first to scream its a shit change (and the change doesnt stop PvP hell to me it makes it better because your heart is racing as you dont want to die because you KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO START OVER

 

If you look at the conversation between me and Ebrim you can see no bloody hatchets are swung, simply because there's no finger-pointing or attempts to call out a crying whiner. It's as simple as that.

Our "discussion" is over.

[yazar8 584]

so true. I ate 5 potatoes, considering It's starchy and is carbonhydrate rich, I should have enough to last a day. But that's not the case.

[soulfirez 901]

If you look at the conversation between me and Ebrim you can see no bloody hatchets are swung, simply because there's no finger-pointing or attempts to call out a crying whiner. It's as simple as that.

Our "discussion" is over.

So no answering if your sure you have hit them in the head (eg vital area as it is a medical fact on the amount of punishment the human or any animals body can take in its fight for life)

 

Nothing really to support your assertions that the patch is indeed broken but just a your not a nice person i cant bully you into being quite so its over aye.

 

@yazar8

As for the amount of food we eat this has been covered before MANY times is it realistic NO, is it authentic that depends on your perspective.

 

You can go 2 weeks with no food ( depends heavily on conditions and your starting physical condition how active you are going to be etc etc) but it is done in a gamey method to make you focus on survival aspects because if it was real you would be focusing on getting food and trying to avoid zeds.

If you could go even days on a small amount of food(as you realisticly would) there would be no deaths from starvation it would all be gun shot wounds(or zed attacks and glitches bugs lol) and that in itself is not realistic ( we dont play realistic because its a GAME) so the effect in the end is actually authentic as death by disease /freezing / starvation & zed attack would most likely be more common than death crazed murderer shooting you because he can (and more power to that murderer as i feel they do add tension to the game even if its unlikely many if any people would act that way in the situation lol

[sachad 1016]

I'd love for hunger and nutrition to be separate values.